Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #19

[human]

There were not multiple affairs. If you knew them it’s easy to understand. She had complete access to his phone. He was always on a schedule.

Can you tell us more what you think of them and why?

How could he put his kids in those tanks?

 

[Bill Carson]

Here is a link to SW's Instagram account, with a picture from April. This shows the backyard, the nature of the back fence, and just how close the houses being constructed behind them are. They have pretty much lost any scenic view from their deck, and I can't tell if you can still see the mountains over the houses being built.

Thrive Healthy Fit Mom on Instagram: “Enjoying this beautiful weather today! Today I’m thankful for friends! What are you thankful for today? #thankful #friends #friendship…”

 

[gitana1]

It is such a struggle for him to describe one simple loving memory of his children, and this is what he comes up with:

And it’s like, I mean last night, like during like at like you know when they usually eat dinner, it was just like I miss them. Like, I mean I miss the telling them like you got to eat that, like or you’re not going to get your dessert, or just, like you’re not going to get your snack, after, you know (laughs).

SMH. He's plastic.

I know. Whose best memory of their kids at a time of such grief is about telling them what to do? Wouldn't it be hugging them? Snuggling? Hearing them say, "I love you Daddy!"

 

[gitana1]

These are removed, long-term things to miss. They’d only been missing for a day. In which case most normal people would have been just missing them. Not missing random things like telling them to eat their veggies. IMO clearly actually some truth to it for him- like there will be a few memories he’ll have of his life with kids that he’ll kind of miss... but not really. Who misses telling kids to eat their veggies as the first thing that comes to mind?

Jinx!!

 

[searchinGirl]

I can say with absolute certainty there was never any domestic violence.

Did they argue or anything like that? Even over little things? DV isn’t always physical. A lot of it is manipulation and relationship dynamics. I think it would be rare if there were no signs at all leading up to this crime, which I believe under Colorado Law is considered a crime of domestic violence.

It appears CW underwent a significant body change recently did he workout a lot? Did he use supplements other than Thrive? Thanks again.

 

[pocketaccent]

I think he’s the first but when he was interrogated he was cornered especially with the matching sheet to the bedding found in the trash at the house and the neighbors video footage of him backing into the garage. These detectives press hard in that little room. He then probably asked to speak to his Dad. LE is really good at what they do. I think CW waited until SW and kids were asleep and caught them off guard. That’s why no screams no struggle and no mess. After all she was pregnant, tired, not feeling well and got in at 2am. Her unpacked suitcase was found at the bottom of the stairs along with shoes. I’m sure she went upstairs quietly and crashed maybe had a short conversation with CW then fell asleep. Why would CW ask for a separation at 2am and not later in the day why the rush? I don’t believe his story. I think he waited until SW fell asleep when he strangled her. If the girls weren’t already dead I’m sure they were asleep. Being a mom myself coming in at 2am I would have come in quiet as a mouse as not to wake my kids. All JMO

I agree with your scenario, that he waited until CW fell asleep. And that she didn't check on the girls. So late, so tired and sleepy.

I'm starting to think that the girls were dead already when she got home.

Because I wonder why did it had to be that morning he chose to kill her. Why not wait another day or two when he didn't have to wait until 2 am for her to get home.

 

[NuttMegg]

Surely he could have another secret phone, Shanann having access to his phone would not mean no affairs

Anyone can go down to walmart and buy a private use cell phone without a plan. Aren't they called burner phones?

 

[Sark06]

There were not multiple affairs. If you knew them it’s easy to understand. She had complete access to his phone. He was always on a schedule.

Could you see any thing in his character that could explain the remorseless callous dumping of the bodies of his babies in oil?

 

[katydid23]

There were not multiple affairs. If you knew them it’s easy to understand. She had complete access to his phone. He was always on a schedule.

She was out of state for 5 weeks. That gave him plenty of time snd freedom for multiple affairs.

 

[Bill Carson]

I also wanted to point out that (AFAICT) it has not been verified that SW could monitor the video baby monitor from her smartphone. Somebody initially suggested one of the pictures looked like her smartphone, but then they corrected and said upon closer look, it appeared the picture was of the baby monitor (receiver) on her nightstand. So the whole conversation about whether SW could see the babies while she was on the airplane or driving from the airport to home seem premature. But go ahead and sleuth that stuff if you don't have anything better to do.

 

[MerryB]

Care to clarify that? Did you think she left him or what?

Because her car never left the house.

I think we know what Trinket is implying here.
Let’s not jump on her while she is waiting to be verified. Let’s stay polite and open-minded.
Understandably, Trinket is concerned about her privacy. This is a sensitive matter & she has a controversial opinion.
I, for one, would like to hear it.

 

[Seattle1]

I know. Whose best memory of their kids at a time of such grief is about telling them what to do? Wouldn't it be hugging them? Snuggling? Hearing them say, "I love you Daddy!"

And "my Bella singing that I'm her hero"... I can't say it enough, CW did not deserve a family.

 

[gitana1]

Can you tell us more what you think of them and why?

How could he put his kids in those tanks?

Or stand there calmly, dry-eyed and well rested, lying through his teeth about his family, the very day after his wife supposedly strangled his precious children to death, and he disposed of all their bodies in a desolate, lonely place.

Some grief from this "poor" man who just witnessed his wife killing the people he loved the most in the world.

 

[Mamamiamaria]

Anyone can go down to walmart and buy a private use cell phone without a plan. Aren't they called burner phones?

Exactly ! In fact the last thing anybody having an affair these days would use is their own phone. Give your partner free access to your phone......nothing to hide.....except your burner phone of course

 

[NuttMegg]

I agree with your scenario, that he waited until CW fell asleep. And that she didn't check on the girls. So late, so tired and sleepy.

I'm starting to think that the girls were dead already when she got home.

Because I wonder why did it had to be that morning he chose to kill her. Why not wait another day or two when he didn't have to wait until 2 am for her to get home.

Sure, he could have hauled off and hit one of the kids a little too hard because of backtalk or annoying hyper activity after a birthday party. Then the rest had to be done. And no calling 911 to blame it on Shan'ann, with the arrival delay.

 

[gitana1]

Could you see any thing in his character that could explain the remorseless callous dumping of the bodies of his babies in oil?

Or of being so composed and smiling/laughing the day after his kids were murdered?

I'm very curious about that. Hopefully, @Trinket78, you can get verified quickly and tell us how you knew them, how often you saw them and were in their house, interacted with them, had conversations with them, how close you were, etc.

It would be very illuminating. Especially because so far your perspective is vastly different from the verified insiders we already have on board!

 

[Trinket78]

I'm just going to go on the record and say that I am not willing to believe anyone who claims to know this family unless they become a verified insider.

No offense to you Trinket78 - it just too easy for anyone to make claims on the internet these days.

I hope you do decide to become verified, but I can understand why you might choose not to.

I completely understand that. I would just need to know that my identity stays private.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I think we know what Trinket is implying here.
Let’s not jump on her/him while he/she is waiting to be verified. Let’s stay polite and open-minded.
Understandably, Trinket is concerned about his/her privacy. This is a sensitive matter & he/she has a controversial opinion.
I, for one, would like to hear it.

The poster said their first thought when the family went missing was what has SW done.

So I simply asked for clarification since her car never left the house. So why first think what has she done. So I definitely would like clarification on what that meant.

Did the poster think she left CW while leaving behind the car and carseats?

Or did the poster think that she took the kids and did something nefarious.

Or what? So that's why I was asking them for clarification on their original thought when the family first went missing.

 

[katydid23]

Exactly ! In fact the last thing anybody having an affair these days would use is their own phone. Give your partner free access to your phone......nothing to hide.....except your burner phone of course

Exactly. My friend was suspicious of her husband's overtime work schedule. He gave her total access to his phone and the password to his laptop and FB. So she claimed down and thought she was just paranoid.

Turns out he was using snapchat on a burner phone and tinder on there too.

 

[katydid23]

I completely understand that. I would just need to know that my identity stays private.

we have had a lot of verified insiders here. I have never seen any of their identities leaked. Some choose to id themselves, by saying they are family members or friends, etc. But if not, it stays anonymous.