But in that case, they had to admit there was at least foul play. Four kids didn't stab themselves to death. Here, they're not merely saying "no risk to the community" but "no reason to suspect foul play" which... just wow.I wish I knew the area. The only way I can see "no foul play" would be an accident like Megan and someone else were above where she was found, maybe there was an arguement, Megan started to slip off an edge, someone grabbed her purse to stop her fall, it ripped and down she went. In a panic, disposed of the purse where it was found. Or the purse was left there, found by a random person who ransacked it and dumped it where it was found.
In the Moscow, ID murders, LE kept saying it was an isolated, targeted attack. It was six weeks until they arrested someone and he was already on their radar before that. I can hope for similar here.
I agree, they could not avoid calling that one foul play, but the point is that LE tries to downplay what they can, to avoid panic and to not tip their hand if they have a person of interest. I'd like to hope for that in this case.But in that case, they had to admit there was at least foul play. Four kids didn't stab themselves to death. Here, they're not merely saying "no risk to the community" but "no reason to suspect foul play" which... just wow.
And, the only reason to give out no information whatsoever, even to the family, is if there was foul play. If this was a suicide or accident, it would be fine to tell the family that, because there's no perpetrator out there to potentially tip off.
I know the area and although it's possible some very unlikely and unfortunate coincidences and events happened to make this an accident, it seems like a stretch to me personally. For this to have been an accident it would've had to be something like this:I wish I knew the area. The only way I can see "no foul play" would be an accident like Megan and someone else were above where she was found, maybe there was an arguement, Megan started to slip off an edge, someone grabbed her purse to stop her fall, it ripped and down she went. In a panic, disposed of the purse where it was found. Or the purse was left there, found by a random person who ransacked it and dumped it where it was found.
In the Moscow, ID murders, LE kept saying it was an isolated, targeted attack. It was six weeks until they arrested someone and he was already on their radar before that. I can hope for similar here.
Was her phone turned off, or did it die at the end? Lack of pings between 10:45 and 11:55 might mean bad connections or being turned off. After 11:55 maybe battery died?I know the area and although it's possible some very unlikely and unfortunate coincidences and events happened to make this an accident, it seems like a stretch to me personally. For this to have been an accident it would've had to be something like this:
I can't actually make out an accident to have her land where she was found, but I might misunderstand where she was found. It sounds, from the reports I've read, like she was not only off the path but down a ravine where it would've been challenging for her to organically _fall_ but my impressions might be wrong.
- Megan leaves her house, with her platform shoes on and her purse (with her phone) just before 10pm, walking west up the creek path
- At some point, she is attacked and her purse is stolen (which has her phone)
- During this, Megan loses a shoe
- The person who attacks her and steals her phone rides up the canyon to where her body is later recovered, thus the ping at the 40 minute mark happens
- Same person (or different person) switches off the phone and possibly removes sim card
- Same person (or different person) travels back down the path wi to where her purse is found and ditches the purse but keeps the phone
- Megan is chasing after her stuff and goes up the canyon (with one shoe)
- When she gets there, $something happens and she ends up over the drop-off, and a ways away from the path where she later succumbs to her fall damage
Although Boulder does have a number of unhoused people who occasionally are violent, this all seems like a stretch. Why wait until they're at the place she was found to turn off the phone? Where's her shoe? How did she end up where she was?
In that area, right at the mouth of the canyon, a place to fall or jump from would be hard to get to. The road is not high up from the creek in that area; you couldn't really "fall off" or jump off the road or bike path there. (Edit: I should say, yes, you could fall off, but it would be falling down a hill and getting bumps and bruises and maybe a sprained ankle or fracture. NOT something you would look down from and think you would die instantly if you jumped.) There are a number of rock formations within a short (10 -15 min) hike, but getting to the top of them would be steep and/or technical and in her platforms I just can't see it. Further up the canyon is a different story, but mile marker 40 is really just past Eben G. Fine Park and where Arapahoe crosses the creek. It's right next to town.Was her phone turned off, or did it die at the end? Lack of pings between 10:45 and 11:55 might mean bad connections or being turned off. After 11:55 maybe battery died?
Do you know, what kinds of drop offs are around there? Is it easy or really difficult to get to a place you could fall and die? Would friends go to place like that?
Random scenario Megan goes with someone else by car to the turn out at mile 40. They get out and climb to that spot. Megan falls, purse is ripped while trying to save her, shoe is left behind. Shoe is picked up, maybe even put in purse, person leaves, drives away, dumps purse however its dumped (by bike, pitched out of a car I don't know what is most feasible). For all we know the other shoe has been found somewhere.
What I don't know is if anyone would voluntarily go to that spot where you could fall off or if it was something people might normally climb to. In my area I could easily look at a location and say "Nope. No one would go there ever" or " Maybe if they liked a challenge" or "never at night" or "Sure, people go for the view all the time", etc. But I would need to know the location.
suppose some one on an ebike grabbed her purse- knocking her down, injuring her. they toss the purse and contents later. maybe more than one person so a second ebike hits her and they toss her body.... Are there lights on the path? Would she have been going downtown to meet some one?I know the area and although it's possible some very unlikely and unfortunate coincidences and events happened to make this an accident, it seems like a stretch to me personally. For this to have been an accident it would've had to be something like this:
I can't actually make out an accident to have her land where she was found, but I might misunderstand where she was found. It sounds, from the reports I've read, like she was not only off the path but down a ravine where it would've been challenging for her to organically _fall_ but my impressions might be wrong.
- Megan leaves her house, with her platform shoes on and her purse (with her phone) just before 10pm, walking west up the creek path
- At some point, she is attacked and her purse is stolen (which has her phone)
- During this, Megan loses a shoe
- The person who attacks her and steals her phone rides up the canyon to where her body is later recovered, thus the ping at the 40 minute mark happens
- Same person (or different person) switches off the phone and possibly removes sim card
- Same person (or different person) travels back down the path wi to where her purse is found and ditches the purse but keeps the phone
- Megan is chasing after her stuff and goes up the canyon (with one shoe)
- When she gets there, $something happens and she ends up over the drop-off, and a ways away from the path where she later succumbs to her fall damage
Although Boulder does have a number of unhoused people who occasionally are violent, this all seems like a stretch. Why wait until they're at the place she was found to turn off the phone? Where's her shoe? How did she end up where she was?
A like wasn't enough. Thank you so much!In that area, right at the mouth of the canyon, a place to fall or jump from would be hard to get to. The road is not high up from the creek in that area; you couldn't really "fall off" or jump off the road or bike path there. (Edit: I should say, yes, you could fall off, but it would be falling down a hill and getting bumps and bruises and maybe a sprained ankle or fracture. NOT something you would look down from and think you would die instantly if you jumped.) There are a number of rock formations within a short (10 -15 min) hike, but getting to the top of them would be steep and/or technical and in her platforms I just can't see it. Further up the canyon is a different story, but mile marker 40 is really just past Eben G. Fine Park and where Arapahoe crosses the creek. It's right next to town.
Welcome to WebSleuths, geauxepic182!hello! so i am a student at cu, im also born and raised in boulder and wanted to ask about a possibility that my mom and i were talking about a bit ago.
to preface, over the summer a 15 year old boy from my high school tragically passed away after ingesting psychedelics, climbing a construction crane, and falling. we’ve interacted maybe once or twice but he was a sweet kid and knew many underclassmen i was friends with.
i remember it not being an uncommon occurrence to see someone you know get dosed incorrectly or get a tainted supply of any kind of drug usually from someone that would reside around the creek pretty much all day to sell to high schoolers/cu students. i’m curious as to the possibility of megan potentially being on something or being fed a bad supply. this isn’t an insinuation of bad character or anything but like drug abuse is so normalized at cu it’s uncommon and even considered weird if you don’t have a drug/alcohol vice—even if you’re not in greek life!!
may she rest in peace. i think about her all the time. she was so beautiful and seemed like the kind of girl you could talk to about anything without fear of judgment. heaven gained an angel.
Context: Man accused of distributing psilocybin mushrooms to 20 Boulder County high school students faces 40 countshello! so i am a student at cu, im also born and raised in boulder and wanted to ask about a possibility that my mom and i were talking about a bit ago.
to preface, over the summer a 15 year old boy from my high school tragically passed away after ingesting psychedelics, climbing a construction crane, and falling. we’ve interacted maybe once or twice but he was a sweet kid and knew many underclassmen i was friends with.
i remember it not being an uncommon occurrence to see someone you know get dosed incorrectly or get a tainted supply of any kind of drug usually from someone that would reside around the creek pretty much all day to sell to high schoolers/cu students. i’m curious as to the possibility of megan potentially being on something or being fed a bad supply. this isn’t an insinuation of bad character or anything but like drug abuse is so normalized at cu it’s uncommon and even considered weird if you don’t have a drug/alcohol vice—even if you’re not in greek life!!
may she rest in peace. i think about her all the time. she was so beautiful and seemed like the kind of girl you could talk to about anything without fear of judgment. heaven gained an angel.