CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018

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  • #341
Totally agree with you here. The other thing is I think that it is unusual to text your job for that much time off. Especially someone who is an instructor and would have appointments with students to reschedule. You would definitely want to chat with your supervisor about that.

Texting is for something quick. Or if you don't want your voice heard...? Because you aren't who the phone belongs to.
Absolutely. That’s something that is done by phone call, not text.

I’m curious if there was a text chain, or if her employer simply received a text and no further responses from her when/if they inquired as to why she needed that much time off.
 
  • #342
Just starting to read into this case. Have they released how long the child was to be in Dad's custody?

If the relationship was strained, and he was to have the child for awhile, it would not be completely out of the ordinary for him to not report her missing.
However, if the child was to go back to Mom the next week, then it is a HUGE red flag that he didn't notify anyone.
 
  • #343
Handing a child off at Safeway, pretty much means too me you don’t want that person at your house. I would have to say that IMO the wedding was off.
 
  • #344
Unfortunately, things aren't looking good.

Police named her fiance but wouldn't label him as a suspect <modsnip>
 
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  • #345
Yeah I am confused by their relationship. He is still labeled as her Fiancee but they exchange custody of the child?
They exchanged custody on Thanksgiving day. That's a day most people would want to spend with their significant other, not go home to bake cinnamon rolls.
 
  • #346
Her mother must be scared to death not having her grandchild. We know the most likely suspect and outcome for Heather but damn, her baby is still here & needs to be protected.
Who is Heather?
 
  • #347
Wow. This is just odd. If he was her fiance this was an extremely odd relationship! I am wondering if perhaps they were no longer together at all and that simply wasn't shared with anyone. Though it is still not normal that he wouldn't raise an alarm not hearing from the mother of his BABY for 10 days. That's just unusual. Did he even attempt to contact her? I mean wow. I hope she took off on her own for some reason but it's not looking good.
 
  • #348
Unfortunately, things aren't looking good.

Police named her fiance but wouldn't label him as a suspect <modsnip>

No, he is off limits until he becomes a POI or suspect.
 
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  • #349
November 25 still jumps out to me. That's the date the mom requested LE to check on her daughter. That's the same date that the text to the employer is sent, and it's the same date her phone pings in Idaho.

I'd like to know the time of day of all those three events.

jmo

I *think* they said in the press conference that the mom reported her missing on December 2nd and that's when they did the welfare check, and found her not at home. The November 25th date - according to the press conference - is when mom texted 'fiancee' and was told he hadn't heard from her since Thanksgiving.

So mom checks in with fiancee, then the same day 'Kelsey' texts work, and the phone pings in Idaho.

<modsnip - not victim friendly>
 
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  • #350
Is the father of the child also Kelsey’s fiancé?
 
  • #351
Yes, that, and since there are actual custody exchanges of the child, I wouldn't label him as a fiance. I think this is a broken relationship for some time if there are actual exchanges of custody.

BBM - May be why her facebook is so locked down, just musings on my part.
 
  • #352
LE didn’t characterize Kelsey’s disappearance as being an abduction. But there was a pretty clear indication as to who they are looking closely at.

When asked why the fiancé didn’t report her missing, LE responded with something to the effect of “You’d have to ask him that.”

That is incredibly telling.
 
  • #353
The first year after having a baby is hard on a relationship. I would not be at all shocked if things were rocky or outright on and off. I remember that time after becoming a parent and it was incredibly stressful
 
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Did I hear wrong that it is the fiance's mother that lives in Idaho?
11/25 was an important day
Fiance last heard from her by text on 11/25
Employer was texted on 11/25
Ping in Idaho 11/25

Perhaps someone turned on her phone to text...

She could be anywhere from Idaho to Colorado and there's lots of wide open space between here and there.

I'm trying to listen to the press conference again but the sound is not cooperating. The recording is now at the bottom of this article:

MISSING: Family pleads for help in find Woodland Park mom not seen since Thanksgiving

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  • #356
I *think* they said in the press conference that the mom reported her missing on December 2nd and that's when they did the welfare check, and found her not at home. The November 25th date - according to the press conference - is when mom texted 'fiancee' and was told he hadn't heard from her since Thanksgiving.

So mom checks in with fiancee, then the same day 'Kelsey' texts work, and the phone pings in Idaho.

<modsnip - not victim friendly>.

News reported that mom did a welfare check request on November 25th but a report was not filed until December 2nd.
 
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  • #357
She was off work Thanksgiving, then texted employer to say she would be off the next week. BF's name was mentioned: Patrick Crasee? Spelling on last name wrong.

LE in presser said baby was with its father, Patrick. Is the father of the baby the boyfriend, ex-husband or fiance?
 
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BBM - May be why her facebook is so locked down, just musings on my part.
Most people lock down their facebook pages these days. I have a very stable and happy life and my social media is still as private as possible. Don't think it means anything
 
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