Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #26

[Colorado303]

1. How much would a more reasonably priced home cost in that area of Colorado? One in a decent neighborhood?
2. What happened to the business she owned? Was it sold? Did she still get money from it? The car rim business.

That neighborhood is actually one of the more reasonably priced ones in metro Denver. When they starting building it there was almost nothing there and people who couldn’t afford a starter home in Denver started looking that far north to find something. They’re still building there and ironically, the new home prices there are still less than worn pre-occupied homes in suburbs closer to Denver.

 

[human]

Ok, I understand what you are saying about treating the body with respect. But I guess what I dont get is that this act, is not more heinous than what had already been done. I obviously have a different belief system regarding what happens to the soul following death. And no, I do not mean that the body should be treated as garbage. I am not implying that at all. Do not put words in my mouth! I never said or implied that at all! Just asked a question! Wished I hadn't now!

I cannot agree with the disposal, but it is really good that you give your views because they are different. In some places in India, don’t they burn the bodies in some kind of funeral pyre? That seems kind of destructive to me.

The Egyptians buried the kings in incredible structures and killed some of the servants to go with the kings. Nice.

In some cultures people weere killed and they were eaten because it was thought then the eater would get the power the dead person had.

I think there are other kinds of death treatments but I cannot think of any off hand.

So your view is as valid as anyone’s. Don’t feel you cannot post your ideas. People obviously have different views. Makes the world go round.

 

[Gardenista]

Thanks, G, I always like to see the exact wording. Here's the relevant quote:


IMO it's odd that it doesn't really say when this info was shared by SW's mom. Was Search told this while SW was in NC or was it after the murder? Also the word "separate" is not in a quote from the person, it's in the reporter's words. IMO that could indicate the reporter asked a leading question and the reply was an affirmative but that still doesn't indicate when or what exactly was said.

Of course I may be over-analyzing. I won't be surprised if SW knew, I'm just on the fence until more comes out. The phone records will be very interesting IMO.

The statement was in the video.

 

[mtnlites]

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Yeah, What Lies!!?? Other than being a fool in love!


She was promoting her brand. I would not call those actions of hers "lies". I also don't think she knew he was having extra-marital relations with others until the last few weeks of her life. And maybe, (we don't know what she was thinking at the time) she wanted to try to work things out because she was pregnant so she kept posting positive things on SM.

Not to mention that working with Thrive probably really did allow her to spend more time with her kids. As an author who works from home and sets my own hours, I spend much more time now with my kids than when I worked in an office.

 

[margarita25]

“No stone unturned” - exactly. I have many friends with kids also go through divorce, and they all said the same.. they couldn’t leave until they knew in their heart of hearts that they had absolutely tried everything they could to save their marriage. Two young children and a baby on the way, with some added insight into her personality, no way would she just give up and walk away without trying

Yes yes yes, I say this all the time. Exactly as you stated it.

 

[MJPeony]

Why would a reporter say that a family member made the statement about his admission of killing all three children? I have never seen that recanted. Would the family not be furious to be misstated about such an important thing? I know I would.

This perhaps could be one of the things CW's defense team is upset about. Hence their request about the media leaks, etc. that they feel could prejudice jurors against him. JMO.

 

[nwmouse]

I cannot agree with the disposal, but it is really good that you give your views because they are different. In some places in India, don’t they burn the bodies in some kind of funeral pyre? That seems kind of destructive to me.

The Egyptians buried the kings in incredible structures and killed some of the servants to go with the kings. Nice.

In some cultures people weere killed and they were eaten because it was thought then the eater would get the power the dead person had.

I think there are other kinds of death treatments but I cannot think of any off hand.

So your view is as valid as anyone’s. Don’t feel you cannot post your ideas. People obviously have different views. Makes the world go round.

The burning of a body in a funeral pyre is an act of cleansing and purifying with fire, just like cremation in certain cultures.
(In India, burning the dead body and floating it down the Ganges river is honoring and purifying the dead as they go onto the next life.)

I don't know of any religions that condone murdering toddlers in cold blood and dumping their bodies into highly toxic chemicals to get rid of evidence, and burying their mother's strangled, 15 week pregnant corpse in a shallow grave to be retrieved and hidden when the coast was clear.

That would be taboo in any culture. MOO.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

I'm not trying to be difficult, but I fail to see how these are good examples of SW's lies.

Do you have other info?

Obviously, it's now known that CW was not a good husband. Even if everything he said was true, he was a cheater.

But prior to this, do you know that SW didn't think CW was great and just lied about it?

Did you hear her call him a loser? I heard her joke about him needing to "take the L". That was public. She didn't lie about who won at checkers. She smack talked, as ppl often do when playing games.

Do you know when she first suspected an affair? Could she have loved him anyway and hoped they'd get past it? Does not announcing her suspicions/knowledge publicly equal lying?

She seemed to spend plenty of time with her kiddos while selling Thrive. Do you have knowledge otherwise? Do you know what hours she worked at previous jobs?

I just don't see any facts or evidence to support the claim that these prove she lied.

Moo

It was a lot more than smack talk in some of the videos. There were disparaging remarks throughout. One that comes to mind is when she whispers to her audience that her husband is a genius, he doesn't listen.

 

[MsBetsy]

Every time she posted what a great husband Chris was, while calling him a loser and knowing that he was having sex with other people.

Claiming Thrive allowed her to spend more time with her kids than her real job did.

What! His having sex outside of the marriage makes her the liar? I would say he is a loser, too. Since when does being a hypocrite lead one to kill her children? Half the people walking around are hypocrites! How about going to church every Sunday and then spending half the time gossiping and judging people instead of helping them? I see that all the time. And worse. And still those people never seem to kill anyone. Promoting a product is a bad thing? What about all the people in commercials who say they use the product every day? Honestly, I thought we were past this. Jmo

 

[Jaime Rainha]

If it’s true that CW wouldn’t let SW talk to the girls, I don’t think NA or SW in their wildest dreams thought CW would have hurt them. Probably that he was just being obstinate. If they suspected for a second the girls might be hurt, I think they would have had the police or a friend do a wellness check before the wheels of the plane left AZ.

I do believe if NA had suspected the girls were hurt she would have gone inside w/SW and that we’d be talking about 5 people dead, not 4.

I’ve been wondering what their communication was like while she was in AZ. I’m thinking that NUA probably witnessed their exchange(s) and/or that S.W. shared with her what was happening re talking to the girls or not.
Also, I’m thinking she was killed while in the bed. It seems like C.W. did the bare minimum in the cleanup process, but those sheets wouldn’t have needed to be removed if they weren’t involved in her murder in my opinion.

 

[mtnlites]

I cannot agree with the disposal, but it is really good that you give your views because they are different. In some places in India, don’t they burn the bodies in some kind of funeral pyre? That seems kind of destructive to me.

The Egyptians buried the kings in incredible structures and killed some of the servants to go with the kings. Nice.

In some cultures people weere killed and they were eaten because it was thought then the eater would get the power the dead person had.

I think there are other kinds of death treatments but I cannot think of any off hand.

So your view is as valid as anyone’s. Don’t feel you cannot post your ideas. People obviously have different views. Makes the world go round.

As I said in my other post, it is not the actual method of disposal, but the way in which it was done. Yes, some Indians use a pyre (though some do not), but thete is an actual ceremony involved. It is very respectful, beautiful even, and loved ones get the chance to say goodbye.

Technically, my son was burned and turned to ashes. But it was done by a professional. There was a beautiful earn chosen. The funeral service consisted of songs, memories, and readings.

What CW did with their bodies is in no way comparable to legitimate burial methods across the different cultures. My husband is an anthropologist and he can't think of a single culture that doesn't engage in some kind of burial rites with their method.

Yes, some cultures have water burials but having a 3-day wake on the shoreline and adorning the body with things they will need in the afterlife is in no way comparable to Christian Longo breaking bones to fit bodies into a suitcase and throwing them off bridges.

 

[margarita25]

FTR, of course all the local metro area is discussing this case. I haven’t heard one person express that they believe CW’s garbage.

 

[Gardener1850]

The statement was in the video.

Oh, thanks I didn't watch the video. I'll check it out.

ETA: I watched the video
The reporter says "You said you thought they were going to separate?"
Hairdresser says "That was the plan, that was definitely the plan"

Hmmmm....

 

[nwmouse]

It was a lot more than smack talk in some of the videos. There were disparaging remarks throughout. One that comes to mind is when she whispers to her audience that her husband is a genius, he doesn't listen.

Ok, let's say she does make disparaging remarks about CW: its no justification to murder her and the kids. A normal person would file for divorce, even if the wife said no. Millions of husbands and wives are ribbed or insulted many times during a marriage but they either stay and work things out or get a divorce. They (usually) don't murder their wife, toddlers and unborn son.

 

[MsBetsy]

I doubt that he's calling any of the shots. Maybe his family.

I'm sure it's his lawyers, and they represent his intentions. Jmo

 

[gitana1]

The bday party was Sunday and CW had a babysitter Saturday. That was posted by JL, the father where the party was held and the father of the babysitter. It was a public post when Shanann was missing but I think the group may be private now. (I have a screenshot so I just went back & confirmed)

Ok. So the party was actually on Sunday? And then he was later seen grilling alone? Ok. Thank you for that.

 

[gitana1]

YES someone please explain this last one. How can refuse to give his palm print and so on.

He can refuse but the court can order it and I expect they will order it.

 

[Silver~Bell]

My husband worked in the oilfield for 35 years. His jobs varied from time to time, but at one time, he was a field operator -:which is the same position that CW had. As far as what happens to a decomposing body inside of an oil tank filled with crude oil, I cannot say. However, you mentioned oil field workers found dead outside of oil tanks. Death in this case was more than likely caused by some type of poisonous gas accumulation such as hydrogen sulfide gas. Oilfield workers that are working in the fields where hydrogen sulfide gas exists, usually wear a Scott's air pack. These days, I am sure there are very few deaths attributed to gas inhalation. Most oil companies have safety departments that are dedicated to educating oil field employees about known hazards. Oil companies do not want an incident of any kind to be reported to OSHA. This has nothing to do with this case really. Just addressing oil field workers that were found dead outside of an oil tank. However, one thing I have read repeatedly on these threads and also many other discussion boards, the fact that so many find it so heinous, that CW placed his children's remains inside of a tank of oil. As opposed to what? I dont really know of a better place. The children were dead, or I assume that. I haven't seen anything else that indicates otherwise. I guess because the oil fields of West Texas supported our family for many years, I dont find that offensive, say compared to burial in a shallow grave. Decomposition, regardless of where it takes place is not pretty! All of this is of course is MO.

Interesting, bc I posted something very similar to your thoughts and I am a West Texan with a history in the oil patch and a love of crude. The crude in Weld County was most likely light sweet and not the tar sands or sour people fear. I cannot guarantee that, though. But it may bring them some comfort to know the odds are it was not a dark thick oil.

One thing, we have a lot of deaths still by tank batteries and even pumpjacks, sadly. H2S as you suspected, many times.

 

[katie565]

Ok, I understand what you are saying about treating the body with respect. But I guess what I dont get is that this act, is not more heinous than what had already been done. I obviously have a different belief system regarding what happens to the soul following death. And no, I do not mean that the body should be treated as garbage. I am not implying that at all. Do not put words in my mouth! I never said or implied that at all! Just asked a question! Wished I hadn't now!

The quote you’re responding to isn’t here so I’m not sure what’s going on but I don’t think anyone put words in your mouth. You asked for people to explain their views to you, didn’t you? I don’t want you to wish you didn’t ask. For what it’s worth, I have zero religious views so I don’t *think* that impacts my view. I’m trying to find a common place to relate to you. I think our communication just isn’t clicking yet

 

[Gardenista]

I doubt that he's calling any of the shots. Maybe his family.

If I was a family member and believed him, I would urge him to give everything they ask for.