CO CO - Kelsie Schelling, 21, pregnant, Pueblo, 4 Feb 2013 *Arrest*

[Seattle1]

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Again, catching up on the threads and this is a fabulous post as to information to catch up.

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"14. Donthe Lucas is then observed by surveillance video parking Kelsie’s car
at the Wal-Mart parking lot, located at 4080 West Northern Avenue in Pueblo. Donthe
exits the car and walks to the rear of the store where he was picked up by his mother,
Sara Lucas, and grandmother, Vivian Lucas."

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6slmuQoMVK3QkkzZUwxWmJERHM/view?hc_location=ufi

Link to lawsuit

41. Although Sara Lucas was regularly late paying her rent prior to February
of 2013, she started to pay her rent promptly in February of 2013. In September of 2013,
Sara Lucas’s landlord received notice that the utilities in her rental home were turned off.
He found that the house was vacated and trashed. Sara Lucas appears to have vacated her
Pueblo residence some months prior to September of 2013 because maggots covered the
kitchen and soiled laundry throughout the house. The landlord arranged for the required
repairs, including replacement of the carpet. When the carpet was pulled up in the living
room, the bottom was soaked with a substance that appeared to be blood, with several
drops leading from the living room and pooling in a closet. The landlord notified the
Pueblo Police Department and offered to give them access to the house. Although the
police would not investigate the scene at that time, the landlord waited several weeks for
the Pueblo Police Department to collect the carpet. When the landlord offered to bring
the carpet to the Pueblo Police Department, he was instructed not to bring the carpet.
Unaware of the entire matter that is the subject of this case, the landlord eventually
disposed of the carpet. After Detective Robinson contacted the landlord in January of
2014, the Pueblo Police Department decided not to conduct a further investigation on the
alleged blood found in Sara Lucas’s residence, although traces of blood could plausibly
be located to this date. The Pueblo Police Department Defendant’s shocking indifference
to securing the carpet or remaining biological traces at the former residence of Donthe
and Sara Lucas demonstrated the intentional abandonment of clearly inculpatory
evidence that is material to any criminal investigation of the disappearance and death of
Kelsie Schelling and to Plaintiffs’ wrongful death case against the Lucases

Link does not work for me??

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Link does not work for me??

I guess it's a stale link that I bumped from earlier in the thread.

 

[Roselvr]

I have been away from this thread for so long, I did not get the significance of the hair. This morning I took the time to start of the very very beginning of this thread and going through it entirely. Now I understand the significance of the hair. And why a post from June 4th, 2014 above-mentioned the mother.

"In an interview with The Denver Post, Saxton revealed many details that have never been discussed publicly.

For example, she explained that the video showed Lucas climbing out of her daughter’s car and walking to the back of the car and climbing into his mother’s vehicle.

The car remained overnight. At 7:20 a.m. the next morning a man wearing sunglasses, gloves and a hoodie came out from behind the Walmart, walked directly to Kelsie’s car, opened the door, climbed in and immediately drove away."

Thank goodness for this site where I can go back from a start and pick up on stuff that I totally had missed because I have not been following it and got sidetracked.

Denver woman disappears after sending ultrasound to boyfriend

ETA finding @spamelope post, who kept This Thread updated so much thank you! You are a very good soul

Why would his mothers hair be in the back of Kelsie's car unless she helped her son put Kelsie's body in the back or at least that's what I think happened...

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Why would his mothers hair be in the back of Kelsie's car unless she helped her son put Kelsie's body in the back or at least that's what I think happened...

Yes, now that I have read the entire thread I better understand. I had been away from the case for a long time and needed to review the entire thing to understand.

I thought it was very interesting on one of the two YouTube videos that I found on this thread (that interviewed the mother on the steps outside of her apartment) that his mother said that she had only met her once, and she talked about a key over her heart that that had her son's name on it. That was such a weird thing to say - and after learning the hair was in the trunk, it made me go h m m m m.

This is the post that has the link to the two interviews of the mom

I hope they question both boys but they might just ask about the robbery. Sara Lucas, the mother of Donthe and Duschon claimed that they harassed Duschons twin sister, who has her Facebook under the name Des Shantel when she was in trouble for truency. Sara claimed they said she would be charged with murder and kidnapping trying to scare and harass her child.

Sara also admitted to failing a lie detector test. She doesn't sound or look like she's doing too well. Hopefully what they did and have to keep secret is taking its toll.

Here are the links to the two interviews, a concerned citizen conducted with Sara. They stood outside her house and protested in the street until she finally came out and spoke. The 2nd interview is more telling imo.

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ETA re the mother's interview- on the special last night on the Oxygen Channel, that covered the Watts case, Tammy the FBI agent said that on a polygraph test that + 2 or above is truthful, less than a -4 is lying, and the mother said in one of the interviews here that she got a -8 on her polygraph.

Oh yeah, in addition she said that she doesn't shoplift, she doesn't rob, she doesn't lie Etc. This was before the robbery charge she pled guilty to I guess LOL

 

[Roselvr]

Yes, now that I have read the entire thread I better understand. I had been away from the case for a long time and needed to review the entire thing to understand.

I thought it was very interesting on one of the two YouTube videos that I found on this thread (that interviewed the mother on the steps outside of her apartment) that his mother said that she had only met her once, and she talked about a key over her heart that that had her son's name on it. That was such a weird thing to say - and after learning the hair was in the trunk, it made me go h m m m m.

This is the post that has the link to the two interviews of the mom



ETA re the mother's interview- on the special last night on the Oxygen Channel, that covered the Watts case, Tammy the FBI agent said that on a polygraph test that + 2 or above is truthful, less than a -4 is lying, and the mother said in one of the interviews here that she got a -8 on her polygraph.

Oh yeah, in addition she said that she doesn't shoplift, she doesn't rob, she doesn't lie Etc. This was before the robbery charge she pled guilty to I guess LOL

Thanks for posting the you tube interviews. I remember them but will try to rewatch them during the week.

Yeah, his mother claims to not have seen Kelsie more then once, yet we see her at Walmart when her son moves Kelsie's car. Now we have her hair in the back which proves she was lying. Like I've said, I wonder if she'll get arrested too at some point...

 

[Seattle1]

Thanks for posting the you tube interviews. I remember them but will try to rewatch them during the week.

Yeah, his mother claims to not have seen Kelsie more then once, yet we see her at Walmart when her son moves Kelsie's car. Now we have her hair in the back which proves she was lying. Like I've said, I wonder if she'll get arrested too at some point...

I recall when LD was initially arrested over an unrelated robbery incident that also involved his brother and mother-- at one point all three of them were in jail.

I always believed had they been able to hold mother longer she would have said something to incriminate herself in KS murder. It was when the grandmother was called in to testify that they started closing the court hearings and the delays became sport.

MOO

Kelsie Schelling's ex-boyfriend held on $100,000 bond for robbery charges

 

[Topppps]

Just started following this case, what evidence do they have on him? How do they know she's dead without a body?

 

[Roselvr]

Just started following this case, what evidence do they have on him? How do they know she's dead without a body?

See if you can find her mothers original lawsuit against LE. She lists a bunch of stuff with Kelsie's car that was not processed. If I remember correctly, I believe his mothers hair was found in her car too.

 

[Seattle1]

See if you can find her mothers original lawsuit against LE. She lists a bunch of stuff with Kelsie's car that was not processed. If I remember correctly, I believe his mothers hair was found in her car too.

Lawsuit Claims Lies & Cover Up By Pueblo Police In Missing Woman Case

 

[Topppps]

Looks like the case is weak, has there ever been a.murder conviction without a body in the US where the state had none of: 1. Large amount of blood suggesting death 2. Confession 3. Witness of murder 4. Peices of body suggesting death

 

[fantascination]

Hi all. Have been so invested in the Gannon Stauch case I haven’t had a chance to pop over here yet.

Just wanted to ask: has anybody checked NamUs or The Doe Project, and checking UIDs against Kelsie’s description? I just can’t shake the idea that her remains might be out there, unidentified. Especially if DL took her out of state.

Has anybody done this yet? Just wanted to check in before I start digging.

 

[MajorHoople]

I saw a segment tonight on Court TV. They plan to cover this case when the trial starts.

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[Seattle1]

I saw a segment tonight on Court TV. They plan to cover this case when the trial starts.

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Good to know that Court TV will be tracking the case.

We need to identify find which Southern Colo reporters will be covering her trial as there are no cameras/live streaming of criminal trials in Colorado courtrooms. It's trial by Twitter.

 

[Seattle1]

Donthe Lucas’ trial pushed back because of coronavirus


PUEBLO, Colo. (KRDO) -- It's been a series of delays in the murder trial of Donthe Lucas, the Pueblo man accused of killing Kelsie Schelling, and now the coronavirus impact on local courts is causing yet another delay.

Instead of starting on May 5, Lucas' trial is tentatively set to start on Sept. 22, according to court records. It's expected to take about five weeks.

The trial has continually been reset due to a variety of issues after originally being set for April 2019.

Donthe Lucas' trial pushed back because of coronavirus - KRDO

Schelling disappeared on Feb. 4, 2013, after traveling from Denver to Pueblo to visit Lucas, the alleged father of her unborn child. Since then, Schelling has not been seen or heard from.

Despite Schelling's body not being found, prosecutors filed a murder charge against Lucas.

 

[Seattle1]

The suspect, mother, and brother were all arrested by Dec 2017 for a Sept 2017 robbery that happened outside of the home the Lucas family was living in at the time. Donte was arrested at the Denver International Airport on Nov 13, 2017, and has been in jail ever since. He was charged with Kelsie's murder on Dec 1, 2017, while he was already in custody.

Mom and brother have already been sentenced (after pleading guilty) for the 2017 robbery charges but the robbery matter is still pending for Donte.

I'd feel better if I knew that the alleged murder of Kelsie still had prison time to face in the event he's not found guilty later Sept/Oct for Kelsie's murder.

However, I'm also afraid that even if Donte pleads guilty to the 2017 robbery charge (prior to his murder trial), and receives 3-year sentence (as mom and brother received), that he will be given credit for the time he's been held in jail.

I've had much anxiety over this case! So sorry for KS mother and her family and friends that have waited more than 7 years for justice.

MOO

Sara Lucas gets 3 years in prison for Pueblo robbery

 

[GoJacks]

Good to know that Court TV will be tracking the case.

We need to identify find which Southern Colo reporters will be covering her trial as there are no cameras/live streaming of criminal trials in Colorado courtrooms. It's trial by Twitter.

I hope someone covers it, I know Sam K originally said he had hoped to cover it, but he moved. It might be hard for people to cover it because of COVID, could be limiting who is let in.

This is one of the first cases here I really got invested in. Everything has been so hush hush from the start. We really know nothing on what kind of evidence they have against DL. Pueblo PD really dropped the ball from the start with this one, luckily CBI got involved a few years ago.

Also I saw that Kelsie's mom said the other day that she expects it to be pushed back again It's been pushed back so many times that this is just getting ridiculous at this point.

 

[Topppps]

I hope someone covers it, I know Sam K originally said he had hoped to cover it, but he moved. It might be hard for people to cover it because of COVID, could be limiting who is let in.

This is one of the first cases here I really got invested in. Everything has been so hush hush from the start. We really know nothing on what kind of evidence they have against DL. Pueblo PD really dropped the ball from the start with this one, luckily CBI got involved a few years ago.

Also I saw that Kelsie's mom said the other day that she expects it to be pushed back again It's been pushed back so many times that this is just getting ridiculous at this point.

Id be surprised if they are able to convict, they're getting bullied into this court room because of lawsuits by the mom. You normally need one or more of this type of evidence for murder case without a body: 1. Confession i.e. Chistiansen case 2. Large amount of blood i.e. Dulos/ Stauch 3. Eye witness i.e. Frazee 4. Bone fragments i.e. Wiodchipper murder.

Doesn't look like LE hasn't any of these. I'd be surprised if they have it. I'm very interested in the arrest warrant.

 

[GoJacks]

Id be surprised if they are able to convict, they're getting bullied into this court room because of lawsuits by the mom. You normally need one or more of this type of evidence for murder case without a body: 1. Confession i.e. Chistiansen case 2. Large amount of blood i.e. Dulos/ Stauch 3. Eye witness i.e. Frazee 4. Bone fragments i.e. Wiodchipper murder.

Doesn't look like LE hasn't any of these. I'd be surprised if they have it. I'm very interested in the arrest warrant.

We literally don't know what they have though. They could have 1,2,3 for all we know at this point. There's been a lot of closed door hearings with DL's grandma (where he lived), for all we know she could be the smoking gun. He already admitted to lying about taking her to the hospital and about moving her car at the prelim hearing, so who knows what else he has admitted to. I imagine they have a lot of evidence that we don't know about or there's no way they'd attempt to take this case to court with a first degree murder charge.

But yes of course if they don't have any of the above then a conviction will be hard.

 

[Seattle1]

Donthe Lucas trial for murder of Kelsie Schelling pushed back indefinitely

By Kasia Kerridge
Published: Sep. 1, 2020 at 11:57 AM PDT|Updated: 5 hours ago


PUEBLO, Colo. (KKTV) - The murder trial for Donthe Lucas will be pushed back indefinitely.

11 News confirmed with 10th Judicial District Attorney Jeff Chostner there is an issue involving the Colorado Supreme Court. Chostner did not specify what the issue was, but said it will overtake the September trial date.

This comes after his trial has already been pushed back four times previously. Lucas’ most recent trial date was scheduled for this month.

Chostner told 11 News, the judge “simply vacated the current date, and we will re-set once the case comes back from the Supreme Court, but no one knows when that will be.”

[..]

Donthe Lucas is charged with the disappearance of his then-girlfriend Kelsie Schelling. Schelling was pregnant at the time. Schelling went missing in February of 2013 when she was heading to Pueblo from Denver to see Lucas about her pregnancy. Schelling’s body still has not been found.

Originally, the trial was scheduled for April of 2019, but new evidence was found in the case last summer. Lucas was arrested in December 2017 while in jail on an unrelated robbery charge. Lucas pleaded not guilty to first-degree murder in August 2018.

Right now, there is no new trial date scheduled.

 

[Seattle1]

No words. I'm simply heartsick over this news.

Peace and support for Kelsie's mother.