Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #36

[Deleted member 229974]

Maybe the cars are what they get instead of money? Hard to imagine they get cars and cash. And trips. Sounds too good to be true.

Right. But that evening, he showed his true colors, IMO. The Thayers were brainstorming ways to find his missing family, trying to figure out where they might have gone, and how to search for them.

And while they were urgently planning how to find them, he showed total disinterest. He was ambivalent about searching and brainstorming. Of course, now we know that's because he had already disposed of them.

But if he is telling the truth about what really happened, wouldn't they have expected to see a grieving, broken man? Because they described a man who was focused on his cell and very interested in what others were thinking about his interviews. And he wanted Pizza. They didn't see a inconsolable, suffering man who had just buried his family.

Exactly. If what he said happened was true, why wouldn’t he simply tell the truth from the start? No, instead he hides them and then tells lies. Sorry, but he is guilty, imo.

 

[MsBetsy]

i am unaware of such posts could you quote them ? If so I would be interested as to the reason why because that could be important .

I asked for them as well. I remember that it was said that she did not think he was lying about him missing the kids and that what some saw as being deceitful she or he saw as being nervous but it was a bunch of posts and I have no idea how to do the paste and copy or whatever it is but there is a poster who was copying them so we were hoping they could find them.

 

[cailleach]

All I can say is that I thank God for some of the info we've received and perspectives that have been given here.

It's been the best strategy for the state that they never created, IMO.

I believe that the prosecution now knows almost the precise defense tactics that will be used. And thus they can be fully and completely prepared. Text messages. Emails. Social media. Medical records. Psych records. Financial records. Witness statements. Etc. Etc.

They will now be fully prepared for any mudslinging of Shanann. And they will be fully prepared to refute it with evidence and witnesses that knew and loved her and knew the intimate details of her life.

Justice is coming.

Indeed it is coming. With the autopsies in and no modification in charges, just got very real for CW. The next few days will be busy ones for the defense and the DA. I expect we'll know by Friday whether the court is going to grant the People's request to seal the autopsies. JMO.

 

[mtnlites]

Maybe the cars are what they get instead of money? Hard to imagine they get cars and cash. And trips. Sounds too good to be true.

It is not uncommon for MLMs to do all 3. Mary Kay does. The trips, cars, AND money are what entice people to become involved and stay. The trips and cars act as dangling carrots to encourage people to "try harder."

 

[Shekkiec]

Imo there has been quite a load of disclosures of SW that have led me to believe there is more to the story. I also believe imo she could have possibly had motive and emotion to strangle the girls. I At first doubted anyone but him could have done it all. I am in no way trying to pardon him of all wrong doing I am looking for justice as well. I am not linking any of his personality to a profile of family Annihilator. I can’t see this being preplanned. There are so many gaps for me to be filled. I’m happy some others feel this is open and shut but I think we have only touched upon the surface of what will be presented imo. This is an extremely emotional case. Those close to both of them may have good or bad things to say about either one. We have no idea what their phones and social media inboxes May reveal. It will be a ton of evidence and witnesses imo that will be presented to match both theories

 

[Doghairrules]

Harmony or one of the other wonderful mods will open this thread in the morning

@Tricia, It hurts me to see your post with a 445 am time stamp. I hope you got some sleep.

 

[SaguaroSpirit]

I wonder if CW abused his children, aside from killing them, and if that information is available from the autopsy. Maybe that is why he wanted the bodies degraded quickly.

That would elevate him past depravity.

I had wondered that myself. He seems to want to get rid of any forensic evidence. If his story is true, you would think he would want to preserve forensic evidence. You would think. IMOO.

 

[riolove77]

Imo there has been quite a load of disclosures of SW that have led me to believe there is more to the story. I also believe imo she could have possibly had motive and emotion to strangle the girls. I At first doubted anyone but him could have done it all. I am in no way trying to pardon him of all wrong doing I am looking for justice as well. I am not linking any of his personality to a profile of family Annihilator. I can’t see this being preplanned. There are so many gaps for me to be filled. I’m happy some others feel this is open and shut but I think we have only touched upon the surface of what will be presented imo. This is an extremely emotional case. Those close to both of them may have good or bad things to say about either one. We have no idea what their phones and social media inboxes May reveal. It will be a ton of evidence and witnesses imo that will be presented to match both theories

What are all the disclosures about SW that lead you to believe she had motive to strangle her children?

 

[Deleted member 230544]

Imo there has been quite a load of disclosures of SW that have led me to believe there is more to the story. I also believe imo she could have possibly had motive and emotion to strangle the girls. I At first doubted anyone but him could have done it all. I am in no way trying to pardon him of all wrong doing I am looking for justice as well. I am not linking any of his personality to a profile of family Annihilator. I can’t see this being preplanned. There are so many gaps for me to be filled. I’m happy some others feel this is open and shut but I think we have only touched upon the surface of what will be presented imo. This is an extremely emotional case. Those close to both of them may have good or bad things to say about either one. We have no idea what their phones and social media inboxes May reveal. It will be a ton of evidence and witnesses imo that will be presented to match both theories

Well said Shekkiec.

 

[Deleted member 230544]

What are all the disclosures about SW that lead you to believe she had motive to strangle her children?

You have to go back and read through all the threads riolove77 ~ too numerous to post.

 

[gitana1]

IMO it would not convince everyone. I can only imagine the arguments for why the overwhelming rush to justice on the part of MLM made a good man give up.

100% agree.

 

[MsBetsy]

Indeed it is coming. With the autopsies in and no modification in charges, **** just got very real for CW. The next few days will be busy ones for the defense and the DA. I expect we'll know by Friday whether the court is going to grant the People's request to seal the autopsies. JMO.

Now that I will be much more interested in knowing then why SW switched schools.

 

[k-mac]

VIs have the right to answer other people's questions or not. Colorado303 has been very helpful on a large number of questions by people. She chose not to answer that one. I think it might be in bad form, IMO, for us to begrudge her of this option.

agree
VIs are extremely valuable to us.
nobody begrudges her right to reply or not reply.
the criticism lies at making a post that leaves heaps of innuendo and misconseptions and misinterpretation of saying im not going to reply and you really don't want me too....types of answers.
its not exactly choosing not to reply and there is no discretion in that comment.

its a teasing reply and I don't think its justifiable.

jmo

 

[riolove77]

You have to go back and read through all the threads riolove77 ~ too numerous to post.

I've read them all. I don't recall seeing any solid motives on her part, just speculation from FB videos and posts.

 

[bonjoviblonde]

What are all the disclosures about SW that lead you to believe she had motive to strangle her children?

There hasn't been anything on SW that didn't come from opinions of her SM, other than one VI who said "what has she done", someone who was admittedly close to CW.

We may need to stop thinking CW is stupid because kudos to him, his attorney, his father or whoever came up with the SW did it defense. It's kind of working. I have faith though he will get what he deserves.

 

[LovesChocolate]

I wonder if CW abused his children, aside from killing them, and if that information is available from the autopsy. Maybe that is why he wanted the bodies degraded quickly.

That would elevate him past depravity.

As in regularly abusing them, or abused them that fateful night?

Either way, the damage that would have been done to their little bodies postmortem just to fit them through an 8-inch hole is going to make determining that very difficult. Ugh...it just makes me sick to think about.

 

[Deleted member 230544]

agree
VIs are extremely valuable to us.
nobody begrudges her right to reply or not reply.
the criticism lies at making a post that leaves heaps of innuendo and misconseptions and misinterpretation of saying im not going to reply and you really don't want me too....types of answers.
its not exactly choosing not to reply and there is no discretion in that comment.

its a teasing reply and I don't think its justifiable.

jmo

Well said k-mac

 

[DexterMorgan]

I asked for them as well. I remember that it was said that she did not think he was lying about him missing the kids and that what some saw as being deceitful she or he saw as being nervous but it was a bunch of posts and I have no idea how to do the paste and copy or whatever it is but there is a poster who was copying them so we were hoping they could find them.

It was on their very 1st day being verified plus the day before while they were waiting verification.

So start there

 

[gitana1]

@Tricia, It hurts me to see your post with a 445 am time stamp. I hope you got some sleep.

I know! I feel bad for the work and strife we've caused!!

 

[LovesChocolate]

I've read them all. I don't recall seeing any solid motives on her part, just speculation from FB videos and posts.

I agree, and since CW scrubbed his SM prior to the murders, no one gets to nit pick everything he said or did.