Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #33

[dgfred]

I'm not sure what to think about his FB being deleted. I personally am not too into FB, but use it to stay in touch with others and some business contacts but I rarely post. I could easily delete my FB account and never think twice about it.

You are not selling a product to the general public I assume.

The timing (what was going on then) was my main question. Why would he do that?

Someone mentioned- he was tired of her posting gushy stuff about him when they were discussing seperation...
they didn't answer back when I asked- what does her gushy post have to do with HIS account? Why delete his when her post are the problem?

 

[Serena Angelique]

I'm not sure what to think about his FB being deleted. I personally am not too into FB, but use it to stay in touch with others and some business contacts but I rarely post. I could easily delete my FB account and never think twice about it.

Apparently he sold THRIVE & was affiliated with that company too. That would be a sure fire way of saying “I quit” since it relies on Facebook posts to keep your teams together. He did still have his Twitter account active-he posted something about sports before SW came home that night.

Also, if she had a hard time respecting boundaries, she would have a harder time finding out about affairs. She also could’nt tag him and alert the mistress (what does AP stand for? I’m new)....
That would also be necessary if she/he hadn’t been told of the pregnancy.

It’s a great way of passively aggressively saying “I’m out of here” IMO

 

[PommyMommy]

Well said PommyMommy!

I hope, with permission from Tricia, we could have some of the more distasteful posts removed, by one or more of us posters, we could have temporary mod capabilities . I imagine this could be arranged once more damning evidence is revealed against CW, hopefully well before the trial is even underway.
SW is the victim and this is a victim friendly site. JMO

Thank you. While my post was not directed at anyone here, I would be lying if I said there aren't some posts that extend far beyond the pale. I should have included the statement by the family spokesperson in my post - the one that mentions the jabs online, on TV, etc. I can't find it this morning. I think my head is still reeling about those oil tank covers.

MOO

 

[kkdj]

Thanks for the update, he truly is a monster, I hope he gets the DP but has to wait at least fourth years in solitary confinement for it. What those poor babies must have went through doesn’t bare thinking about. When I first started reading these threads I had a tiny thought that maybe C.W. isn’t a monster and he just “snapped” under the weight of too much stress but every update I’ve read has made me realise how sick and empty he is inside. Evil.

Premeditation seems to be be looking more and more the truth.

 

[flourish]

Everybody has an opinion on how to 'mother'.
You can skip or put on ignore.

Almost EVERY big time murder case here has some victim 'questions' that don't quite resort to bashing... and when they occaisionally do-- Flourish is more than able to take care of the rascals. Both with words and actions.

?who?

Just clarifying I'm not a mod but that's sweet of dgfred to think so

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Everybody has an opinion on how to 'mother'.
You can skip or put on ignore.

Almost EVERY big time murder case here has some victim 'questions' that don't quite resort to bashing... and when they occaisionally do-- Flourish is more than able to take care of the rascals. Both with words and actions.

There's been family members who come on this site, most times it's months or years later, and they express their gratitude for the concern so many people have shown their loved ones. Have you read these posts, I have.
I'm just suggesting that once it's been settled and SW is no longer a 'suspect' (even now, she isn't), some very hurtful posts could be removed. I only suggest a temp mod thing so it's not extra work for the mods.

 

[NuttMegg]

Yes I am. Having the victim described as a bad mother repeatedly, a child abuser, when CW is the accused, is one thing but how can these remain once CW is proven to be the murderer of his daughters. Show me a thread where the victim is bashed like this?

I can just pónder it, according to the theory presented, when its said "I think SW killed the kids because.....", but that's not at all what's happening. The least details of her videos are being exploited to imply she may be guilty of child abuse because she let her little girls play on water slides; she wasn't really sick at all and omg she looked up a lyme disease support group; she made him do all the house work; she spent too much time on FB (when some spend 10x as much watching her videos); or lately, saying she is "accused of murder", without mentioning that her murderer said that after he slaughtered her and desecrated her body. I just leave for a day or two when all of this undercurrent dominates.

 

[MistyWaters]

Probably deposited them head first before he let them go into the murky depths of the crude oil. It's impossible to think a rational, sane person could do such a thing! We haven't learned about the way he killed them yet either, this story will only get worse.

Just adding something to think about regarding the oil tanks but as I haven’t followed this case very closely, I might be way out in left field.

But how do we know the oil tanks were full when the bodies of the girls were put inside? Maybe they were empty, access to the empty tanks was through the larger door at the bottom and the tanks were filled later from the smaller hole at the top?

I assume the larger bottom door was for the purpose of cleaning the tank of sludge and settlement. Was CW involved in the process, maybe even involved in bolting the larger doors shut prior to an oil shipment?

One reason I wonder if the tanks were frequently filled and emptied is the price of oil is quite high and when that occurs, often oil tanks are used for shorter term storage prior to sale.

 

[dgfred]

Haha... if anyone from all the posters here I have associated with thru the year deserves it- It would be you.
In fact... I consider you an honorary mod from here on out.
Book it Tricia.

 

[PommyMommy]

I wonder if CW just ambushed SW as soon as she came upstairs and settled into the couch. I also think there was some fighting back as his neck illustrates something. It looks somewhat like a bite mark and one can't do that to themselves.

Could also be a hickey (somebody here said it looked like a bite mark/shape), maybe from whenever he used the babysitter. Saturday, wasn't it?
MOO

 

[dgfred]

There's been family members who come on this site, most times it's months or years later, and they express their gratitude for the concern so many people have shown their loved ones. Have you read these posts, I have.
I'm just suggesting that once it's been settled and SW is no longer a 'suspect' (even now, she isn't), some very hurtful posts could be removed. I only suggest a temp mod thing so it's not extra work for the mods.

I realize what you were suggesting... but the mods do fine IMO.
A family member has to realize there are going to be negative post in an open forum regarding a murder case... as well as appreciating the positive ones.

 

[Mrspratcher]

Allabouttrial said: ↑
Would you possibly have the VI post? because I'm pretty sure they didn't say that they knew about the AP from the start.



@MassGuy The post you are referring to above by @Trinket78 agreed was posted Sept 10th but @Trinket78 amended that post on Sept 12th to state the following:


Trinket78, Sep 12, 2018
Hello, that is one post I wish I could re do. I shouldn’t of used the word beginning. It’s vague and leading. I do not know who it is or how long it was going on. I knew when everyone else did. That’s the best I can do with that one. I’m sorry

Hi @Trinket78 - can you kindly elaborate on what you meant by "beginning"?

 

[katydid23]

That's not what I saw. IMO he looked scared and stressed out. I wouldn't call a t-shirt spiffy.
jmo

Scared and stressed out is not the same thing as grief or regret or sorrow.

Scared and stressed out is about 'himself' ---scared for himself.
Stressed out about being caught.

No grief or sorrow was evident. And this was just one day after he crammed the girls into the tank.

 

[whisperOFwings]

We were talking about this a few days ago, my electric kettle on the counter is that circumference. You know the ones you just boil up water in.

Good morning everyone.
NuttMegg, I was measuring everything in my kitchen too!
The only thing remotely close is my KitchenAid mixer bowl.
So, Its slightly bigger than 8 inches, almost 9.
My pupper wasn't very happy with me.

 

[liltexans]

Just popping in today, but I noticed that some members are discussing the VIs in this case and possibly trying to figure out the identities of the VIs.

A reminder that it is a TOS violation to sleuth any WS member, not just VIs. Do not attempt to get another member to reveal his or her identity.

You are certainly allowed to discuss the content of posts from VIs and to respectfully ask questions of any member, including VIs. You may not harrass or badger another member, including a VI, into giving you an answer.

If you wish to speculate about a VIs identity, I suggest you take your conversations private using our private messaging system. Do not speculate on the thread in the open forum about any member's identity.

Thank you!

 

[PrimeSuspect]

As much as I abhor some of the posts digging into SW, I wouldn't want other posters to be allowed to remove them. If the shoe was on the other foot, I wouldn't want posters who disagreed with me to have the ability to remove mine. We wouldn't have any left!

haha, I'm probably going to be in the sin bin. I don't understand the double standards, either one is a victim or not. I've got posts removed, probably going to have more removed again, no biggie.

 

[flourish]

You are not selling a product to the general public I assume.

The timing (what was going on then) was my main question. Why would he do that?

Someone mentioned- he was tired of her posting gushy stuff about him when they were discussing seperation...
they didn't answer back when I asked- what does her gushy post have to do with HIS account? Why delete his when her post are the problem?

I'm guessing he didn't want to be tagged in her posts because then they show up on his page. He can turn off being tagged but maybe just deleting seemed "easier" to explain?

 

[Jennifer17]

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Just adding something to think about regarding the oil tanks but as I haven’t followed this case very closely, I might be way out in left field.

But how do we know the oil tanks were full when the bodies of the girls were put inside? Maybe they were empty, access to the empty tanks was through the larger door at the bottom and the tanks were filled later from the smaller hole at the top?

I assume the larger bottom door was for the purpose of cleaning the tank of sludge and settlement. Was CW involved in the process, maybe even involved in bolting the larger doors shut prior to an oil shipment?

One reason I wonder if the tanks were frequently filled and emptied is the price of oil is quite high and when that occurs, often oil tanks are used for shorter term storage prior to sale.

They were found 'immersed in oil' and numerous news sites have said that the tanks contained crude oil.
When you do think that they were filled? The bodies were recovered not even two days later and LE had the drone out not long after they disappeared.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Scared and stressed out is not the same thing as grief or regret or sorrow.

Scared and stressed out is about 'himself' ---scared for himself.
Stressed out about being caught.

No grief or sorrow was evident. And this was just one day after he crammed the girls into the tank.

I disagree. I know all about grief from personal experience as well as the others mentioned.
It's not uncommon to be stressed and scared for someone else, it's not always one sided.
jmo

 

[Gardener1850]

Yes I am. Having the victim described as a bad mother repeatedly, a child abuser, when CW is the accused, is one thing but how can these remain once CW is proven to be the murderer of his daughters. Show me a thread where the victim is bashed like this?

It happened in the Taylor Wright case.

Taylor was a former police officer who was murdered by a friend, but before anyone knew that she had been murdered her ex-husband was allowed to become a VI and post all kinds of victim-bashing claims about Taylor. He was sure she had simply taken off and was hiding from her responsibilities/hiding money. Fortunately we also had Taylor's girlfriend/roommate become a VI and defend her and say she would never do some of the things her ex was saying. IIRC, not one of the Ex's claims about Taylor turned out to be relevant to the case except for the fact that there was some money missing and it turned out that the "friend" who murdered Taylor had stolen the money. I don't think the allegations against Taylor's character were ever removed from the threads. That case is only 3 threads long if anyone wants to read it. Here is the first thread: : Found Deceased - FL - Taylor Wright, 33, Pensacola, 8 Sept 2017 #1 *Arrest*

ETA: Although I don't like the victim accusing posts I think the above case demonstrates how two VI's who knew the victim can have almost the exact same info and come to completely different conclusions about what happened. Just because someone doesn't like someone (or had a bitter divorce) it may lead them to make accusations or choose to believe the scenario least favorable to the victim. I think some of that is happening here as well. That's why so many posters have discussed how they evaluate whether or not they believe the different VI's words and how much weight they carry. MOO.

 

[NuttMegg]

Good morning everyone.
NuttMegg, I was measuring everything in my kitchen too!
The only thing remotely close is my KitchenAid mixer bowl.
So, Its slightly bigger than 8 inches, almost 9.
My pupper wasn't very happy with me.
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Cute!! I was trying to take a pic of my electric kettle with a measuring tape, but the batts were down in the camera. Your pup is a lot cuter!