Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #33

[roteone]

Not sure where you are from but where I am from it is second stream. Kids that are not bright academically, but have some mechanical skills.

Second stream is new to me too

 

[The Saint]

I don’t think they do Home EC anymore. You have just dated yourself Saint. Lol.

Hahaha. They probably call it something else like "Everyday Hacks."
The highlight of my Home EC class was a girl burning off her eyelashes and eyebrows after sticking her whole head into the oven to check on her brownies.

 

[Layla123]

I mean about the only ways to get the bodies in and the diameter of the opening.

There are only 2 entryways into those tanks. The expert figured out that C.W. wouldn't have had enough time to do what he did and make it to work on time any other way. I must add, I’ve never heard AB say which worksite he showed up at that day, but I did hear her say awhile back that he arrived there around 7:30am. I don’t know how she knew that.

 

[molly1255]

I think it is one of the major questions we all have and what helps keep us reading here. My daughter is about to become engaged. I like her boyfriend very much. But still, I have fears, stemming from reading cases here, which prove to us that we don't usually really know who we are marrying or dating, and it is frightening.

It is truly frightening. When I was younger and dating, it didn't occur to me that someone might not be who he presented himself to be. I learned quickly that this can and does happen. I now have two beautiful nieces who are dating and I really worry they might run into the wrong guy and not be able to recognize that he's potentially dangerous until it is too late. I can't imagine having a daughter - I would worry myself sick!

 

[The Saint]

Here are 8 inch dinner plates that show the scale of the oil tank hole opening (if it's really 8 inches).
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[roteone]

I think we won't know until trial whether that was reality.

But if he really has text message conversations between him and CW's texts as Ashley Banfield? claimed to see (or someone on staff), then I would believe it.

What reason would he have to communicate with that dude?

I guess I'm trying to separate (in my head) CW the married family guy with the CW who potentially murdered his whole family, but in saying that omg anything is possible with CW. I'm not familiar with AB in general only with watched links I have found on here etc. But I totally get your point.

 

[MassGuy]

It is truly frightening. When I was younger and dating, it didn't occur to me that someone might not be who he presented himself to be. I learned quickly that this can and does happen. I now have two beautiful nieces who are dating and I really worry they might run into the wrong guy and not be able to recognize that he's potentially dangerous until it is too late. I can't imagine having a daughter - I would worry myself sick!

Tell them to read “The Gift of Fear” by Gavin DeBecker. It’s something every person should read, especially women.

It covers just that sort of situation (romantic relationships that take a dangerous turn).

It’s better to get out early, than stick around until it’s too late.

 

[Layla123]

Layla, thanks for all the work! Did AB say how they obtained the info about taking 8 hours to drain the tanks to get the children out? Or was it info from a specialist who was saying if the tanks were full, as we heard before, then it would take 8 hours? Ie is this a new disclosure from le, or is it more theoretical? sorry if this has been discussed, I've been gone mostly for the last couple of days. Eta. I think you already answered..

The expert said he was sure they had to be carful not to damage any other evidence that might be in the tank, and the best way to do it would be to use a “Vacuum Truck,” that uses a hose and works like a shop vac. It would take about 8 hours to empty a nearly full tank using that method. All theoretical from an expert, not LE, based on the “nearly full” information provided by an unnamed source.

 

[roteone]

Hahaha. They probably call it something else like "Everyday Hacks."
The highlight of my Home EC class was a girl burning off her eyelashes and eyebrows after sticking her whole head into the oven to check on her brownies.

I must come from a simple land lol Cooking and Sewing in my day haha

 

[molly1255]

Hahaha. They probably call it something else like "Everyday Hacks."
The highlight of my Home EC class was a girl burning off her eyelashes and eyebrows after sticking her whole head into the oven to check on her brownies.

I took Home Ec in Jr. High so I can date myself too! The highlight of our class was our teacher ended up having a nervous breakdown in class one day and didn't come back for a very long time.

 

[tmar]

See photo for size of opening compared to AB’s face. It is 8” across.

Oh Layla.
Hearing and typing the info you have given us, must have been horrid for you.
Thank you for all your work.
I guess many of us, haven't heard anything as bad as hearing about 'the opening', where this monster, squeezed his 2 young daughters through.
We will have nightmares, remembering this.
So sad, that someone can resort to this.

 

[The Saint]

Thanks The Saint, Sounds like where I live too but we call it something different. So CW was considered good at shop?

Yes. CW was very talented in repairing cars. He went to a NASCAR school and dreamed of being a NASCAR mechanic. For our foreign sleuths, NASCAR is the big US auto racing circuit. It originated with Southern moonshiners who were distilling illegal alcohol. They souped up their car engines to be fast enough to outrun the law.

 

[NuttMegg]

The expert said he was sure they had to be carful not to damage any other evidence that might be in the tank, and the best way to do it would be to use a “Vacuum Truck,” that uses a hose and works like a shop vac. It would take about 8 hours to empty a nearly full tank using that method. All theoretical from an expert, not LE, based on the “nearly full” information provided by an unnamed source.

Thanks for answering. I hate to parachute in and ask a bunch of stuff that has already been answered. I'll have to read the threads.

 

[The Saint]

I took Home Ec in Jr. High so I can date myself too! The highlight of our class was our teacher ended up having a nervous breakdown in class one day and didn't come back for a very long time.

Did someone's soufflé fall?

 

[roteone]

Yess. CW was very talented in repairing cars. He went to a NASCAR school and dreamed of being a NASCAR mechanic. NASCAR is the big auto racing circuit. It originated with Southern moonshiners who were distilling illegal alcohol and souped up their car engines to be fast enough to could outrun the law.

Oh ok yeah heard of Nascar. Thanks for explaing.

 

[ColoradoLove]

I can confirm, through my source who works in the industry, that the specific tanks shown in the photo of the actual body disposal site, do only have 2 access points, that CW could NOT have drained the tanks to gain access to the manway/cleaning doors unless they were practically empty, and that putting the bodies of a 3 and 4 year old into the thief hatches at the top would have taken some effort, and possible damage to their bodies. This person also became extremely shaken and disturbed when I spoke to him about it and had some very vulgar things to say about CW, and the fact that he's trying to blame his dead, pregnant wife for this.

I honestly do not understand whatsoever how anyone can continue to defend CW and entertain his ridiculous version of events after knowing exactly what he did to Bella and Celeste's bodies. There were multiple other options to disappear them if he was in fact just panicked and terrified of how things looked. Any shred of doubt I had while reading to all these alternate theories for why he might be telling the truth about SW killing them is completely gone. Even if all he ever did was shove his daughters' bodies through those holes for some seemingly justified reason, that alone is enough for me to know without a shadow of a doubt that he is a sick, twisted person, capable of taking their lives.

MOO and I need to go kiss my sweet 5 year old in bed right now. Rest in paradise, lovely mama Shan'ann, sweet Bella, CeCe and Nico. Your light will shine on through us <3

 

[The Saint]

I think we won't know until trial whether that was reality.

But if he really has text message conversations between him and CW's texts as Ashley Banfield? claimed to see (or someone on staff), then I would believe it.

What reason would he have to communicate with that dude?

SEX!
TB said CW paid for his Juvaderm lip filler too.

 

[molly1255]

Tell them to read “The Gift of Fear” by Gavin DeBecker. It’s something every person should read, especially women.

It covers just that sort of situation (romantic relationships that take a dangerous turn).

It’s better to get out early, than stick around until it’s too late.

I do have that book, from long ago. That's a great idea! Thank you. I'm going to order copies for both of them to read. I'm also going to re-read it myself!

 

[NuttMegg]

I took Home Ec in Jr. High so I can date myself too! The highlight of our class was our teacher ended up having a nervous breakdown in class one day and didn't come back for a very long time.

Too funny. I took home ec too,and all i remember is you can't make jello with raw pineapple because of some enzyme!

 

[bonjoviblonde]

If the opening is 8 inches diameter, that's a 25 inch circumference. According to clothing charts a 5T childs size has a 22 inch waist and 25 inch hips. If that's the case, I guess those poor babies would fit however I'm sure there would have to be some type of manipulation.

 

[roteone]

I can confirm, through my source who works in the industry, that the specific tanks shown in the photo of the actual body disposal site, do only have 2 access points, that CW could NOT have drained the tanks to gain access to the manway/cleaning doors unless they were practically empty, and that putting the bodies of a 3 and 4 year old into the thief hatches at the top would have taken some effort, and possible damage to their bodies. This person also became extremely shaken and disturbed when I spoke to him about it and had some very vulgar things to say about CW, and the fact that he's trying to blame his dead, pregnant wife for this.

I honestly do not understand whatsoever how anyone can continue to defend CW and entertain his ridiculous version of events after knowing exactly what he did to Bella and Celeste's bodies. There were multiple other options to disappear them if he was in fact just panicked and terrified of how things looked. Any shred of doubt I had while reading to all these alternate theories for why he might be telling the truth about SW killing them is completely gone. Even if all he ever did was shove his daughters' bodies through those holes for some seemingly justified reason, that alone is enough for me to know without a shadow of a doubt that he is a sick, twisted person, capable of taking their lives.

MOO and I need to go kiss my sweet 5 year old in bed right now. Rest in paradise, lovely mama Shan'ann, sweet Bella, CeCe and Nico. Your light will shine on through us <3

Thank you for writing this.