Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #28

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  • #361
Hindsight is 20/20. If we are just going by happy and upbeat...then look at the Tibbets. Mom was laughing in one video. Dad and the boyfriend were making jokes. We can all look at the video now and see tons of things there and judge based on what we would do.
This!
 
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Hindsight is 20/20. If we are just going by happy and upbeat...then look at the Tibbets. Mom was laughing in one video. Dad and the boyfriend were making jokes. We can all look at the video now and see tons of things there and judge based on what we would do.
Maybe. But they’re not in jail for murder. You can’t even compare the Tibbetts to this monster. They have class
 
  • #364
Hindsight is 20/20. If we are just going by happy and upbeat...then look at the Tibbets. Mom was laughing in one video. Dad and the boyfriend were making jokes. We can all look at the video now and see tons of things there and judge based on what we would do.
The Tibbets' are not sitting in a jail cell being charged with 9 felonies.
 
  • #365
Hopefully if there was an injury it will be documented by the jail when they strip-searched him and made him cough. :eek: I'm sure any bruises, bumps, scratches or other injuries will be noted, photographed and analyzed to determine if they were sustained during the murders or before.

Hmmmmmm, to take photographs of any bumps or scratches or injuries, would they need a body warrant for that @Mrspratcher or other legals here? I would think they would need that, but then again do they do that sometimes to prove that there was no violence with a police department?
 
  • #366
Yes, for all we know he had a plan in place, but something triggered him to move faster.

My theory is that they had 'an emotional conversation' and his wife said ' Fine, go be with your new ho, I am taking the girls to my friends in the morning, then we are going back to NC...I'll text ya where to send the child support...'

I think all his plans went out the window because he had an immediate deadline now. Once she left him, he would not have any access to making up the 'she just walked away angry' theory anymore. If she was safely in her parents home, he'd have no access to implement his plans.

So he was forced to strike that night. JMO
Why would she go to Nc ? She left there
I had some suspicions along those lines too. :(
imo there’s
 
  • #367
Wait, what? Bella was killed when SW wasn't there? Where is that stated? He had many sexual encounters with a wide variety of partners? Where was that stated? The VI we have here said he didn't have many girlfriends.
SW didn’t arrive home until 2 AM. that evening. Don’t know what time Bella was killed. According to People Magazine CW had a wide variety of partners. This is just a theory that makes sense to me with the information we’ve been given, but I hope it’s a bad one.
 
  • #368
One still of him proves so much but multiple videos of her proves nothing. Pretty amazing.
We are speculating of course.
Video of him after wife and girls are missing (or video of him after having to kill his wife and unborn child)
vs
Normal everyday things for show

Kind of a big difference in what we should be/are observing.

Since we have known each other a long time... I feel like you would see those interviews as highly disturbing. Am I missing something?
 
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One still of him proves so much but multiple videos of her proves nothing. Pretty amazing.
There are no videos of her lying about where her family is.
 
  • #371
One still of him proves so much but multiple videos of her proves nothing. Pretty amazing.
Because of the context. We KNOW he was lying, he has admitted to that.

Some videos of Shanann within the context they were taken (promoting Thrive), and people are ready to accuse her of murder. Comparing the two, defies all logic.
 
  • #372
SW didn’t arrive home until 2 AM. that evening. Don’t know what time Bella was killed. According to People Magazine CW had a wide variety of partners. This is just a theory that makes sense to me with the information we’ve been given, but I hope it’s a bad one.
I'm really struggling to see how that theory makes any sense.
 
  • #373
I see flourish's point tho- she does seem to be lying a bit about how well they are doing and her happy, married to a hero marriage.
But there is still a big difference in the 'what' that they are lying about.
 
  • #374
Hmmmmmm, to take photographs of any bumps or scratches or injuries, would they need a body warrant for that @Mrspratcher or other legals here? I would think they would need that, but then again do they do that sometimes to prove that there was no violence with a police department?

@dixiegirl1035

The only photo I know they took during the booking process was his mug shot. I’m not sure what else their booking process would entail. Post booking, they would need to secure a court order or his consent.
 
  • #375
Very true! Discovery just typically doesn't take very long IMO.
Well, they haven't given it up yet. No discovery as of 2 nights ago.
I can hardly wait to try to figure out why tho.
 
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IMOO, the Thayer's expressed more grief and pain at the loss of SW and the girls. That was abject grief. The Thayer's weren't smiling or preening for the media, they were humble, devastated and bewildered at what happened. Yet the "grieving" father is smiling and perfectly groomed for his close up. That says a lot to me.
And NAU. I feel so badly for all of them. None a single one of them could contain their grief. The only one who could and did, was the one closest to them and that's because he wanted them gone. MOO
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  • #378
BBM:
The AP is allegedly a work colleague so I guess he could have found time during lunch etc when they could be together? MOO MOO

An old adage from sales department, " when you're out in the field, it's easy to play the field"
 
  • #379
Hmmmmmm, to take photographs of any bumps or scratches or injuries, would they need a body warrant for that @Mrspratcher or other legals here? I would think they would need that, but then again do they do that sometimes to prove that there was no violence with a police department?

Disclaimer- not a legal opinion as I'm not an attorney, I've never even played one on TV ;)

IMO They could have taken pics of any injuries during questioning with his permission. If he didn't give permission they'd have needed a warrant. If he had injuries IMO he would have let them take pics.
 
  • #380
You can get a thousand pics just from a 1 min video. It doesn't prove that, that was a smile!


Start at about 07;15 of this 8 min video---he is smiling for the entire last 30 seconds as he talks about his girls. But they were murdered by his wife the previous day. Why the big smile?

 
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