Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #29

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From "Psychology Today": "Anger is inaccurately considered by some psychotherapists to be a secondary rather than primary emotion." It explains why some people think this. Then, the article goes on to state that: "In my view, it is a grave error to dismiss anger or rage as secondary and therefore less significant emotions than fear, shame, anxiety or love in the psychotherapy process. Anger is a primary emotion that tends to be repressed in most patients."
The Primacy of Anger Problems

It short, it can be considered a secondary reaction but that's not the rule. Each case must be considered on its own merits.

Verified psychologist here. While Psychology Today is not a great source for psychological science, this is accurate. The primary emotions are generally regarded as happiness, sadness, fear, anger, and surprise. (Behind on the thread, not sure if anyone else has chimed in here).

 

[human]

Maybe so, but I am not feeling 'fear' when I see my neighbor's dog fresh poo on my lawn in the morning. I am feeling anger.

Here is some info on anger as a secondary emotion. It may be that you feel disrespected.

I wonder if CW was never allowed to show emotion. It was so typical especially for boys.

Seriously, there is a whole book on How to Talk Minnesotan which is so true. Even though Minnesotans aren’t big on showing emotions, we don’t have more murders than everyone else so there is more to CW than stuffing his emotions.

Anger: A Secondary Emotion

 

[Best of What's Around]

Yeah. To the contrary. I think they're incredible. And your info explains something I've been thinking. I do believe they've been peppering the internet with nasty insinuations about Shanann's character. Or encouraging others to do so.

And I think it's having an effect.

Incredible. Well, if it is any consolation, I strongly believe your presence and posts here make a difference, particularly on days you are here like today. So...make a clone!

 

[MassGuy]

In hindsight, he should have had the Thayer's speak for him. Their grief was REAL. MOO

Yeah. How about that? Family friends showed more emotion that a guy who had just lost his entire family.

Of course, he lost them by his own (two) hands.

 

[Deleted member 230544]

At the same time, we want them to be solid to avoid a mistrial.

In reference to the "she" error. The defense would not have done this error on purpose would they have?

 

[Johnny1181]

I bet his wife bought it for him when she was on her trip to NC. That's where the Tarheels are from.

And it is weird, and very strange, that he would wear that shirt, if he told the truth about her killing the children.

If my husband strangled our babies, there is no way I would get up the next day, and put on anything he had given me as a gift, including my wedding ring..

Seems to counter preening for the person he was sleeping with outside his marriage (affair, I'm not sure the initials to use for that) but his face lit up.
Despite knowing exactly where his family was.... dirt and oil... I'm exhausted with saying it. He smiled about that dang shirt.

No doubt he was preening though.

But he did attribute the shirt to Shanann. I would like to know the origins of that shirt. Heck maybe he was just vain enough after losing 50lbs to like the way it made him look on camera.

Even if his wife and mother of his babies purchased it.

JMO

 

[Johnny1181]

deleted by me. Duplicate post. System failure on my end

 

[human]

This. And IMO... we try to find a way to blame the women.

Edited to correct "we" to some. Because I don't

Not about this case, but there are plenty of women I will never believe including Jodi Arias and Casey Anthony

 

[Best of What's Around]

Yeah just think about it. HHe wasn't even breaking a sweat. And yet some people think he was nervous.

When you compare the media interviews to his school presentation for a much less intimidating audience, there are not many differences at all.

 

[mtnlites]

No doubt in my mind that CW regrets the interview and staying with the Thayers.

Their friends were on the ball left and right. Bet he didn't count on that. NUA called the police when she didn't buy his story about a playdate and then the Thayers, who he trusted enough to stay with, called and reported him the next day.

 

[human]

This. And IMO... we try to find a way to blame the women.

Edited to correct "we" to some. Because I don't

Not about this case, but there are plenty of women I will never believe including Jodi Arias and Casey Anthony

 

[rigsby2]

I don't recall this older article being posted, but with all of the threads it's likely I missed it. It has a very clear google map photo of the actual tanks, and it's so desolate...... absolutely devastating to see.

And the quotes from Nick Thayer, the horror He feels having let CW sleep in his house that night with his wife and child.

Shanann Watts’ girls may have been dead when she got home, husband’s charges show

 

[Kensie]

I believe the babies were already deceased when SW got home.

 

[MassGuy]

Seems to counter preening for the person he was sleeping with outside his marriage (affair, I'm not sure the initials to use for that) but his face lit up.
Despite knowing exactly where his family was.... dirt and oil... I'm exhausted with saying it. He smiled about that dang shirt.

No doubt he was preening though.

But he did attribute the shirt to Shanann. I would like to know the origins of that shirt. Heck maybe he was just vain enough after losing 50lbs to like the way it made him look on camera.

Even if his wife and mother of his babies purchased it.

JMO

I think the main reason he discussed it, is that it took the focus off of the important questions. He didn’t have to lie about the shirt, so he was happy to talk about it.

 

[PommyMommy]

When you compare the media interviews to his school presentation for a much less intimidating audience, there are not many differences at all.

I did the same thing! Difference in appearance for sure, but not much in affect. MOO

 

[bluesneakers]

I think the main reason he discussed it, is that it took the focus off of the important questions. He didn’t have to lie about the shirt, so he’d be happy to talk about it.

But then he flubbed that too!

Like dude, get ahold of yourself.

 

[Johnny1181]

Yeah. To the contrary. I think they're incredible. And your info explains something I've been thinking. I do believe they've been peppering the internet with nasty insinuations about Shanann's character. Or encouraging others to do so.

And I think it's having an effect.

Agree. And seems obvious. Hope, beyond hope, the jury is not biased in either way. Hoping we can trust in the system and real evidence. IMO

 

[Deleted member 230544]

@gitana1↑
Yeah. To the contrary. I think they're incredible. And your info explains something I've been thinking. I do believe they've been peppering the internet with nasty insinuations about Shanann's character. Or encouraging others to do so.

And I think it's having an effect.

@gitana1, who has been peppering the internet with nasty insinuations about SW character? TIA

 

[MassGuy]

But then he flubbed that too!

Like dude, get ahold of yourself.

Yeah, everything he did after the killings was a mess. This guy could screw up a one car funeral procession.

 

[MassGuy]

Does anyone know if the rumors that SW and CW both had criminal records before they were married are true?

I have never heard anything to that effect. That sounds like a nasty Internet rumor.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I am not a mod. Just cautioning that Tricia has warned everyone she will NOT put up with snark any more and IMO it is again creeping into the thread. I don't want the mods overworked or the thread closed. JMO.

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In other news,
I have a funny feeling that a lot of information is going to be discovered soon.

Just look how much we are learning from the defense trying to keep information out, forcing the hand of the state to put more reasoning and information in their filings!

 

[PommyMommy]

Does anyone know if the rumors that SW and CW both had criminal records before they were married are true?

They are false. MOO

 

[MassGuy]

@gitana1↑
Yeah. To the contrary. I think they're incredible. And your info explains something I've been thinking. I do believe they've been peppering the internet with nasty insinuations about Shanann's character. Or encouraging others to do so.

And I think it's having an effect.

@gitana1, who has been peppering the internet with nasty insinuations about SW character? TIA

There are Facebook groups that seem dedicated to that sole purpose. It’s absolutely shocking.