Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #19

[Layla123]

SW wouldn't fit in the silver-domed hole in the video, but she would have fit in the bigger hole where there is a ladder inside (later on on the video).

I don’t see where that hole was on the top of the tank.

 

[PommyMommy]

How does one plead when they’re obviously guilty of some of the crimes? Guilty and Not Guilty? CW has confessed to desecrating those bodies.

Christian Longo did this. He pleaded guilty to the murders of Mary Jane and Madison Longo, without a deal, but refused to enter a plea on the charges of killing Sadie and Zachery, and the court entered a not guilty plea on his behalf.

 

[cottonweaver]

But I think that Anadarko's tracking system would have sounded an alert
if their ROVR had been disabled. They might think a terrorist had hijacked CW's company truck.

The links posted a few thread back, show how you can "jam" the signal without physically disconnecting the device - akin to losing signal/being out of range.
( I'm afraid I've not opened your link, just been scrolling the thread to see if we had updates, so IDK how often they would monitor/act on a vehicle 5- 9am, for instance )

 

[OTPTarheel2018]

You would think that Anadarko or any oil company would have security cameras. They don't want someone stealing the oil or protestors sabotaging
the tanks.

They may have them and not publicize it. Second level security.

 

[PommyMommy]

How do you know what they have?

At about the 9:50 mark, one of the prosecuting attorneys tells the judge that they have provided the defense with the affidavit.

 

[Allabouttrial]

I’m assuming they have computers and have access the same information we do. They did file a complaint about LE leaking information to the press, so they are paying attention to the news.

Sorry I mis-read I thought you said they did not have all the info. doh

 

[Allabouttrial]

At about the 9:50 mark, one of the prosecuting attorneys tells the judge that they have provided the defense with the affidavit.

Thanks! Yeah have just sent a reply I misread it!

 

[ray9898]

If she filed for divorce, the judge would likely allow her to live in the house with the girls.

Ehhhhh.....in my experience most divorce filings make no exclusions on marital property at the time of filing absent an adjoining protective order. That comes way down the line at the hearings or mediation.

 

[The Saint]

The links posted a few thread back, show how you can "jam" the signal without physically disconnecting the device - akin to losing signal/being out of range.
( I'm afraid I've not opened your link, just been scrolling the thread to see if we had updates, so IDK how often they would monitor/act on a vehicle 5- 9am, for instance )

If CW were shown as being out-of-range, he'd be AWOL from his job and they would contact him immediately, imo.

 

[gitana1]

How does one plead when they’re obviously guilty of some of the crimes? Guilty and Not Guilty? CW has confessed to desecrating those bodies.

Well even if someone confessed to an act, there can be defenses. Like diminished capacity. Or self defense. Or defense of others. Or accident. And those defenses can render someone not guilty of the criminal charges even if they confessed to an act of killing.

 

[cottonweaver]

Baby monitor. Date: 6th May 2017. SW FB

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10154500905086935

Now that really is an update on the info we have - if that's showing toggling between the two rooms, cause that was asked many many times on previous threads.

 

[DexterMorgan]

If CW were shown as being out-of-range, he'd be AWOL from his job and they would contact him immediately, imo.

Dispatch would contact him first if he was running late to come and pickup his workorder for the day I would guess.

But they probably only track a driver if they feel he takes too long to finish each assignment. Idk

 

[sun16]

@DexterMorgan said: ↑
Why tell them I loaded tools and then left for the Hudson site? Why not just say I left for work at 5:30 am?

I believe there was a statement something to the effect that the neighbors camera showed "CW truck backing up to his garage." Perhaps he was parked in the street, and captured backing up to garage which would lend to CW response he was loading his tools. MOO

Maybe I’m remembering incorrectly, but do you guys recall something about CW’s truck being parked a couple blocks away (from the house)?

 

[Jennifer17]

Maybe I’m remembering incorrectly, but do you guys recall something about CW’s truck being parked a couple blocks away (from the house)?

I think that that was after he had dumped the bodies.

 

[Thepoet]

Why tell them I loaded tools and then left for the Hudson site? Why not just say I left for work at 5:30 am?

That's a good point! People generally make an explanation, for one reason or another, because they think an explanation is needed. Guilty conscience on his part?

 

[sun16]

It’s interesting to look at photos of CW (from Facebook or wherever) and the porch video, and then look at him in court. It’s like two different people. Every single muscle in his face seems frozen. Like he’s dead inside. Or like this is the real, serious, intense him that we’re now getting a glimpse of.

 

[sun16]

That's a good point! People generally make an explanation, for one reason or another, because they think an explanation is needed. Guilty conscience on his part?

Guilty people do oftentimes give lots of extra detail, thinking it is helping their case.

 

[molly1255]

I don’t see how SW could fit in there.

This video is why I made the assumption SW's body would not fit into the opening. I'm pretty sure this video does not depict the actual storage tanks that are on the site where CW hid the bodies of his two little girls.

JMO, I definitely think CW planned everything out and given his job, he should have accounted for the size of the opening and whether SW's body would fit. Or one would think.

Perhaps the openings on the tanks on that site are larger than the ones in the video and SW's would fit but for some reason, he was unable to get her body there?

If this turns out to be the case, I can think of two scenarios off the top of my head of why he might not have been able to get SW's body to the tank opening.
One might have been physical exhaustion. Another might be that someone was now within a distance where CW feared they could see him carrying SW's body up the stairs to the tank opening.

IDK! Hopefully one day we will know. It is JMO that SW's grave was something CW intended to be temporary and he planned to come back later because I can't think of one reason why he would want for SW's body to be discovered at that site.

All JMO.

 

[Layla123]

This video is why I made the assumption SW's body would not fit into the opening. I'm pretty sure this video does not depict the actual storage tanks that are on the site where CW hid the bodies of his two little girls.

JMO, I definitely think CW planned everything out and given his job, he should have accounted for the size of the opening and whether SW's body would fit. Or one would think.

Perhaps the openings on the tanks on that site are larger than the ones in the video and SW's would fit but for some reason, he was unable to get her body there?

If this turns out to be the case, I can think of two scenarios off the top of my head of why he might not have been able to get SW's body to the tank opening.
One might have been physical exhaustion. Another might be that someone was now within a distance where CW feared they could see him carrying SW's body up the stairs to the tank opening.

IDK! Hopefully one day we will know. It is JMO that SW's grave was something CW considered to be temporary and he planned to come back later because I can't think of one reason why he would want for SW's body to be discovered.

All JMO.

 

[Layla123]

I went back and looked at the AB video of the actual tanks. There is only one opening on the top of the tank and it has a dome top like the small one in the video. His tool box looks 3x the size of that hole in the YouTube video. But without actually climbing up there and measuring the openings on the tanks that CW used, there’s no way for us to know for sure. I guess.