CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #11

[SaguaroSpirit]

Was there maybe more to his plan? Like he thought he could get home early and get rid of some of her stuff?

That's why it's so great that SW's bestie got LE over there as soon as she did so he couldn't get rid of evidence and stage the scene.

 

[Jax49]

He looks so genuinely happy. Pleased and proud.

I wonder if he looked this happy on his wedding day, or when his daughters were born.

What a .

Can you imagine being on the jury and seeing those photos at the same time the autopsy photos are displayed? He's done. IMNSHO

 

[Layla123]

Maybe he smothered her with a pillow. We don't actually know she was strangled. jmo

But he’d know they were going to perform an autopsy. Would he really lie about COD?

 

[Jennifer17]

But he’d know they were going to perform an autopsy. Would he really lie about COD?

I don't think he is very bright.

 

[SaguaroSpirit]

But he’d know they were going to perform an autopsy. Would he really lie about COD?

He maybe thought she would never be found, or found too late for a COD to be determined.

 

[Bill Carson]

I think you're right.

CW offering up strangulation as mode of death might have been pressured out of him by LE, and to convince them he witnessed SW murder the girls via the monitor.

I certainly hope we had a competent interrogation team, since the Colorado Bureau of Investigations and the FBI were involved. In the past, you would get false confessions because a mentally and emotionally exhausted person can't stand up to the tricks of the interrogators. They can start suggesting certain facts, and the suspect will go along with them just to get the interrogation over with, and sometimes the suspect incorporates those suggested facts into their own false memory, creating in their own mind things that never occured. I'm pretty sure this is not the case here.

 

[molly1255]

My first thought was semen from a rendezvous with the AP.

I have also thought about that. I wouldn't be surprised if AP had been inside the house, when SW and the little girls were out of town.

I really hope that she believed he was at least separated. For her sake, because if not, that would be very hard to live with, I would think. I think to this day Amber Frey is very troubled about her relationship with Scott Peterson, and I am of the belief she truly believed he was single. JMO.

 

[Allabouttrial]

I certainly hope we had a competent interrogation team, since the Colorado Bureau of Investigations and the FBI were involved. In the past, you would get false confessions because a mentally and emotionally exhausted person can't stand up to the tricks of the interrogators. They can start suggesting certain facts, and the suspect will go along with them just to get the interrogation over with, and sometimes the suspect incorporates those suggested facts into their own false memory, creating in their own mind things that never occured. I'm pretty sure this is not the case here.

It blows my mind, how an innocent person can confess.

 

[PommyMommy]

Was there maybe more to his plan? Like he thought he could get home early and get rid of some of her stuff?

Either that, or he had planned to cover up that morning, but ran out of time since her flight was late. JMO

 

[kkdj]

My hubby would never allow me to visit my family for 6 weeks away from him. I think they were already separated but still living under the same roof.

 

[Bill Carson]

Not a headline. We cannot link to FB pages but here is what her brother said, verbatim. "That may he rot in hell.He killed my pregnant sister and my two nieces". Please do not trivialize his statement as just a headline that somehow people misinterpret. He is closer to the source than you are. He kniws the truth. This is not his only comment where he says CW killed his entire family.

Brother may have inside information from the police, or he may be drawing conclusions in an extremely emotional state. I take what he says with a grain of salt. I agree with his conclusion, "He killed my pregnant sister and my two neices," but I don't know whether this is his conclusion from the information that we all have, or if he has special, additional information that is reliable. Just sayin'....

 

[Seattle1]

Chelly,

It is possible that CW made a separate confession that we are not privy to, but the version of a "confession" that is set out in the Affidavit is not really a confession at all. I think those LE sources were jumping the gun or they were drawing unnecessary conclusions. I mean, we know for certain that the confession listed in the affidavit does not match the charges against him.

The warrantless arrest affidavit is very concise in relation to this horrific crime, and I agree it does not contain every detail that's been cited in court, in press conferences, news broadcasts, and/or published by MSN citing LE close to the investigation.

There are several reports that CW statements were inconsistent - investigators interviewing CW on site say he told them one account of when he last talked to SW, and told a different account at the police station. We know reporters tweeted CW arriving at police station around the noon hour on Weds, and that LE announced he was arrested shortly after midnight. These details also not detailed in the arrest affidavit but no reason to believe they're untrue. I certainly don't think CW was reading magazines in the Police lobby for 12 hours even though the details of his interrogation not released in arrest affidavit. We also know that LE located bed sheet matching bed linen pattern found at the residence, and also located alleged burial site of SW prior to CW confession (citing drone in use). LE also cite they confirmed CW alleged affair with co-worker before CW finally confessed (having previously denied allegation). Bottom line is much obviously went down during those hours at police station that we don't have knowledge of, and I never expected the affidavit to be the complete and final word. MOO

 

[Layla123]

He maybe thought she would never be found, or found too late for a COD to be determined.

I thought he said that they were all strangled and gave the location of their bodies during the same confession.

 

[SaguaroSpirit]

I have also thought about that. I wouldn't be surprised if AP had been inside the house, when SW and the little girls were out of town.

I really hope that she believed he was at least separated. For her sake, because if not, that would be very hard to live with, I would think. I think to this day Amber Frey is very troubled about her relationship with Scott Peterson, and I am of the belief she truly believed he was single. JMO.

Plus, I think she realizes she would have "disappeared" too when Scotty Potty got tired of her.

 

[PommyMommy]

My hubby would never allow me to visit my family for 6 weeks away from him. I think they were already separated but still living under the same roof.

I wondered about that, but don't you think she would have told NUA, her mom, or someone?

 

[NanZDrew]

Night time scene of the Watts home as investigators tow the truck of Chris Watts

Night time scene of the Watts home as investigators tow the truck of Chris Watts

Night time scene of the Watts home as investigators tow the truck of Chris Watts

This keeps bugging me. I hear that this brown Ford is Anadarko's truck. All of the Anadarko trucks that I have ever seen are white with "Anadarko" running down the side in blue letters on them. That is especially true of those who have to travel from site to site as CW did. They don’t have fancy trucks to use taking field equipment and where they are going to get dirty. The trucks would be trashed in no time at all. This vehicle that is being towed looks like a personal vehicle. Some companies that provide company trucks keep them on the jobsite. (Protects the employer against liabilities such as having the employee drive to a bar in their truck after hours and etc). In these cases, the employee drives their personal vehicle to work, leaves it parked, and picks up a company truck to use while performing their work. I am wondering if this is the case with Anadarko. Did Chris haul the bodies in his personal truck out to the job site, dump them, report in to work and pick up a company truck to do his job in? If so there would not have been a company GPS in his personal truck although most newer models like his do have a GPS built in to the vehicle (I think). The gate at the well site would still likely have either a key card or a pad to punch in a code that could have proved he was there. Anybody know how Anadarko does this in CO? I think the truck that we saw being towed was his personal truck that he got with the $800 per month car allowance from Le-Vel. He couldn’t have gotten $800 for a company owned truck. There are strict laws on company vehicle use through the IRS. When I have had company cars, we had to track our personal and business miles. There may be certain loopholes around this, but basically the IRS sees your personal miles on a business vehicle as income.

 

[SaguaroSpirit]

I thought he said that they were all strangled and gave the location of their bodies during the same confession.

Before he got caught, he thought he was going to get away with the murders.

 

[Layla123]

Before he got caught, he thought he was going to get away with the murders.

That’s the part that’s driving me crazy! I wish I could make sense of it. His “emotional discussion” admission sounds like a preplanned idea he had that would make her disappearance sound understandable, sort of. He thought he could convince people that when he said he wanted a separation, Shanann told him he’d never see her and the kids again, and she took off. And then when Nicole Utlof came knocking and messed up all his plans, he kept parts of his original story and improvised in places where his preplanned story didn’t fit the new circumstances.

 

[Tigerlily75]

Let’s ignore those who don’t agree. Great way of discussing the case.

People often use ignore for those who are just here to mess around and play narcissistic games, aka a troll who is just trying to get a rise out of people, not people who provide thoughtful, reasonable, plausible and intelligent commentary, no matter which angle they're exploring.

For example, some like to explore all the possible scenarios, based on actual evidence presented so far, and do so within the bounds of reason. Then there are those who just post nonsense like "THOSE EYES" and conclude from that that SW killed her children, and go on to present theories out of thin air for which there is no evidence on the table, like "sleepwalking". Those people you can't really take seriously and people might consider that they add nothing of value to the discussion, hence the ignore button.

 

[kkdj]

C'mon now. The emotional discussion was her buckling at the knees knowing her daughters were dead and she was next.