CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #11

[Kabelle]

There are no facts yet of what happen to the children. So let’s blame the dad!

Well, he confessed and he knew where the bodies were. It’s a reasonable conclusion that he is guilty.

 

[bluesneakers]

But wouldn't she have indicated that as her reason for alerting LE?
She has done interviews since the murder and also has spoken to LE. Wouldn't LE take that into account before charging Chris?

We've seen what happens when someone goes missing and LE has reason to believe the person might harm themselves. Yet no one got that warning about SW.

 

[Waterdog]

You should definitely be posting more then
No one has picked that detail up - over 11 threads.

Wow, dirtdigger. You dug up some dirt there!! Yeah, CW, what was so traumatic last the *few" days??? Hmmmmm? Let me guess!

 

[DAdvocate]

But wouldn't she have indicated that as her reason for alerting LE?
She has done interviews since the murder and also has spoken to LE. Wouldn't LE take that into account before charging Chris?

If she believed it, maybe she didn’t want to tell them to make it look bad on SW. IMO

 

[Deleted member 134862]

There are no facts yet of what happen to the children. So let’s blame the dad!

I am pretty sure there is video evidence of him lying to multiple sources about not knowing where Shan'ann was, when in fact he DID. In addition, he lied about not knowing where Bella and Celeste were. He DID. Video of him LYING.He also confessed to murdering Shan'ann and Niko to the authorities.
I am sure when the justice system metes out it's verdict they will have to weigh this against popular commentary like "THOSE EYES".So sad. IMHO

 

[DAdvocate]

I wasn't familiar with him, so I googled to get the info.

Within the article something struck me, and as we know there is a little bit of Truth to everything somebody says. The quote was

"Chris Watts spoke out the day before his arrest in an interview with 9News, in which he described the situation as “a nightmare that (he) just (couldn’t) wake up from.”

Smh... I'm back off the fence leaning more towards that he strangled her while she was sleeping and that she could not wake up from that.

Shanann Watts, 2 daughters likely strangled, records show

Sleepwalking killer?

 

[Shahana]

I'm new, good evening to you all. I've been in the background since the Helen Bailey and Sadie Hartley murders. I live in Spain, and am English. Like everyone across the world, and especially since I fear I was married to a CW type of character once upon a time, I've been reading in depth some posts ... so much to wade through... and admittedly speed read through a lot of other posts. I can't help but think, and this is just my opinion... How the heck did CW manage to do all of this on his own? He doesn't strike me as the most motivated person on this earth, quite laid back and from my observations, rather dull. He must have been quite jacked up on some or other substance. Or had some help somewhere along the line. IMO.

 

[Sleutherfly]

A lot of people have noticed CW wasn't wearing his wedding ring. In his line of work, I think it's very normal to not wear a ring but the fact he didn't wear it in his interviews, since I imagine he didn't work that day, is very telling. I wish the reporters would have asked about that. Even with a separation, it's normal for the spouse to take a while to stop wearing their ring. This to me shows that he couldn't wait to be "free." I bet he didn't wear it the whole time SW was away for 5 weeks.

I'm pretty sure now that his AP did know he was married but that he said he was separated. I think AP saw the interviews and immediately went to police or they found out about her when questioning his employer. I think CW deleted his FB so that AP wouldn't see SW when he joined her the last week of her family trip. I feel that the affair started around the time SW and CW got back from San Diego.

 

[RavenCC2020]

And SW's family and friends don't need to be made to feel even worse than they already do!

They certainly don't! But cause and affect. One's actions result in an equal and opposite reaction. They jury will make him pay for his callousness.

 

[SheepMan]

No way. She would know darn well that he had no legal way to take the kids. She would get primary custody because she is the one who had been staying home and caring for them. There is no way she would have 'flipped' and strangled them, just because of a hollow threat.

If you think about it, it is more likely she said she was going and taking the kids. He even said as much. He said she told him she was taking the kids to a friends house. Kernel of truth in every lie told...


It is more likely they had an 'emotional conversation' and she said go ahead, go get with your new girlfriend, I'm taking the kids to NC and good luck , good riddance---and he is probably the one who 'flipped out' and decided to teach her a painful, horrible lesson.

Why would she get the kids - just because she was staying home. Maybe he wanted to stay home and look after them but she couldn’t earn enough to support the family. Sorry not an attack on you but I hate the way it’s assumed the mother will get custody because she looks after them whilst the lazy fathers go and earn the money to support everyone

 

[kimlynn]

If she believed it, maybe she didn’t want to tell them to make it look bad on SW. IMO

From everything I know she was said to have been happy and positive on her outlook.
Plus only one person walked out of that house alive. There is that. IMO

 

[Waterdog]

I haven't been on this site since the Jodi Arias trial. I don't ever post but just read. I don't know if this has been discussed or not but I have been watching the video interviews of CW and there is one where he is talking about "everything that's happening in the last few days" as being earth shattering. Later in the interview the woman states you saw her yesterday morning and he agrees by saying "yeah, I saw her yesterday morning...." If he had just seen her yesterday morning, what was so earth shattering in the "last few days"?

Ding ding!

 

[SheepMan]

I think it's interesting that she is accused of "wearing the pants" in her relationship, and simultaneously being accused of being capable of "killing her kids in spite" because she didn't want her husband to leave.

That makes no sense.

As someone who many would say "wears the pants" in my marriage, it wasn't me when my husband and I separated for a short while that was worried about him leaving. It was him worrying I'd meet someone before we figured everything out. It was him worrying what he would do without me. How would he handle the kids when it was his turn without me around? I never worried about that. You know why? Because I was used to being the one to run the household. I handled the finances, and 85% of the time, I was the one dealing with/taking care of the children. There were years that my husband worked so much and went to school full-time that it almost felt like I was a single parent. I lived that. It didn't terrify me. Especially not to the point that I would've done anything to keep him. He busted his butt to work on things. He did whatever he could to make the marriage work. A bit more so than I did.

That's why I can never buy that she would be so distraught over losing her husband. We have a verified friend on this forum that is confirming that SW ran the household and did the cooking, cleaning, and childcare. She may have loved him, but it sounds like she knew how to handle things on her own. She didn't NEED him. Maybe that's what incensed him the most.

Again just because someone can look after kids and cook and clean doesn’t mean they can do all that whilst working a full time job. I believe a person (any person) would be worried about taking on the other partners reaponsobilities whether that is home maker or main wage earner.

 

[Chelly]

Ummmmm. Diversion perhaps...... when the responder can't come up with a logical argument. Happens often.

So sorry to quote myself but must clarify. What I meant to say was: A person often uses a diversionary argument when that person cannot present a logical hypothesis, because an opposing one does not exist. Logic is on the side of reason.

 

[bluesneakers]

Why would she get the kids - just because she was staying home. Maybe he wanted to stay home and look after them but she couldn’t earn enough to support the family. Sorry not an attack on you but I hate the way it’s assumed the mother will get custody because she looks after them whilst the lazy fathers go and earn the money to support everyone

She would get the kids because she wasn't the type of person to murder them one night and then dump their bodies in oil tanks.

 

[DAdvocate]

Sleepwalking killer?

I think this needs to be added to the theories. He could have done this in his sleep and then awoke and then tried to cover his tracks.

Homicidal sleepwalking - Wikipedia

 

[SN76]

I agree with you. I don’t think we have heard her name yet.

It is out there, along with pics.

 

[cbs]

I dont remember anyone else mentioning this, I could be wrong, but holy cannoli!

I've watched CW interview numerous times and the way he passively attempts to correct himself when he refers to wanting SW to come back, disgusts me. He corrects himself quickly by saying he wants the kids back so bad. As if he remembers "Oh crap, AP is going to see this. I dont want her to think I care about SW"

@2:50 Corrects himself
@3:39 he only mentions wanting the kids to barrel rush him. Then goes on to say "that didn't happen." Why not say that "hasn't" happened? Oh RIGGGHT, because CW knew it wasn't ever going to happen because he killed them.
@7:45 reporter mentions to CW "You guys have a baby on the way?" CW immediately changed his demeanor, and did not seem to appreciate that being made public. Again, he didn't want AP to know.

Although he completely disgusts me, his brain fascinates and scares me all at the same time. It's crazy to think society is filled with people like him, but in actuality there are many many more people just like CW. Scary.

 

[SheepMan]

A lot of people have noticed CW wasn't wearing his wedding ring. In his line of work, I think it's very normal to not wear a ring but the fact he didn't wear it in his interviews, since I imagine he didn't work that day, is very telling. I wish the reporters would have asked about that. Even with a separation, it's normal for the spouse to take a while to stop wearing their ring. This to me shows that he couldn't wait to be "free." I bet he didn't wear it the whole time SW was away for 5 weeks.

I'm pretty sure now that his AP did know he was married but that he said he was separated. I think AP saw the interviews and immediately went to police or they found out about her when questioning his employer. I think CW deleted his FB so that AP wouldn't see SW when he joined her the last week of her family trip. I feel that the affair started around the time SW and CW got back from San Diego.

Yep I am a farmer and neither my wife or I have worn our wedding rings since a few days after we married. It doesn’t mean either of us is cheating or about to murder the other, it’s just a personal choice somewhat influenced by our line of work. I don’t read anything into him not wearing it

 

[CM0709]

If she believed it, maybe she didn’t want to tell them to make it look bad on SW. IMO

I posted before a family member didn't respond when they were supposed to be somewhere and none of us could get in contact. I was on my way and calling the police at the same time and never once did I think she harmed herself I though her narcissistic sociopath ex had done something to her much in the same way I bet NU felt happened to SW on top of the medical issues. Someone who always responds and then doesn't respond is a huge red flag.