CO - Possible Serial Shooter Has Colorado Drivers on Edge #1

[KaaBoom]

Why not just fly drones or place more cameras along fhe route.

Probably wouldn't be very effective. The chance of a drone being in the right place at the right time to catch the suspect, would be pretty slim.

 

[searchinGirl]

if this incident this morning is related to the NOCO shootings then I would say a similarity would be that stretch of interstate and the land around it is isolated and lonely...if true would you consider this a major escalation of the crime spree?...it would have expanded the area to include another County Sheriff's Office (Arapahoe) at the very least and really would have deflected any sort of pattern...it could be however that the shooter wanted to try shooting moving cars again...who knows?

 

[Ray_of_hope]

So carjacker was not in the accident originally reported. Report says that while officer was checking wreck victims, another officer spotted man walking with a gun. Don't know the distance between the two events. I know it was an hour after the initial call re: wreck. http://kdvr.com/2015/06/06/man-with-gun-killed-after-i-70-carjacking-chase-near-strasburg/

 

[FindHG]

So carjacker was not in the accident originally reported. Report says that while officer was checking wreck victims, another officer spotted man walking with a gun. Don't know the distance between the two events. I know it was an hour after the initial call re: wreck. http://kdvr.com/2015/06/06/man-with-gun-killed-after-i-70-carjacking-chase-near-strasburg/

If you tilt and look around from here on this google map link

 

[Forager]

if this incident this morning is related to the NOCO shootings then I would say a similarity would be that stretch of interstate and the land around it is isolated and lonely...if true would you consider this a major escalation of the crime spree?...it would have expanded the area to include another County Sheriff's Office (Arapahoe) at the very least and really would have deflected any sort of pattern...it could be however that the shooter wanted to try shooting moving cars again...who knows?

The shooter was spotted about 80 miles, by car, from the 'center of gravity', if you will, of the locations of the various shootings and shatterings. That isn't to say that the NOCO shooter(s) we are looking for couldn't easily have moved that far, but our looking that far away greatly increases the odds of our finding a similar but unrelated incident. Look far enough and you're guaranteed to find a situation in which a cop come across a guy with a gun on a road who makes a run for it.

I'm figuring that the NOCO shooter switches between a long barreled pellet gun weapon, for the highway window shatterings, and a medium caiber pistol for the lethal off highway shootings (Romero was shot on an on ramp). But it doesn't make much sense that he would be walking with a pistol instead of a long barreled gun, for a highway shooting.

 

[SugarQueen]

This article says Cori was shot from the drivers side window. Our spreadsheet says passenger side. Anyone know which side it really was?

ETA...oops, forgot the link.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...ng-police-still-not-sure-where-shot-came-from

 

[SugarQueen]

Yep, I've been saying 2 weapons all along.

 

[Peliman]

I'm wondering if LE isn't using a mobile version of spotshotter used in other cities.

GUNS IN AMERICA: This article is part of an occasional series examining the role of guns and the influence of the gun industry in the United States.


When ShotSpotter’s remote monitors — microphones and circuitry in a weatherproof shell — detect a loud noise, a central computer program analyzes the acoustic signature, providing a more accurate location than people usually can. It classifies the source, pinpoints the suspected location to within a few yards and notifies police. City personnel verify the alert and dispatch officers.


“ShotSpotter gives you a specific location,” said Kristopher Baumann, president of the D.C. police union. “You can go there and get out of the car. You can find a victim or shell casings.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...5f8e9c-2ab1-11e3-8ade-a1f23cda135e_story.html

 

[Forager]

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... and if you wouldn't mind clearing something up for me...in this link it says that Cory Romero's driver-side window shattered but your spreadsheet says it was the passenger-side window... I think it might make a difference and I'm wondering if this creep didn't follow her from her work to the ramp...
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...ng-police-still-not-sure-where-shot-came-from

Thanks for noticing that SearchingGirl, and also SugarQueen. That's an important detail, and I had it backwards. I've now fixed it.

 

[SugarQueen]

Sorry Forager, I didn't realize Searching had already asked. Thanks for fixing it! : )

 

[spamelope]

http://www.9news.com/story/news/2015/06/06/shooting-reported-in-loveland-on-saturday/28621543/
I don't know if this is related or not!
STORY: Police were responding to a reported shooting northeast of Loveland on Saturday afternoon.

Emergency dispatchers reported multiple reports of gunshots in the area of Thomas Court at about 5:15 p.m.

Early, unconfirmed reports indicated a male suspect was being cooperative with law enforcement, while a victim was declared dead on the scene:

 

[DexterMorgan]

I think it was a gopro that wes mentions.

 

[FindHG]

Colorado police check if killing linked to 2 other shootings
Jun 06, 2015 3:45 PM EDT
CNN's Ralph Ellis and Dan Simon, but I didn't catch the reporters name, who stated that

The liquor store's surv. footage may have captured cars going by and LE has it.
6th deadly shooting in a decade, in this area, up to now.

 

[spamelope]

Apparently, this shooting isn't related.
CBSDenver ‏@CBSDenver 7m7 minutes ago
UPDATE: Larimer County's @Sheriff_Smith confirms fatality at NE Loveland shooting, says incident not related to recent roadway shootings.
https://twitter.com/search?q=loveland shooting&src=typd

this is crazy.

 

[Forager]

http://www.9news.com/story/news/2015/06/06/shooting-reported-in-loveland-on-saturday/28621543/
I don't know if this is related or not!
STORY: Police were responding to a reported shooting northeast of Loveland on Saturday afternoon.

Emergency dispatchers reported multiple reports of gunshots in the area of Thomas Court at about 5:15 p.m.

Early, unconfirmed reports indicated a male suspect was being cooperative with law enforcement, while a victim was declared dead on the scene:

Thanks for noticing it so quickly. Who knows if it's related, but I've marked it on the map with a little purple circle.

Here's the map itself.
CO Shootings Case Map

 

[FindHG]

Colorado police check if killing linked to 2 other shootings

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Tilt from google map here for perspective:

 

[spamelope]

Thanks for noticing it so quickly. Who knows if it's related, but I've marked it on the map with a little purple circle.

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You're welcome. Thank you for all you've been doing on this. I thought at first they were talking about the earlier shooting. All this activity in a town we laughingly call "Mayberry." They were very quick to state that this isn't related to the other shootings. They didn't say, "Hey, it's early, let us figure this out. Could be connected. We have no idea." Maybe I'm reading into things too much, but I'm hopeful they have a suspect in mind and this guy wasn't him.

 

[SugarQueen]

I'm off to catch some zzzz's. If our shooter follows previous weeks he won't be active until Monday . Hopefully the video from the liquor store helps LE find him before then.
Tomorrow is a new day, maybe a fresh look from the beginning will help us all.

 

[Foxfire]

Former FBI agent says northern Colorado shooting task force should engage public for tips
Ex-FBI agent Brad Garrett worked D.C. Sniper case
Marshall Zelinger, 7News, Jun 6, '15, 1:03 am, has interesting report

Loveland Report-Herald's Raw of Loveland PC Jun 4, 2015

"I think that I really like the way retired FBI Special Agent Brad Garrett, thinks".. Public Safety trumps prosecutions, imo.. Identifying and apprehending the unknown suspect/s should be the number one priority, imo..
"Without public safety for our families, friends, and loved ones, we have nothing"..
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DENVER - A former FBI agent who worked the Washington, D.C. sniper investigation believes a task force investigating a series of shootings in northern Colorado should engage the public for tips.

So far, the task force has been silent on details.
"Other than saying that there are similarities, that's all we're willing to release at this time," said task force spokesman David Moore.

The task force is made up of members of the Windsor Police Department, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Larimer County Sheriff&#8217;s Office, Weld County Sheriff&#8217;s Office, Weld County District Attorney&#8217;s Office, Larimer County District Attorney&#8217;s Office and the Loveland Police Department.

"We're going to say this a lot, you're going to hear this a lot; we do not want to release information because it is considered evidence in the investigation," said Moore.

Brad Garrett, the former FBI agent turned ABC analyst, says to get information, the task force needs to release more information.

"The officer needs to stand there and explain, 'Look, we've had a shooting at this location, this is what little information we know, we need your help,'" Garrett said.

 

[Forager]

If law enforcement organizations are anything like corporate ones, there have to be powerful disincentives to sharing information, even when it's recognized that it's smart and important to do so. The in-house lawyers take it as a tenant of the faith that less is better, managers have an instinctive fear any powerpoint including the phrase "I don't know yet", and information always gets cleaned up and made more optimistic as it goes up the chain. We need constant reminders, like the one former FBI Special Agent Brad Garrett made, to serve higher interests with candor. I wish courage to the NOCO task force in seeking public engagement to help solve these crimes and, above all, to prevent future ones.