Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #20

[Bill Carson]

Are those posts all gone?!? Wowza! (To almost quote a previous post!)

I just looked, and the posts are still there.

 

[Zella]

In addition to a poll asking whether you guys lean more to towards premeditarion or “snapping”, I would ask do you guys think the girls were already dead when Shannan got home.

I'm less sure on the issue of premeditation--though I lean toward it being premeditated--but I am almost positive the girls were already dead when SW got home. I've thought that since the beginning, before they were even found.

The main reason I think it was premeditated is his bearing in the interviews. I think if he had legitimately snapped, he would have seemed more distraught. He was practically glowing.

And because I lean toward premeditation, I think the girls were already dead when SW set foot through that door. Otherwise, it makes no sense to go through with killing her with such a limited time frame to dispose of the bodies. He could have waited for another time, so I think there was a reason why he continued to go through with it, even with the delayed flight being an unexpected complication.

I think with her being pregnant and possibly not feeling well and coming home late after a flight delay, she just wanted to go to sleep, and having an argument with her husband was the last thing on her mind. I don't think they had an "emotional conversation" in the sense he claimed--which I think was just cover for his planned alibi about why she was gone. I think if they did have an "emotional conversation," it was because she found her daughters dead.

 

[cshea99]

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[BayouBelle_LA]

BBM
I agree with the majority of what you are saying. However, as far as gender norms and roles go I’m not a one size fits all kind of person. I can see how one would think or misconstrue what’s being said as punishing SW for stepping away from the gender norms, but I’m not doing that. All I’m saying is that I see unhealthy relationships in the video’s. For me my opinions have nothing to do with gender roles. JMO

I think for most of us it has nothing to do with gender roles. I would be equally disturbed if a man was squirting a young child in the face.

My mommy mantra was 'not in the face' when my kids played with squirt guns, nerf guns, etc. I wonder what a pediatrician would think.

 

[Lucyray]

And then that poster got offended when someone asked them if they were one of the 2.

Actually, they did say they were trying NOT to be offended by the question. It was in fact an aggressive question, one that (I feel) only sitting behind a keyboard allows one to ask. In person, if someone is that aggressive, it cuts off communication. As it did last night. Last night, this looked a bit like a Facebook site. Not do today..a bit more..congenial? In my own opinion only.

 

[margarita25]

Legal MJ is totally a reason people move. It wasn’t reaching.

(Raises hand)

 

[esayer]

Actually I wasn’t trying to blame MJ on their behavior, at all. I was just curious if anyone knew if they partook or not. If she had tried/used it for her health issues, because it’s useful in the ones she had. And if it was maybe a reason as to why they moved to CO. I said it was random, but I wanted to know; so I asked. They were talking about the house in NC & what caused them to possibly move. Legal MJ is totally a reason people move. It wasn’t reaching.

Well you asked if there would be drug interactions with the Thrive patches so that's what it sounded like to me.

 

[SausagePizza]

Even if Tinker does get verified the questions will still come in like a canon. You can tell he/she had a problem with SW already.

 

[esayer]

Does BBM stand for Blackberry message or something else?

I've been wondering this since 3 weeks ago when I found this site lol. Also MOO.

 

[cshea99]

BBM, She did not say that she knew them from the beginning, she said that she had known them for many years and 'the beginning' phrase was in relation to the affair. She had known about the affair from the beginning.

Actually, what she/he said was she them from the start.

Hello and thank you!

Honestly so much of what I have read in here couldn’t be further from the truth about who they were. I knew them from the very start.

 

[pinkie60]

I wonder if CW and the others that kill their families are born disordered. at a certain age if the circumstances are right they just go off without any warning. There are so many ways they could have coped with their problems without resorting to murder. Starting to think they might be born with a urge to kill if circumstances are right

 

[Bill Carson]

Even if Tinker does get verified the questions will still come in like a canon. You can tell he/she had a problem with SW already.

I had the impression that s/he wanted to correct some wrong assumptions on these threads. Part of that, ISTM, is the narrative that we steered toward that CW was a sociopathic monster and SW was as sweet as Snow White.

I would have liked what s/he had to say, but I know enough to know that even people who think they know others really well don't have the whole picture. Still, the information would have drawn in some of the context.

 

[Thepoet]

And the person who claimed to know them well claimed that he had asked her over and over for a separation.
Why did he not just leave? What was stopping him walking out the door if she treated him so badly.

Years ago some friends of mine had severe, and worsening, marital problems coupled with financial problems. After a numer of fights, tears, and figuring (budgets) the husband, James, went and found an inexpensive furnished garage apartment. Linda stayed in the house. Eventually (after more than a year) things began to smooth out financially and they got a divorce. Today they're friends. THAT is how it's supposed to work!

 

[The Saint]

Did you see if he wrote any sweet things about SW and the girls?

No . But that's not to say that there weren't any. The posts were about Thrive, working out, running, and football(especially anything to do with the Steelers--trades, etc).

 

[cottonweaver]

I wonder Dr Phil would have to say about all this (his analysis of CW).

IDK but SW's feedback to CW's presentation was "great information..good job"

 

[The Saint]

I've been wondering this since 3 weeks ago when I found this site lol. Also MOO.

My Opinion Only =MOO

 

[Waterdog]

Welcome to Websleuths, @brookryn ! ​

I don't think we've seen anything that indicates she used mj, but we have a verified insider, @isalybra who could probably answer that for you.



I don't think I've seen that video, can you link it please?

O/T @Seattle1 We had pork chops.

I've thought of moving to CO for this reason, but to sell it in a boutique not use. Interesting if that was one reason for their move.

 

[Waterdog]

As a lifelong MJ enthusiast, there is no way in hell SW or CW used MJ.

Can you elaborate as to why you say that? Is it because she had seemingly endless energy?

 

[Layla123]

I'm less sure on the issue of premeditation--though I lean toward it being premeditated--but I am almost positive the girls were already dead when SW got home. I've thought that since the beginning, before they were even found.

The main reason I think it was premeditated is his bearing in the interviews. I think if he had legitimately snapped, he would have seemed more distraught. He was practically glowing.

And because I lean toward premeditation, I think the girls were already dead when SW set foot through that door. Otherwise, it makes no sense to go through with killing her with such a limited time frame to dispose of the bodies. He could have waited for another time, so I think there was a reason why he continued to go through with it, even with the delayed flight being an unexpected complication.

I think with her being pregnant and possibly not feeling well and coming home late after a flight delay, she just wanted to go to sleep, and having an argument with her husband was the last thing on her mind. I don't think they had an "emotional conversation" in the sense he claimed--which I think was just cover for his planned alibi about why she was gone. I think if they did have an "emotional conversation," it was because she found her daughters dead.

I think we’ve all been looking at this crime, trying to understand what happened, assuming CW was smart and thorough. If we switch that up and start over from the beginning under the premise that CW was careless and stupid, this execution of this crime makes a lot more sense.

 

[Zella]

I've thought of moving to CO for this reason, but to sell it in a boutique not use. Interesting if that was one reason for their move.

Was it legal when they moved? I got the impression the move was economic in motivation.