CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #13

[human]

I am curious about the Thrive patch. She has lupus and fibromyalgia. She is pregnant.

No,problem with using these patches where none of the ingredients are certified? A doctor would say it was all right?

 

[bluesneakers]

I would expect the prosecution to use any affairs Watts had to bolster their case against him.

Based just on the evidence we have so far, and the fact that LE knows of at least one affair, I don't think they'll need him. Plus bringing in all his old lovers would turn the trial into a sideshow. I hope they don't do it.

 

[Hazelnutty]

I can only imagine. When I was having my wisdom teeth removed, I came to and heard the dental assistants and oral surgeon complaining bitterly about a difficult patient. They saw I was coming to and reassured me they weren't talking about me and then continued ranting.

How funny! I was also having wisdom teeth removed and woke up too soon. The dentist surgeon & the assistant were arguing about their sex life. I was afraid to open my eyes & interrupt. After listening a few more min I discovered they were married and this day was their honeymoon . He was furious because she was menstruating on their anniversary.
I was open eyed and glaring at him by that point. She started crying . He made her leave the room & send someone else in. Jerk!

 

[Hazelnutty]

I am curious about the Thrive patch. She has lupus and fibromyalgia. She is pregnant.

No,problem with using these patches where none of the ingredients are certified? A doctor would say it was all right?

In one of her pics she has a patch on. Pointing at it. Pic labeled ' Dr approved ' she mentions being preg & more energy, etc. FB. Iirc

 

[MyBelle]

It doesn’t matter to me either. What DOES matter to me are these lying attention seekers coming out of the woodwork & everyone immediately believes them and no one in media bothers to verify.

Shake the tree and all you get are squirrels & a lot of nuts!

*edited to add; Who does this hurt? CW? No. He’s in jail. It hurts SW’s family.
This squirrel was saying a lot of mean things about her & personally, I think it sucks!

Hopefully her family will consider the source. Nothing can be any worse than CW telling LE that SW strangled her girls. Nothing can be any worse than CW dumping them in crude oil.

 

[bluesneakers]

I am curious about the Thrive patch. She has lupus and fibromyalgia. She is pregnant.

No,problem with using these patches where none of the ingredients are certified? A doctor would say it was all right?

LLL says unsafe:
Thrive W - LLL in VA/WV References

There's also this:
https://www.dietpillswatchdog.com/thrive-investigation/

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-thrive-experience-masterful-marketing-short-on-substance/

 

[borndem]

It all depends on the system, but if she had access to the account, she would get alerts on all motion activity. This would be very dangerous in the case of someone having an affair, or doing anything behind their partner's back.

Yes, but couldn't the person in the home disable it? I know that would look weird to her too, but if she called him about it, he could say it was on the fritz or some similar lie.

 

[Jacquie1]

Hopefully her family will consider the source. Nothing can be any worse than CW telling LE that SW strangled her girls. Nothing can be any worse than CW dumping them in crude oil.

True, but why keep victimizing them?
If I (not a professional) can research & poke holes in this “lovers” story in about 5 minutes of searching, WHY COULD’NT HLN before they put this j.o. On tv saying horrible things about a poor dead woman?
What if her family happened to be listening to this phony go on & on?

I keep the vision of SW’s dad breaking down in court in my head.... maybe others should too.

 

[MyBelle]

True, but why keep victimizing them?
If I (not a professional) can research & poke holes in this “lovers” story in about 5 minutes of searching, WHY COULD’NT HLN before they put this j.o. On tv saying horrible things about a poor dead woman?
What if her family happened to be listening to this phony go on & on?

I keep the vision of SW’s dad breaking down in court in my head.... maybe others should too.

HLN cares only about ratings.

 

[Jacquie1]

HLN cares only about ratings.

Clearly.

*Edited to add* But now other media outlets are picking up this story.

 

[Layla123]

It doesn’t matter to me either. What DOES matter to me are these lying attention seekers coming out of the woodwork & everyone immediately believes them and no one in media bothers to verify.

Shake the tree and all you get are squirrels & a lot of nuts!

*edited to add; Who does this hurt? CW? No. He’s in jail. It hurts SW’s family.
This squirrel was saying a lot of mean things about her & personally, I think it sucks!

Reminds me of Mark Geragos saying just because Scott Peterson was a cad, it didn’t make him a murderer. If this guy is real he may have info that will help the police, it’s a good thing that they interviewed him, tonight, if Ashley Banfield was telling the truth when she said that was happening. For whatever it’s worth, Steve Helling said on Ashley Banfield today that ex lover did reveal a few new bits of info that they didn’t already know, so he may be helpful.

 

[Allabouttrial]

LLL says unsafe:
Thrive W - LLL in VA/WV References

There's also this:
https://www.dietpillswatchdog.com/thrive-investigation/

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-thrive-experience-masterful-marketing-short-on-substance/

Although, that references the diet pills not the patch.

 

[KathrynL]

My mother in law, an aunt by marriage, a childhood friend and a couple opposing parties. It's a very rare condition according to a psychologist I spoke to about it so the fact that I have so many people in my life with it is unusual.

It's horrific. Gaslighting. "I never did or said that." It's ALWAYS everyone else's fault. Alternately idoiolizing and then totally hating the same person. Constant rages. Paranoia. Extreme selfishness. Inability to maintain any relationship of any kind. The boundary crossing is intense.

Having a beautiful closet is not a symptom. But that disorder is so horrible, it's not something to lightly diagnose a murder victim with when there is zero indication.

BPD usually comes from being very emotionally neglected and/or seriously abused. ALL the people I know with it had parents who were either absent or showed them no love. It's very, very sad.

It's a curse to them and not their fault but people with this condition are some of the most unpleasant, horrible people be around.

They have an incredible fear of abandonment but they are so horrible that invariably they end up alone.

It's caused a lot of pain in my life having to deal with it. I had to step in and help raise my brother in laws as a result. Despite our intervention and efforts to help the kids, all three ended up with serious problems and an inability to cope with life because their mother is so completely insane. She destroyed them.

Wow. I was raised by a mother like this. She was married to my father til the day he died, but the gaslighting, lack of boundaries, self-centered, paranoid. I did come to believe that she was the product of an extremely dysfunctional family-but after a lot of therapy and getting older. Two other close relatives seem to suffer from this as well, only worse. I feel blessed than I'm only a little bit crazy. It is so sad, because in my case these people could be so generous and kind-and mean and nasty the next minute. So very damaging to the friends and family around them. Thanks for your post, it is a comfort to those of us who live(d) through hell.

 

[Jacquie1]

Reminds me of Mark Geragos saying just because Scott Peterson was a cad, it didn’t make him a murderer. If this guy is real he may have info that will help the police, it’s a good thing that they interviewed him, tonight, if Ashley Banfield was telling the truth when she said that was happening. For whatever it’s worth, Steve Helling said on Ashley Banfield today that ex lover did reveal a few new bits of info that they didn’t already know, so he may be helpful.

AB said the “lover” had to cancel his interview on tonight’s show because he was about to “be interviewed by a woman FBI agent”

I hope if he’s lying they charge him with something.

 

[Jennifer17]

True, but why keep victimizing them?
If I (not a professional) can research & poke holes in this “lovers” story in about 5 minutes of searching, WHY COULD’NT HLN before they put this j.o. On tv saying horrible things about a poor dead woman?
What if her family happened to be listening to this phony go on & on?

I keep the vision of SW’s dad breaking down in court in my head.... maybe others should too.

He wasn't saying things about Shanann. He was telling about horrible things that the man who killed her and dumped her babies in crude oil said about her. Do you think that the man capable of those acts would not say things about her?

 

[bluesneakers]

Although, that references the diet pills not the patch.

Aren't the ingredients the same?

 

[Allabouttrial]

Aren't the ingredients the same?

Just looking into it now.

 

[KathrynL]

Too bad it can't be moved, oh I dunno, say driving distance from me

I'm close enough to go, but don't have the energy for a circus. Plus I hate driving the road to Greeley.

 

[bluesneakers]

AB said the “lover” had to cancel his interview on tonight’s show because he was about to “be interviewed by a woman FBI agent”

I hope if he’s lying they charge him with something.

What could they charge him with?

Or do you mean if he lies to LE?

 

[borndem]

Yeah that’s really terrible. Hopefully in the past 5 years your doctors protocol has changed. I wouldn’t feel comfortable if my doctor walked around discussing other patients test results in ear shot of other patients, and that’s certainly not news you want to hear over the phone. I’m glad my doctors have the “come into the office for results” policy even though it’s a PITA to have to go back.

It probably has to do with HPPA laws as well -- maybe the doc would not, or could not, leave a msg. on a phone due to HPPA confidentiality regulations. The nurse or assistant only says my first name when I am in the waiting room when it's my turn to see the doc. Same in the drug store. It's only "Susie, come on back," or "Prescription ready for Sally," etc.