Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #41

[Marli61]

Can you tell from google maps if the entrance the oil pumpers use/d is next to the main ranch house? Just to the right of the Cervi gate if your facing the main ranch entrance? If it was I wonder if the ranch had cameras both for the ranch hands and the Anadarko's, or if one of the ranch hands saw him driving by. AB made is sound like almost pitch black, it is not that dark that time of year/morning, not even requiring head lights.

I don't have time to look...but it wouldn't be a stretch imo for the Cervi Ranch to have cameras at all of those gates.

 

[Seattle1]

If they did, I missed that.

It is an incredible break for LE that this guy repositioned it.

The question is if CW knew about the camera in the first place, and if he knew about the true orientation of it.

IMO, the footage surprised even the homeowner. I also believe NUA was aware of the footage before CW was. MOO

 

[esayer]

Ah! Missed the edit limit for the end. It was a bunch of videos and they made me sad again. Layla will have a better post

 

[Serena Angelique]

Can you tell from google maps if the entrance the oil pumpers use/d is next to the main ranch house? Just to the right of the Cervi gate if your facing the main ranch entrance? If it was I wonder if the ranch had cameras both for the ranch hands and the Anadarko's, or if one of the ranch hands saw him driving by. AB made is sound like almost pitch black, it is not that dark that time of year/morning, not even requiring head lights.

Here is a video from YouTube that takes a “condensed” drive to the tanks @Cervi. The driver can only get so close to the site because it’s private property so you can’t see if there are cameras, but you get an idea of how remote and far away the site is from basically everything.

 

[Gardener1850]

Well, that would be ironic, wouldn't it?

Yes, I mean clearly HE wasn't practicing his faith (I doubt he had any to begin with). But he would know SW's answer without having to ask that question. JMO.

 

[nwmouse]

CW doesn't seem to be the confrontational type. I highly doubt he asked SW to get an abortion, even if he wanted her to.

Disclaimer: MOO!

Yup, being non-confrontational is more in keeping with his "stoic" fake demeanor. Mr Long-Suffering Nice Guy.
IMO he has forgotten how to live an authentic life because everything for him is about pretending.
And I'll bet he started pretending to be "normal" and to fit in with normal society from his early years.
The thing about pit-bulls is that they appear all nice and sweet, and would never hurt a fly.
Until that pit-bull chews off a child's face out of the blue.
CW is like nice, waggy-tailed Mr Average Pit-Bull Family guy. Then he turns and bites.
The rest is history.
MOO.

 

[MassGuy]

IMO, the footage surprised even the homeowner. I also believe NUA was aware of the footage before CW was. MOO

We know that he was aware of it after the fact, because he referenced them in those tv interviews.

He very well may have had absolutely no idea beforehand.

 

[nwmouse]

Thank you! I’m still trying to understand some of you pros acronyms it will take me a bit lol

Welcome! This trial is going to be a bumpy ride so buckle in!

 

[nwmouse]

We know that he was aware of it after the fact, because he referenced them in those tv interviews.

He very well may have had absolutely no idea beforehand.

Shows what a poor planner and strategist he is, and that he's as sharp as a tortoise on Prozac.

 

[esayer]

To anyone who watched AB today - did they say whether the neighbor had any clue if CW or SW were aware his family had a camera at all? TIA.

They didn't say any quotes from the neighbor, it was an inside person to the investigation, I probably missed some, Layla will have a better update

 

[Seattle1]

We know that he was aware of it after the fact, because he referenced them in those tv interviews.

He very well may have had absolutely no idea beforehand.

Yup. CW timeline was not his memory, it was evidence. MOO

 

[WildWest]

O/t. There are lots and lots and lots of studies on secure attachment which means responding to the crying child.

Lots of studies on infants who have failure to thrive. Info on lamguage disorders.

I wonder about the early lives of the FA.

I wonder if will be something that appears with CW. That seems to be common with the FA guys that are posted.

And of course the name Chris.

Hey Human, is Lamguage a typo language or is it for something else? (sincere ) I read up on secure attachment in the past and I'm curious.

Here is a video from YouTube that takes a “condensed” drive to the tanks @Cervi. The driver can only get so close to the site because it’s private property so you can’t see if there are cameras, but you get an idea of how remote and far away the site is from basically everything.

Thanks Serena What I was looking at (sorry I do not have it handy) was the coordinates of the site given in the warrentless affidavit, then I zoomed and I'm curious if that is the gate the oil pumpers used. The video you posted is very interesting, but they did not have legal access either so it was a lot of trying get there with out tresspassing kwim?

 

[pocketaccent]

I doubt he would ask her that because of their being Catholic (most Catholics I know are very pro-life). He probably skipped right to the idea that Shanann had to die and wasn't concerned with the baby. JMO.

I'm trying to find out when it all began. When did he start hating his family? When did he decide to kill them all.

It has been two months and every time I think about this case, it's still shocking and appalling and sickening and we still don't have an answer to why. I'm afraid we will never know the whys.

 

[WildWest]

dup

 

[gitana1]

Yup, LP had the most adorable, mischievous smile I have ever seen and I think baby Connor would have looked just like her.
She deserved far better than that lousy, convicted killer SP.

SW deserved far better than CW who not only admitted murdering her and his unborn son, he then had the audacity to say she killed her own toddlers before he desecrated their little bodies.

Scott Peterson is evil, but CW is even worse by blaming his 4 month pregnant wife of murdering her OWN DAUGHTERS!
As a woman and a mommy that is one of the most evil, cruel, disgusting things anyone could accuse us of.

Edited to add a MOO.

I added that Rachel Entwistle was similarly described as "vivacious and outgoing".

I actually think Laci wasn't "soft" and trusting. Her family and friends have described her as decisive, IIRC. Sometimes opinionated. They believe she would've never tolerated him having an affair. She would've blown up and left him.

Scott's mom didn't like her much.

Let me see what I can find about the others.

Jennifer Blagg was described as gentle and sweet. A devoted and protective mother (Michael was likewise described as protective).
Super social:

Killer Dad

Sherri Colemman was described as worldly, tough, "fun, uninhibited and wildly playful." (Christopher was described as a Godly young man, reserved, and the quietest and gentlest of his siblings, who cried when an animal was killed during a hunt and never got angry).

A Family Erased: The Chris Coleman Story

I can't find much about Mary Jane Longo. She was 7 years older. Interestingly, when she and the kids went missing, her husband claimed she was having an affair. (She was a devoted Jehovah's Witness).

 

[human]

Hey Human, is Lamguage a typo language or is it for something else? (sincere ) I read up on secure attachment in the past and I'm curious.


Thanks Serena What I was looking at (sorry I do not have it handy) was the coordinates of the site given in the warrentless affidavit, then I zoomed and I'm curious if that is the gate the oil pumpers used. The video you posted is very interesting, but they did not have legal access either so it was a lot of trying get there with out tresspassing kwim?

Lol. Yes. language disorders.

 

[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

My theory is his weight loss and physical transformation invited attention from outside the marriage, an affair and began to change his perspective on his life. SW appeared to be the leader/planner and what he previously viewed as OK was now viewed as irritants and obstacles to a different life that he possibly now wanted.

 

[Best of What's Around]

I'm trying to find out when it all began. When did he start hating his family? When did he decide to kill them all.

It has been two months and every time I think about this case, it's still shocking and appalling and sickening and we still don't have an answer to why. I'm afraid we will never know the whys.

It may be hate, but it could also be apathy. If you can't love, can you feel hate? Maybe that is why he never or rarely shown anger that we know of. Some of these FAs don't seem to hate their families as much as they were never able to have a real, loving relationship with anyone. If sociopathic, they learned to show love, but not feel it. I would not be surprised if he was never in a rage nor particularly angry that night.

EDITED TO ADD: It may even have been thrilling. He did mention a fast beating heart when he was interviewed.

 

[nwmouse]

I added that Rachel Entwistle was similarly described as "vivacious and outgoing".

I actually think Laci wasn't "soft" and trusting. Her family and friends have described her as decisive, IIRC. Sometimes opinionated. They believe she would've never tolerated him having an affair. She would've blown up and left him.

Scott's mom didn't like her much.

Let me see what I can find about the others.

Jennifer Blagg was described as gentle and sweet. A devoted and protective mother (Michael was likewise described as protective).
Super social:

Killer Dad

Sherri Colemman was described as worldly, tough, "fun, uninhibited and wildly playful." (Christopher was described as a Godly young man, reserved, and the quietest and gentlest of his siblings, who cried when an animal was killed during a hunt and never got angry.

A Family Erased: The Chris Coleman Story

I can't find much about Mary Jane Longo. She was 7 years older. Interestingly, when she and the kids went missing, her husband claimed she was having an affair. (She was a devoted Jehovah's Witness).

BBM: I don't think SP's mother would have liked any woman who married her "precious" offspring Scott.
No woman was good enough for little Scotty and Laci was a perfect DIL, imho. I think most moms would have been delighted to have had Laci as a DIL, she was a class act and would have been an amazing mom if SP hadn't murdered her and Connor.
As for the other women you have quoted, the one thing they have in common is being unlucky enough to fall for the wrong guy.
As an attorney what do you think, Gitana1?

 

[PommyMommy]

Hey Human, is Lamguage a typo language or is it for something else? (sincere ) I read up on secure attachment in the past and I'm curious.

Thanks Serena What I was looking at (sorry I do not have it handy) was the coordinates of the site given in the warrentless affidavit, then I zoomed and I'm curious if that is the gate the oil pumpers used. The video you posted is very interesting, but they did not have legal access either so it was a lot of trying get there with out tresspassing kwim?

I don't know if this one will help or not...

There is also this one with an aerial view:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=236239767095042

The GPS coordinates are: 40.21624374, -104.36667