CO - Possible Serial Shooter Has Colorado Drivers on Edge #3

[Forager]

Have you guys seen this already?

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/...or-highways-in-southwestern-michigan/34945528


Shots reported along major highways in southwestern Michigan
The incidents occurred between July 29 and Aug. 21

TEKONSHA, Mich. -
Authorities in southwestern Michigan are investigating reports of shots being fired at cars on Interstate 94 and Interstate 69.
The Calhoun County sheriff's office says the damage is being blamed on "projectiles." But a closer look at some vehicles confirms that damage is related to gunshots.
The incidents occurred between July 29 and Aug. 21 in Calhoun and Branch counties. No injuries have been reported.
Officers from many agencies are working on the case. Anyone with information can call (269) 781-9700.

No, I have been trying to identify cases like that, but hadn't seen that one. Thanks for pointing it out. I've been trying to establish what's 'normal' for on road shootings and shatterings, and have been summarizing "clusters" of two or more that have occurred since 2013. I've put them on a layer of our case map. (It's the last layer in the list on the left of the screen, labeled "Hwy. Shootings Cluster Summary". The layer is normally turned off. Turn it "on" with a click). I've added your report to it at the bottom of the list (the order is chronological by start date). It's the pink star in MI.

The NOCO series is the longest and largest by far, with more than 31 incidents. The Mohammed Whitaker case, that Foxfire mentioned in a post below, comes in second with up to 20 separate shootings. Two unsolved series are tied for third place - one in Jefferson County, CO from 2013 and another from the Rochester area of NY in 2014 with about 10. I've been able to identify 24 groupings of two or more, but am sure I've missed some smaller ones.

It's hard to generalize about them. Some are mysterious and long running, while some are one day rampages that usually end in a death or arrest. In general, fortunately, they result in few injuries and only rarely in fatalities. It's just hard to hit a person in a moving vehicle.

 

[Foxfire]

Have you guys seen this already?

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/...or-highways-in-southwestern-michigan/34945528


Shots reported along major highways in southwestern Michigan
The incidents occurred between July 29 and Aug. 21



TEKONSHA, Mich. -
Authorities in southwestern Michigan are investigating reports of shots being fired at cars on Interstate 94 and Interstate 69.

The Calhoun County sheriff's office says the damage is being blamed on "projectiles." But a closer look at some vehicles confirms that damage is related to gunshots.

The incidents occurred between July 29 and Aug. 21 in Calhoun and Branch counties. No injuries have been reported.

Officers from many agencies are working on the case. Anyone with information can call (269) 781-9700.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Calhoun-County-Sheriffs-Office-Michigan/732356733459750
Calhoun County Sheriff's Office, Michigan <facebook>
Yesterday at 1:20pm ·
MEDIA RELEASE
8/26/2015
On August 26, 2015, the Calhoun County Major Crimes Task Force was activated to investigate incidents that have occurred on Interstate I-94 and Interstate I-69. The Calhoun County Sheriff’s Office and the Michigan State Police have responded to several calls of motor vehicles sustaining damage from projectiles. As the investigation progressed, detectives believe that the damage in some cases was consistent with a firearm. Lab results from forensic evidence from one of the vehicles are also consistent with a firearm. The reported incidents have occurred on I-94 between 11 Mile Road and Interstate I-69.
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[margarita25]

Driver's windshield shattered by BB or pellet gun
http://www.9news.com/story/news/2015/08/28/driver-windshield-shattered-pellet-gun/71288018/

"KUSA - A Thornton woman's windshield is partially shattered after she says someone fired a gun at her car while driving to work Wednesday afternoon.

Erie Police said it was a BB or pellet gun that damaged her car on Highway 52 near County Road 3."

Snip

"He was pointing his gun at my car," said Vialpando.

The Thornton mother of three said a male passenger in a white pickup truck who was driving in front of her, pulled himself out of the window and pulled out a gun."

 

[margarita25]

"Erie Police told 9NEWS the shooting is not connected with others we've seen in recent months.
Erie officials did notify the Larimer County Sheriff's Office task force in charge of investigating the other shootings, but they do not believe this incident is connected."

http://www.9news.com/story/news/2015/08/28/driver-windshield-shattered-pellet-gun/71288018/

 

[margarita25]

"Driver says someone shot at her vehicle in Thornton" (Photo: KUSA)
*"In Thornton" appears to be an error. I think they mean Erie. The lady is from Thornton (further south).

"Erie Police said the shot that hit and partially shattered the windshield, was possibly a BB or pellet gun, but that the shooting is still concerning."

http://www.9news.com/story/news/2015/08/28/driver-windshield-shattered-pellet-gun/71288018/

 

[FindHG]

"Erie Police told 9NEWS the shooting is not connected with others we've seen in recent months.
Erie officials did notify the Larimer County Sheriff's Office task force in charge of investigating the other shootings, but they do not believe this incident is connected."

http://www.9news.com/story/news/2015/08/28/driver-windshield-shattered-pellet-gun/71288018/

That sounds so similar to the driver and passenger duo whose video was posted months ago with the passenger hanging out the window seen taking a shot.

 

[margarita25]

Here again, the "unrelated" stamp seems to have been applied almost immediately (it's only been just over 24 hours...). Again, the same questions: how do they know that this is unrelated, and so quickly, especially after this lady actually seems to have seen with her own eyes someone pointing a gun at her?

This latest incident in Erie is particularly interesting to me and potentially significant imo, for a variety of reasons:

1. As mentioned above, there is now a witness that has actually seen a man pointing a gun on her on the road.

2. I'm almost positive that I mentioned Erie as a possible area of interest / awareness space, as it stood out to me on the map in the beginning of all this iirc. (Find and add link)

3. Erie was also mentioned re: some shattering incidents from last year iirc, as well as mentioned re: some youths iirc?

4. There are other shatterings fairly near to this location, iirc.

5. This area is very similar imo to the location where Jacoby was shot, as far as landscape/terrain, etc. (It looks just like the photos footwarrior posted imo).

6. I'm sure I mentioned CR 1 as a possible travel route (suggested by my friend). The above incident was listed as being near CR 3.

7. Hwy 52 is significant because it takes you right to I25 at Dacono. It also directly crosses Hwy 287 which I've mentioned several times in relation to having no incidents, knock on wood, and being a potential travel route); Hwy 287 runs parallel to I25.

8. I am on these back roads at least a couple days a week, and on Hwy 52 almost daily. I was on this road today.

9. There is a possible vehicle description (white truck), and confirmation of a single perp in this instance.

10. Movement South.

11. Wednesday again.

12. I think Erie is split between two counties, Weld and Boulder...remember, so far there hasn't been much in Boulder Co.

13. If related, getting more brazen? (Visibly pointing gun / possibly expanding into/near Boulder County)

14. If not related, then we obviously have a copycat, right? Unless it was a road rage type of incident?


*If I've made any mistakes in this post, please forgive me as I am very tired.

*I don't like this incident anymore than I like any of the other incidents. I am very concerned.

*Everything is JMO.

 

[margarita25]

That sounds so similar to the driver and passenger duo whose video was posted months ago with the passenger hanging out the window seen taking a shot.

So many incidents, they're running together...could you please post a link if you get a chance, my memory seems to be failing at this moment. Tia.

*I am sooooo glad you guys are here. Thank you.

 

[FindHG]

So many incidents, they're running together...could you please post a link if you get a chance, my memory seems to be failing at this moment. Tia.

*I am sooooo glad you guys are here. Thank you.

Will do. I'll look for it. Had posted screenshots from the video, IIRC, but all those attachments seem gone, at the moment. Thank you magz, for everything.


Repeated quote to mark reference:

"The Thornton mother of three said a male passenger in a white pickup truck who was driving in front of her, pulled himself out of the window and pulled out a gun."


http://www.9news.com/story/news/2015/08/28/driver-windshield-shattered-pellet-gun/71288018/

 

[margarita25]

So, IF these shatterings are related to JJ and CR and possibly Connole and the other shot missed, why use a bb/pellet in some, and actual ammo in others? (Taunting? Testing? Variety?)

And how do they know this latest instance in Erie was a bb/pellet specifically...did they recover it?

"Erie Police said it was a BB or pellet gun that damaged her car on Highway 52 near County Road 3."

"This is where the initial shot was," said Roselee Vialpando as she pointed to a small hole in her windshield."

http://www.9news.com/story/news/2015/08/28/driver-windshield-shattered-pellet-gun/71288018/

*if they did not recover the pellet, a small hole could also be from a .22 right?

 

[FindHG]

So, IF these shatterings are related to JJ and CR and possibly Connole and the other shot missed, why use a bb/pellet in some, and actual ammo in others? (Taunting? Testing? Variety?)

And how do they know this latest instance in Erie was a bb/pellet specifically...did they recover it?

"Erie Police said it was a BB or pellet gun that damaged her car on Highway 52 near County Road 3."

"This is where the initial shot was," said Roselee Vialpando as she pointed to a small hole in her windshield."

http://www.9news.com/story/news/2015/08/28/driver-windshield-shattered-pellet-gun/71288018/

*if they did not recover the pellet, a small hole could also be from a .22 right?

A .22 may gave done more damage, possibly and left evidence, whereas a BB or pellet may shatter and bounce and not be found, but that's just a guess.

 

[margarita25]

A .22 may gave done more damage, possibly and left evidence, whereas a BB or pellet may shatter and bounce and not be found, but that's just a guess.

Makes sense. My brain is jello at this point.

So, could this be the case with the other shatterings (bb shatters/bounces)? (Going round in circles, lol). Some of those were huge holes though...

This incident is different from the other shatterings in the sense that 1. The hole is small, and the whole window didn't blow out . 2. This lady actually saw somebody pointing a gun.
(Remember the slingshot?)

Odd how he was in front of her:
"The Thornton mother of three said a male passenger in a white pickup truck who was driving in front of her, pulled himself out of the window and pulled out a gun."
(So, did he turn around and fire? Or he was initially in front then moved?)

I'll be taking a closer look at every white pickup truck now, lol.

Thinking out loud re: the geography of the incidents, I'm wondering if this perp lives in Longmont.

 

[margarita25]

Hey, if this woman had not seen the man pointing the gun, would this too have been chalked up to be "road debris"?

 

[Foxfire]

A .22 may gave done more damage, possibly and left evidence, whereas a BB or pellet may shatter and bounce and not be found, but that's just a guess.

Remember, there would be no visible evidence if 22 cal. frangibles are being used.. A firearm being used in the MI shootings was not determined until Lab results from forensic evidence from one of the vehicles was consistent with a firearm.

22 cal. Cabela's 50&#8209;Round Ammo Boxes
$3.99 - Cabela's

 

[FindHG]

Remember, there would be no visible evidence if 22 cal. frangibles are being used.. A firearm being used in the MI shootings was not determined until Lab results from forensic evidence from one of the vehicles was consistent with a firearm.

22 cal. Cabela's 50&#8209;Round Ammo Boxes
$3.99 - Cabela's

Yep. Sounds right, frangibles, not a dessert, but shatter on impact leave no evidence bullets. Leaves a white powdery residue, if I have it right?

 

[FindHG]

Makes sense. My brain is jello at this point.

So, could this be the case with the other shatterings (bb shatters/bounces)? (Going round in circles, lol). Some of those were huge holes though...

This incident is different from the other shatterings in the sense that 1. The hole is small, and the whole window didn't blow out . 2. This lady actually saw somebody pointing a gun.
(Remember the slingshot?)

Odd how he was in front of her:
"The Thornton mother of three said a male passenger in a white pickup truck who was driving in front of her, pulled himself out of the window and pulled out a gun."
(So, did he turn around and fire? Or he was initially in front then moved?)

I'll be taking a closer look at every white pickup truck now, lol.

Thinking out loud re: the geography of the incidents, I'm wondering if this perp lives in Longmont.

Definitely plugged in locals, to be able to time and place themselves so well, over time and a number of incidents, if not all. Choosing a woman to shoot at would mean they fear being and account for the fear of being chased down. So, they pick and stalk their victim for placement and timing in one general geographical area. Again, this makes me think that there's a chance there are more people involved somehow, to assist with selection and timing. Being local, the areas they pick would most probably be less situation near where they live than more, to avoid recognition, by chance, yet easily accessible through back roads. They may also be set up to ditch and switch cars. A group egging each other on, possibly. This is just wide speculation, so please take as such.

 

[Foxfire]

Yep. Sounds right, frangibles, not a dessert, but shatter on impact leave no evidence bullets. Leaves a white powdery residue, if I have it right?

FindHG, we have done so much research on the various types of frangibles and the many different brands which all have different disintegration characteristics. Some leave virtually no trace, some a brown powdery substance, while others leave a white powder residue and a small copper pellet after breaking up, similar to a BB.

Whether related or not, the Erie shooter is very brazen and seemed to be attempting to cause the victim to wreck.. When a windshield shatters, the visibility of the driver is negligible.. One can only imagine the possible tragic consequences..

 

[FindHG]

FindHG, we have done so much research on the various types of frangibles and the many different brands which all have different disintegration characteristics. Some leave virtually no trace, some a brown powdery substance, while others leave a white powder residue and a small copper pellet after breaking up, similar to a BB.

Whether related or not, the Erie shooter is very brazen and seemed to be attempting to cause the victim to wreck.. When a windshield shatters, the visibility of the driver is negligible..

Yes, very brazen. Considering the highway is well observed.

Police find truck that hit several bridges on I-25
By Hsing Tseng, KDVR/FOX31,
10:00 pm, August 21 15

Please, note the images in the link above

So many incidents, they're running together...could you please post a link if you get a chance, my memory seems to be failing at this moment. Tia.

*I am sooooo glad you guys are here. Thank you.

I know I posted the links to the video from a FOX31 news segment. It was before Mr. John Jacoby was murdered, but I'm not finding the MSM links or the thread posts, yet.

 

[margarita25]

I just noticed this / BBM:

"Roselee pulled over and called police, who are looking for the suspects, but don't have much to go on. She couldn't get the license plate number before the truck drove away."

Typo, or more than one perp?

Eta: DUH BRAINFART POST

 

[margarita25]

BBM:

FindHG, we have done so much research on the various types of frangibles and the many different brands which all have different disintegration characteristics. Some leave virtually no trace, some a brown powdery substance, while others leave a white powder residue and a small copper pellet after breaking up, similar to a BB.

Whether related or not, the Erie shooter is very brazen and seemed to be attempting to cause the victim to wreck.. When a windshield shatters, the visibility of the driver is negligible.. One can only imagine the possible tragic consequences..

I agree. Could this be how he gets his thrills? The thrill of causing and watching a wreck. Again, seems "video gamish" to me, jmo. Just a thought, could he be recording these incidents to play back and get a thrill from?