CO - Possible Serial Shooter Has Colorado Drivers on Edge #2

[margarita25]

just wondering...does anyone know if there is a video game that simulates this behavior?

Great question sG!

 

[FindHG]

Knock on wood...(I think the perp(s) might be hoping for this, jmo).

Great suggestions, all. May your double u's restored bring luck, M25!

 

[SugarQueen]

just wondering...does anyone know if there is a video game that simulates this behavior?

Grand theft auto or Saints Row come to mind. Both are drive around and shoot type games.

 

[searchinGirl]

here's a link from this morning's Denver Post about the FBI and NOCO Task Force and the latest incident... http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_2...es-loveland-lead-colorado-shooting-task-force
it says they closed off 18th St between Chelsea Drive and Denver Ave...short stretch of road in a residential area with a string of LE officers lined up appearing to do a grid search?... notice there is a white Ford SUV parked in front...

 

[margarita25]

'Why would they release the info of other agencies being involved in this investigation, yet not want to release the names of the other agencies to the public'?
The circumstances are showing no distinguishable patterns? I am at a loss...
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http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...r-to-public-includes-shattered-windows-update
Northern Colorado shootings task force sends letter to public, includes shattered windows update

Deb Stanley
6:19 AM, Jun 19, 2015

The letter explains that while the FBI, Windsor Police, Loveland Police, Larimer County Sheriff's Office, Weld County Sheriff's Office and other agencies are involved in this investigation, authorities don't want to release the names of the other agencies at this time.

The letter also explains that the task force is not releasing some information about their investigation on purpose.

"During a normal investigation, we might very likely outline the numbers and types of resources being used, however with the unique nature of this investigation we have concluded that revealing those kinds of specific details could be counterproductive to expeditiously solving these cases," the letter says.

As for the sharp increase in reports of shattered windows, the letter reiterates that so far, there is no connection to the shootings.

"To date, we have found no solid evidence that any of these incidents are related to our shootings," the letter says. "However, to be sure, we have assigned a work group at the task force to review any and all of these types of incidents that are being reported."

The letter goes on to say, "Not only have we not found physical evidence tying them together, but the circumstances are showing no distinguishable patterns. Again, we are not in a position to give too many details, but so far it seems most likely that these are being caused by road debris."

Foxfire, the same thing immediately crossed my mind. It is indeed odd/interesting to me that some agencies can not be named publicly. I've never seen this stated in a case here before, have you guys?

I have been thinking long and hard about the other possible agencies that could be involved, and why they might not be named. Since LE has stated that this anonymity is in order to protect the integrity of the investigation, I will refrain from speculating on this aspect, but I did want to ask you guys out of curiosity's sake if you've ever seen in a PC LE openly state they can not name the other agencies involved.

This case / thread is unique in many ways from most of the other cases we see here on ws imo...it is an interesting change of pace from an investigative stand-point, as far as my approach in a missing person's case, but perhaps the one common factor is the importance of mapping, and perhaps awareness space...is awareness space a strong consideration in a case like this? I'm not so sure if it applies as much here, or does it? Do you guys think the perp(s) might shoot in his own backyard, or do you think he might take a trip/excursion further from his awareness space? I still think there's a strong chance that he could be in the area for work...jmo


Link to article about awareness space / Jessica R's case:
http://www.boulderweekly.com/articl...ss-lsawareness-spacers-may-lead-to-clues.html

 

[margarita25]

Right after the Vehicle description came out I tried searching craigslist, oodle, and a few other trucks for sale sites. THAT is like a needle in a haystack! Lol.

Yes it is. But it's all we've got, so keep searching, lol! That's my exciting plan for this weekend :biggrin:

Maybe it's a college kid's car. You know, one of those Point A to Point B cars...
Ft. Collins listings / CSU...?

 

[margarita25]

here's a link from this morning's Denver Post about the FBI and NOCO Task Force and the latest incident... http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_2...es-loveland-lead-colorado-shooting-task-force
it says they closed off 18th St between Chelsea Drive and Denver Ave...short stretch of road in a residential area with a string of LE officers lined up appearing to do a grid search?... notice there is a white Ford SUV parked in front...

(Uuhat omg...just sauu this...going to read :scared: )

 

[margarita25]

I don't know what is more frightening: That the 2 Loveland shootings are done by the shooter of Romero and Jacoby and that there is a serial shooter that is that heinous and aggressive, OR that there are actually 2 lunatics driving around shooting innocent people!

(I used to think that the chances of more than one active lunatic at one time in the same area were slim, then you look at cases like in Virginia, RAT AND JLM for example.)

 

[FindHG]

here's a link from this morning's Denver Post about the FBI and NOCO Task Force and the latest incident... http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_2...es-loveland-lead-colorado-shooting-task-force
it says they closed off 18th St between Chelsea Drive and Denver Ave...short stretch of road in a residential area with a string of LE officers lined up appearing to do a grid search?... notice there is a white Ford SUV parked in front...

Thank you, searchinGirl, for this news, more info for the map.

 

[PrairieWind]

Yes it is. But it's all we've got, so keep searching, lol! That's my exciting plan for this weekend :biggrin:

Maybe it's a college kid's car. You know, one of those Point A to Point B cars...
Ft. Collins listings / CSU...?

I had wondered about CSU earlier, but that vehicle doesn't seem like a typical "college car." That truck would get TERRIBLE gas mileage.

 

[Foxfire]

Foxfire, the same thing immediately crossed my mind. It is indeed odd/interesting to me that some agencies can not be named publicly. I've never seen this stated in a case here before, have you guys?

I have been thinking long and hard about the other possible agencies that could be involved, and why they might not be named. Since LE has stated that this anonymity is in order to protect the integrity of the investigation, I will refrain from speculating on this aspect, but I did want to ask you guys out of curiosity's sake if you've ever seen in a PC LE openly state they can not name the other agencies involved.

This case / thread is unique in many ways from most of the other cases we see here on ws imo...it is an interesting change of pace from an investigative stand-point, as far as my approach in a missing person's case, but perhaps the one common factor is the importance of mapping, and perhaps awareness space...is awareness space a strong consideration in a case like this? I'm not so sure if it applies as much here, or does it? Do you guys think the perp(s) might shoot in his own backyard, or do you think he might take a trip/excursion further from his awareness space? I still think there's a strong chance that he could be in the area for work...jmo


Link to article about awareness space / Jessica R's case:
http://www.boulderweekly.com/articl...ss-lsawareness-spacers-may-lead-to-clues.html

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Yes, margarita25.. The NOCO Sniper case is rather interesting and very unique; not the norm, bordering on an anomaly, imo.. an organized, multi jurisdictional, likely non gang related drive-by shooting/s in reverse, with targets of opportunity seemingly selected at random..

Due to the time that has elapsed without the shooter's identification or apprehension and the easy access to the interstate/s. Imo, he would live outside his awareness space. This is due to the numerous number of days and times that the shootings occurred, <if also responsible for the shattered window incidents>.. Something about the area makes him feel that that he can operate undetected, imo..

Margarita25, the unnamed agency must be the 'Secret' Service...

 

[Foxfire]

Originally Posted by searchinGirl View Post
here's a link from this morning's Denver Post about the FBI and NOCO Task Force and the latest incident... http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_28...ing-task-force
it says they closed off 18th St between Chelsea Drive and Denver Ave...short stretch of road in a residential area with a string of LE officers lined up appearing to do a grid search?... notice there is a white Ford SUV parked in front...

Thank you, searchinGirl, for this news, more info for the map.

Yes, Thank You for sharing, searchinGirl.. This is excellent news that NOCO Task Force investigators seem to be hot on the serial shooter's trail, due to a citizen/s tip...imo.. I've never seen seen that many multi agency LEOs lined up on a street, shoulder to shoulder before, except during riots..
Is the LEO on the right side of the street searching a trash can?

 

[Foxfire]

http://www.9news.com/story/news/2015/06/25/northern-colorado-shootings/29279295/

Shooting task force investigates lead in Loveland

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The FBI and investigators with the task force looking into a series of Northern Colorado shootings descended on Thursday to a neighborhood park in Loveland, following up on a lead and spurring a media blitz and even a hospital lockdown.

Approximately 24 investigators spent much of Thursday picking through grass, climbing into trees and using metal detectors to search for evidence at Allendale Park near the intersection of 18th Street and Chelsea Drive in Loveland. The park is tucked in a residential area just a few blocks away from where a person reported last week they had been shot at on June 3, the same night a man was killed while walking in Loveland.

David Moore, task force spokesman, confirmed they were investigating a lead, but he would not elaborate what sort of evidence was sought.

 

[Hatfield]

Yes, Thank You for sharing, searchinGirl.. This is excellent news that NOCO Task Force investigators seem to be hot on the serial shooter's trail, due to a citizen/s tip...imo.. I've never seen seen that many multi agency LEOs lined up on a street, shoulder to shoulder before, except during riots..
Is the LEO on the right side of the street searching a trash can?

I agree this is great news they are actively searching for evidence.

To me, it appears they looking for a shell casing or the projectile itself.

So we here at WS are on the right track too with all our discussions.

And you were right Foxfire that many tips flooded into them once they released the info on the truck.

I just hope that LE begins to realize that they can use the public much more quicker than their past policies. I understand they need to keep some stuff under wraps but I think they can flip it around entirely.

Like instead of thinking what little bit they can dribble out to the public, how about thinking what little bit they have to keep under wraps and give us the rest so we can help LE catch criminals like this sooner.

I appreciate your continued awareness and realization that the public can be LE best weapon in fighting crime when it is utlized.

 

[searchinGirl]

Foxfire, the same thing immediately crossed my mind. It is indeed odd/interesting to me that some agencies can not be named publicly. I've never seen this stated in a case here before, have you guys?

I have been thinking long and hard about the other possible agencies that could be involved, and why they might not be named. Since LE has stated that this anonymity is in order to protect the integrity of the investigation, I will refrain from speculating on this aspect, but I did want to ask you guys out of curiosity's sake if you've ever seen in a PC LE openly state they can not name the other agencies involved.

This case / thread is unique in many ways from most of the other cases we see here on ws imo...it is an interesting change of pace from an investigative stand-point, as far as my approach in a missing person's case, but perhaps the one common factor is the importance of mapping, and perhaps awareness space...is awareness space a strong consideration in a case like this? I'm not so sure if it applies as much here, or does it? Do you guys think the perp(s) might shoot in his own backyard, or do you think he might take a trip/excursion further from his awareness space? I still think there's a strong chance that he could be in the area for work...jmo


Link to article about awareness space / Jessica R's case:
http://www.boulderweekly.com/articl...ss-lsawareness-spacers-may-lead-to-clues.html

Margarita...this is a very good post...thought provoking...an excellent article about geographic profiling...and regarding what the task force has to say...it's like they are saying its useless for us to speculate and theorize because there is so much we don't know but keep on speculating and please do keep calling in those leads...

 

[Foxfire]

Margarita...this is a very good post...thought provoking...an excellent article about geographic profiling...and regarding what the task force has to say...it's like they are saying its useless for us to speculate and theorize because there is so much we don't know but keep on speculating and please do keep calling in those leads...

So true on both counts...imo

 

[Forager]

On 6/23/15, Eric Ortiz of NBC News Denver did a piece in which he included the first public reporting on a 4/25/15 incident in which Donna Sharp's car was hit something that left a deep pock mark in the steel of her rear left door frame. Thru correspondence with the reporter, and with the victim's permission, I was able to get two additional photos and more precision on time and location, enabling me to map the incident.

The victim was driving north on I-25 just south of the exit for Hwy 14 (East Mulberry) in Ft. Collins at between 12:00 and 1:30 PM on Saturday afternoon, 4/25/15. "It was loud! I made a police report with Ft. Collins #15-3234." When she looked around, she didn't see any other car, but is convinced the quarter-inch dent came from a bullet and not random debris.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/J98VrpGD4dKWbsMEsMlXuKcV7r4fBPlOrmyQxrG7fUo=w436-h410-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3HVAfGcuh5ngdpqkpAMzEUx15UPn6mvq-ZwiKDjQSk8=w969-h701-no

The incident is marked (for now) by a big yellow teardrop to make it stand out.

Map Link



Link to Ortiz' NBC piece:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...y-shooter-release-pickup-truck-sketch-n380501

 

[Foxfire]

Wow! 'Great job Forager'!... Thank you very much for your diligence tracking down the photos and info to insure the accuracy of the mapping info...

 

[Foxfire]

I agree this is great news they are actively searching for evidence.

To me, it appears they looking for a shell casing or the projectile itself.

So we here at WS are on the right track too with all our discussions.

And you were right Foxfire that many tips flooded into them once they released the info on the truck. [/B]

I just hope that LE begins to realize that they can use the public much more quicker than their past policies. I understand they need to keep some stuff under wraps but I think they can flip it around entirely.

Like instead of thinking what little bit they can dribble out to the public, how about thinking what little bit they have to keep under wraps and give us the rest so we can help LE catch criminals like this sooner.

I appreciate your continued awareness and realization that the public can be LE best weapon in fighting crime when it is utlized.

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Thank you for the kind words, Hatfield.. I feel it in my bones that investigators are rapidly and methodically closing in on the shooter/s.. Increased transparency in serial and other high priority investigations is slowly moving in the right direction as statistics and the many successful high profile cases begin to reflect the value of communicating with the public, imo. I think your statement about LE utilizing the public earlier in the investigation and releasing all non critical info, with a couple of hold back items of evidence for interrogations, and to prevent false confessions is a great idea.

 

[Foxfire]

http://larimersheriff.org/press-release/task-force-update

Task Force Update

On June 25, 2015, at approximately 8:30 am, the task force evidence recovery team responded to the area of 18th Street and Chelsea Drive in Loveland to follow up on leads from tips they have received. As discussed earlier this week at the media briefing, late last week a person reported to the task force they were shot at in the area of Denver Avenue and East Eisenhower Boulevard. Task force investigators conducted canvasses and interviews of potential witnesses in that area. Today, the task force is continuing their investigation in the area.

Investigators will continue to follow up on leads and tips as they have been since this task force investigation began. To maintain the integrity of the investigation, details of these tips, leads, and evidence sought and/or recovered will not be released.

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