Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #30

[NuttMegg]

The conversation CW had with his dad coming home from the airport had to be very different than the conversation they had just before CW’s confession, don’t you think? I would always love my child no matter what, but man, I’d have a hard time believing what the truth really is.

if cw gave his father the song and dance, and then afterwards gave his father the "true" story, only a dedicated parent completely unable or unwilling to see failings in his son would believe that flimsy story. Where are family members like hacking had when they are sorely needed. Imo

 

[MassGuy]

Alright, so are we now saying that SW was an abusive parent and her kids were abused by her?

The evidence as we know it, appears to be incredibly incriminating.

If that evidence doesn’t meet someone’s burden of proof as to CW’s guilt, how do Facebook videos meet that same burden in regards to SW having done this?

This isn’t directed at people who are undecided, but at those who lean the other way.

 

[Elle*Bee]

If a man/woman is happily married...would they still have an affair?

I personally would hope not...but, I have a friend who seems to adore his wife: spoils her with gifts and trips, praises her publicly, brags about her to everyone within earshot - yet cheats on her (one night stands or mini affairs). I’ve asked him why. He has no good answer. He says he loves her deeply, she’s amazing, she’s everything he wants in a partner. He just hates the idea of never having sex with someone else, he says. He’s my friend, but I do tell him I think he’s an @$$.

 

[nwmouse]

It is going to get uglier for SW character at the time of trial (if this goes to trial). Travis Alexander was made out to be a horrible perverted person.

Thank goodness TA had an awesome prosecutor Juan Martinez in his corner. I almost wish JM was prosecuting CW! By the end of this trial, IMOO, CW will be revealed for the monster he is and SW WILL be vindicated. I think DA Michael Rourke is going to be in Shanann's corner with her precious girls and unborn son.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

I wonder if CW public defenders believe his story?

IDK, but they know more than we do. jmo

 

[PommyMommy]

@PommyMommy,

Can you please be so kind as to bring fwd your FA chart again. I have some data on these I want to crunch...

In the cases you listed, in which were the children killed first, and how long before? You had also mentioned that some family members within each case had different CODs from each other.

Thank you for your time and efforts here again!!

Sorry for the late reply, Magz. It's still a work in progress. I will add another column for the order in which they were killed.

Pommy, hope this is not redundant, I saw an interview that the couple that hosted the bday party gave. JR and his wife, her saying the kids were playing happily playing together hours ago. I REALLY wish I could find that interview. Is that the one you were inquiring about yesterday? Why can't we find it?

I remember the video, but I don't remember the headline. Anyone else?

 

[Allabouttrial]

Alright, so are we now saying that SW was an abusive parent and her kids were abused by her?

I was merely pointing out an image of a smiling child and mother is not indicative of no abuse.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

So someone who currently is in control of SW's Facebook account has removed things and you want to know why this unknown person hasn't done more removals?

I want to know who this person is. It may make things more clear. JMO

:doh: I had assumed it was her family that had the Legacy account, but you are correct. The person that would have control over it perhaps is not her family.

Is it a Legacy account, or is it still active?

 

[MassGuy]

I was merely pointing out an image of a smiling child and mother is not indicative of no abuse.

And on the flip side, there were clear signs of abuse there?

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Also IMO if it did happen when she got home why would he wait three hours before leaving ? He left earlier than usual anyway at @5:22. Why not leave at 3:00? He would have had more time to dispose of bodies. And some time to stage the house . IMO he didn’t sit in the house for three hours with the dead bodies not even attempting to gather her purse and phone to dispose of . If it happened between 4-5 am IMO fits the timeline they were used to getting up. Thus a heated discussion time possibly about the other woman the 2am time and her sleeping on couch upset.

CW's truck would be fairly noisy, it'd be noticed at 3 am him starting his truck and backing up to load it, he had to wait for a time he may have left on previous occasions, even if rarely, it could still be explained away but 3am, no way.

If this all began at 2am or earlier (children already dead) I don't imagine he did sit in the house with the dead bodies. Imo, he bagged them up and took them down to the garage. Then, did what he could, stripped beds, wiped surfaces, checked for anything misplaced and probably took a nap. Yes, I think he was quite capable of sleeping after what he'd done.

The 4am timeline only fits imo, if he lied awake preparing himself to carry out his heinous plan. He strangled SW while she slept and then, killed the girls while they were sleeping.

There just isn't time for emotional conversations, wandering around the house, murderous rages, grieving over the death of 2 daughters and deciding what action to take! CW's story is BS!

 

[NuttMegg]

Who thinks that his father hot-footed it up to CO after seeing those inappropriate interviews to do some damage control.

"If" cw gave his father, at first, what i call the baloney story, then what excuse did he give his father later for not giving the "true" story? Hey, dad, i was just trying to save sw's reputation? What could he have possibly said that would make a grown up believe that switch in stories? Of course he may have given his father a different story at first, that we haven't even heard about. At the risk of repeating myself i don't believe the father buys it that sw killed her kids, and that his own son didn't bother to even try to save the lives of ANY of his family, just tried to save his own behind. Imo

 

[Deleted member 229974]

I know people have said that a few things were taken down from SW’s Facebook (what/why do you think that happened?), but is anyone surprised that someone associated with SW’s social media accounts hasn’t taken more stuff down or made them private? Maybe they feel there is nothing to hide, or that it would look bad to lock stuff down?

I think it’s exploitative to keep her FB page active.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

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Who thinks that his father hot-footed it up to CO after seeing those inappropriate interviews to do some damage control.

Nope - I think he was genuinely worried about his son, DIL and grand daughters. IMO he went there to be supportive like most normal parents/grandparents would do. jmo

 

[Allabouttrial]

And on the flip side, there were clear signs of abuse there?

I believe I never said either way.

 

[Jennifer17]

I think it’s exploitative to keep her FB page active.

It may not be her family who is keeping it active.

 

[Backstroke10]

Bravo.

Thank you Gitana1

 

[MKZoo]

Very true it's entirely possible that SW could have interpreted it to mean she couldn't have kids.

And it may have been a totally reasonable interpretation. It’s kind of impossible to know without being in the room with her and her doctor. But I definitely don’t think the fact that she was able to have kids is evidence she was not told that.

 

[Allabouttrial]

And it may have been a totally reasonable interpretation. It’s kind of impossible to know without being in the room with her and her doctor. But I definitely don’t think the fact that she was able to have kids is evidence she was not told that.

I agree.

 

[sun16]

"If" cw gave his father, at first, what i call the baloney story, then what excuse did he give his father for not giving the "true" story? Hey, dad, i was just trying to save sw's reputation? What could he have possibly said that would make a grown up believe that switch in stories? Of course he may have given his father a different story at first, that we haven't even heard about. At the risk of repeating myself i don't believe the father buys it that sw killed her kids, and that his own son didn't bother to even try to save the lives of ANY of his family, just tried to save his own behind. Imo

It’s interesting. I think the airport conversation was a version of the porch interview—dad, I don’t know where they are; it’s crazy. The other conversation, ugh who knows—that had to be akward and uncomfortable.

 

[MassGuy]

I think it’s exploitative to keep her FB page active.

It’s exploitive to keep the memory of their loved ones alive by keeping her Facebook active?

I have a few dead friends who still have Facebook pages up. I look at them from time to time. I don’t have a problem with this.