Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #20

[flourish]

Happy to see many new posters! Welcome! Please make sure you visit this area:

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I'm not a moderator. There are rules here, though, and all members are expected to be familiar with them.

If you have concerns about other people's posts, you click the word, "report" on the post, and a little window will pop up. Type in your concerns there and hit submit. The mods ask that we do that and not engage or try to moderate, etc.

Hope that helps. Welcome newbies.

 

[Seattle1]

Does anyone know how to link to a previous post if all you have is the post number?

After years, I don't know if it's possible for individual post link so I simply reference the thread number followed by the post number. Hope this helps!

 

[cshea99]

Perhaps cousin recommended mechanic CW, and SW took her auto in, and with knowledge of friend in common, CW followed up with FB friend request.

I like the way you think! That sounds logical!

 

[cshea99]

Not sure if you are referencing me and I’m making it up? I have screenshots of her brother who said “He was a mechanic who worked on her car. He got her name off a ticket.” This was in reply to someone who said Shanann met Chris on fb.

Oh no! That isn’t what I meant at all. I was more meaning that we all agree that what we put on FB is a different version of ourselves. I was wondering more like did she change her story of how they met. I would think her own brother would know.

 

[curiouschat]

And I think he found ways of popping into pictures and videos that didn't originally include him.

This is what's so weird to me about the theory I've seen that he hated all the social media because it made it obvious to affair partners that he was in a relationship? Like he seems to awkwardly be on the fringes of a lot of videos or just pop in. I don't know if she was pushing him to be in them in some cases or he was doing it himself but he seems like he is trying to go through the motions but he seems almost as if maybe he's somewhere on the autism spectrum or extremely introverted and it's not natural to him. (And I am not at all trying to smear autistic people as murderers and I may be way off.)

 

[flourish]

If there were disrespectful comments lodged at Trinket78 yesterday from the time this person first posted
Post by: Trinket78, Yesterday at 1:57 PM
until the last post
Post by: Trinket78, Yesterday at 4:41 PM

Then I am more then certain the moderator/moderators on duty during that time yesterday would have spoken up and made an addendum post regarding such poor behavior but to my knowledge nothing was forthcoming from the moderators yesterday in reference to Trinket78 or member's posts.

People are allowed to have the opinion that the attitude and questions towards that poster included some rudeness and disrespect.

 

[flourish]

After years, I don't know if it's possible for individual post link so I simply reference the thread number followed by the post number. Hope this helps!

To link to a specific post, click the post number and a little window will pop up with the url to copy. In order for me to see post numbers on my phone, I have to flip my phone into "landscape" mode (sideways). HTH

 

[BeckyF]

LOL my FB videos are 2 from my son's graduation, one of my teenage daughter laying on the kitchen floor laughing, one of my cat playing fetch, and one of my trashcans floating away in a storm. So I see your point.

That said, I have several FB friends whose videos are similar to SW's and they are NOT trying to sell a product. I think some people are much more private than others. It's possible too that she put so much out there so she could share daily life with her family back in NC. Heck that's the only reason I even have a FB account... to share life with all my extended family who are 1000 miles away. If I lived near them, I'd delete my account in a second.

I have a niece who is a rep for a similar MLM company. They sell meal replacements in powder form. She constantly puts videos on FB promoting the program and even shows her 3 yr old daughter drinking the meal replacements and doing the exercise program. It is constant self promoting.

 

[SeesSeas]

Does anyone know how to link to a previous post if all you have is the post number?

Click on the post # and a box will appear with "Permalink" information which includes the URL web link for the post. Copy and paste the URL web link.

Here is the "Permalink" to your post which I just replied to:
Found Deceased - CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #20

 

[Tippy Lynn]

The people that he stayed with, the Thayers said that he watched his interview videos over and over again.

That’s so bizarre.

 

[Allabouttrial]

To link to a specific post, click the post number and a little window will pop up with the url to copy. In order for me to see post numbers on my phone, I have to flip my phone into "landscape" mode (sideways). HTH

Ha. Thank you Flourish. Been wondering how you do that.

 

[The Saint]

Not sure if you are referencing me and I’m making it up? I have screenshots of her brother who said “He was a mechanic who worked on her car. He got her name off a ticket.” This was in reply to someone who said Shanann met Chris on fb.

Maybe it went like this: CW worked on SW's car and that's how he got her name. He then gave her name to the cousin and asked the cousin to send a friend request to Shanann. I think Shanann ignored the cousin's request
on behalf of CW but caved when CW sent a second friend request himself.

 

[SausagePizza]

To link to a specific post, click the post number and a little window will pop up with the url to copy. In order for me to see post numbers on my phone, I have to flip my phone into "landscape" mode (sideways). HTH

XenForo is really great forum software. Actually one of the best.

 

[The Saint]

That’s so bizarre.

Not if you're a narcissist.

 

[violet101]

Oh no! That isn’t what I meant at all. I was more meaning that we all agree that what we put on FB is a different version of ourselves. I was wondering more like did she change her story of how they met. I would think her own brother would know.

I agree. It’s odd she didn’t mention any of that in her fb video. Maybe it’s a mix of both, who knows.

 

[Mrspratcher]

To be clear, he was watching his media interviews back. He seemed to the Thayers very concerned about how he came across to the public and it worried them. They talk about it in this video and others.

ETA: @cottonweaver @Coolmomof4 Long video above; also below they are interviewed in a shorter segment (starts from around 1 min, 25 seconds in)

And eating pizza and sleeping while his family is “missing”. No wonder the Thayers called the police.

 

[JEM1975]

@isalybra Thank you for coming on here and it is so very understandable that you need somewhere to work out your thoughts and feelings. I am so incredibly sorry for your losses, I truly can't imagine the pain you are going through. I live in the same town and I didn't know them but the pain as you said, is unbearable. I am new to this site too and I just wanted to thank you for your input. I think we're all trying to make sense of something that absolutely just doesn't make sense. It terrifies me that something like this could ever happen to someone I love and then have to try to make sense of the why afterwards. Again, sorry is such an inadequate word, my heart truly aches for you and I pray for comfort, peace and healing for you and everyone who was blessed enough to have SW, BW, and CC in your lives! She seemed like such a bright light!

Edited for spelling and grammar

 

[Colorado303]

Was watching AB and she reiterated the sheet info from the affidavit. When first emtering the house police noticed sheets had been stripped from the master bed and [were on the floor?]. Police searched the sheets for signs of foul play but found none. Then they say the sheet in the oil field matched two pillow cases and a top sheet they found in the kitchen trash can. Which means the sheet in the oil field probably wasn’t from CW/SW’s bed but one of the girls? If she killed the girls, why in the world would HE throw out their sheets? And if he killed her while she was strangling their daughter, why strip the master bed?

I’ve believed he killed the girls before SW got home from day one. But if she saw the girls dead in their room would she ever have made it back to the master bedroom? I don’t have kids but I assume a parent would peek in on their kids if they just got home. About the only thing that makes sense if the girls were killed first is if he displayed them on the master bed for SW to see when she got home. Which seems even too evil for him.

 

[nwmouse]

AB 9/11/18
1. 100’s of strands of hair found in truck.
2. A precise timeline can’t be determined
3. In cold weather hair banding process is slow, in hot weather process is much faster.
4. If there was warm weather hair bands may have occurred.
5. Might be able to determine how close together murders occurred.
6. Three pieces of a hair are differential. There’s the ares above bands. The band is found at scalp level. Root is under skin. Hair close to skin is alive, when body dies blood stops flowing. At root you find enzyme breakdown that causes color of band.
7. They can tell if hair was pulled out in struggle.
8. Contents of stomach.
9. CW claims SW killed children after 2am. If children were killed hours before, TOD can be determined by stomach contents. We know they are at birthday party.
10. There are text messages and search histories that have not been deleted.
11. The bed in Master bedroom had bedding that had been stripped off the bed.
12. Officers checked for signs of foul play.
13. If this was a crime of passion you wouldn’t take those steps to remove bedding. If the wife killed kids, you wouldn’t try to get rid of evidence that would prove she did it.
Viewers Questions
1. Do they run blood tests on inmates when they are arrested, Steroids? Roidrage? No, not unless inmate agrees. Defense could ask for it. BBM
2. Might he have had an accomplice? AP is not suspect. None other known at this time.
3. Did CW have scratches or bruises? Is it possible to strangle someone and come away scratch free? Can’t imagine that. Survival instinct would kick in, if CW was aware she would fight tooth and nail. There may be skin under her nails. Maybe there were screatches on CW we don’t know about.
4. What do we know about CW’s family? CW’s childhood. He seemed like a friendly guy. No red flags. We know CW spoke with father.
5. Where will they find jurors who have not heard of case? They’ve found them in other high profile cases. Sometimes it’s okay to use jurors who have heard about case.

1. Do they run blood tests on inmates when they are arrested, Steroids? Roidrage? No, not unless inmate agrees. Defense could ask for it.: Interesting, it should be mandatory.
And a HUGE thank you to Layla123 for posting these summaries, its a great help as I can't access AB.

 

[Sleuthine]

I totally agree. Children will definitely let an adult know when they do or do not want to play. CW could have opted out.

I am not sure, in that particular video I saw a child that didn't really have fun and wanted out, but couldn't. Her opening the mouth and showing the belly seemed a bit "conditioned", like in the way she has to do what is asked. MOO of course and just based on that particular video comparing with my own two girls (nearly same age).

CW should have intervened IMO but since it was a live video (?) It would have been some unwanted interruption perhaps.