Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #42

[Thepoet]

That is funny, I just pictured someone kneeling over a bin bag with a magnifying glass lol.

Yep, that was me. . . .Sherlock!

 

[gitana1]

My point exactly. Occams Razor. The print would have to be made with enough force to leave an imprint and/or oils/sweat. The bag would need to then be left relatively unmoved (discarded?). Where was that most likely to take place? The oil tanks.

I wonder why he'd be barefoot.

 

[Seattle1]

Sorry. I see it was already posted.

You can delete it. It's also a misleading headline - not by you. The Coroner can petition the autopsy reports not disclosed.

 

[Mellowmelly]

We should know very quickly...
since the report is done, and there are pending records requests (and I’m sure more coming in daily), they are supposed to respond to the requests within a short timeframe (days?).

I would assume they would have to petition before that response deadline ends... otherwise there’s nothing permitting the records to be withheld.

Thoughts?

I’m glad we have professionals on here to explain things in simple terms, much appreciated!

 

[Thepoet]

After discussion about the hole size I wondered if he could've shoved the girls' bodies through using his feet. Maybe his foot print was on a plastic bag surrounding them.

That's what I surmised, in some detail, on page 33 to PommyMommy. He covered the body (sorry) to keep from touching it/seeing it or as a barrier to any blood. He took off his shoe to avoid blood, etc., in the crevices of the sole. Feet can be wiped off and washed. And he pushed down with his foot (legs are stronger than arms and have more leverage). He then tossed the bag down, over the side and forgot about it.

 

[molly1255]

I wonder why he'd be barefoot.

Good question. With all of the hideous things he did that day, I wouldn't be surprised if he was running around barefoot and naked out there. Wish I was kidding.

 

[TitoTaco]

You can delete it. It's also a misleading headline - not by you. The Coroner can petition the autopsy reports not disclosed.

I think I did?!! Thanks! I’m still learning to navigate this site!

 

[Thepoet]

I have to go run some errands. (SIGH!) Thanks for all the great opinions, updates, and responses. It's all appreciated. I hope everyone has a great weekend and be safe.

 

[Gardener1850]

After discussion about the hole size I wondered if he could've shoved the girls' bodies through using his feet. Maybe his foot print was on a plastic bag surrounding them.

Yes, I have thought that as a possibility as well. There are many possible explanations for how a bare footprint could have been made, I think. I wonder what the evidence will show? And what story will CW tell to try to explain it?

 

[Gardener1850]

Good question. With all of the hideous things he did that day, I wouldn't be surprised if he was running around barefoot and naked out there. Wish I was kidding.

I'm afraid to ask... but I'll take a chance.
Would you care to expound upon your theory molly1255?

 

[Nikynoo]

We should know very quickly...
since the report is done, and there are pending records requests (and I’m sure more coming in daily), they are supposed to respond to the requests within a short timeframe (days?).

I would assume they would have to petition before that response deadline ends... otherwise there’s nothing permitting the records to be withheld.

Thoughts?

It says 3 business days unless extended for extenuating circumstances - Colorado Open Records Act & Colorado Criminal Justice Records Act | Attorney General - State of Colorado

 

[Nikynoo]

My point exactly. Occams Razor. The print would have to be made with enough force to leave an imprint and/or oils/sweat. The bag would need to then be left relatively unmoved (discarded?). Where was that most likely to take place? The oil tanks.

Yes, I agree.

 

[Amandaaa]

It says 3 business days unless extended for extenuating circumstances - Colorado Open Records Act & Colorado Criminal Justice Records Act | Attorney General - State of Colorado

Thanks for checking

So next week we should either have the reports or know if they petitioned

 

[tmar]

You're right! All we have, and it's not evidence at all, is the self-serving accusation of an admitted liar and confessed killer.

Thanks Thepoet: We should add this line into many of our replies.
A case built up here, sometimes, on the 'words of a confessed killer, and known LIAR'.
MOO.

 

[WildWest]

Perhaps he bagged and then dressed? I agree that Massguys scenario is more likely at present.

Unless he wore flip flops to the site and they somehow came off?

Maybe he had some of their urine/blood/saliva on his feet? (in the house).

 

[tmar]

I'm on thread #3...

I'm never gonna get all of this read. *sigh*

You will find leyash, a lot is repeated, so it will be faster than you now think.

 

[Nikynoo]

Maybe he had some of their urine/blood/saliva on his feet? (in the house).

Good point!

 

[tmar]

Boy would I like to see the autopsy reports. I’m sure times of death will give some clarity to the timeline of events.

Especially if the girls were murdered, before SW's arrival, back at home.
This would shatter his story completely.

 

[tmar]

That may be the case, but he sure thought of a good hiding place, so must have some smarts there

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He works there. it is easy: just do the 'act' and continue to work.
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[Nikynoo]

<modsnip>
He works there. it is easy: just do the 'act' and continue to work.
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I disagree. It was smart because they weren't picked up by the drone and the disposal place was not obvious. CW had to tell LE where they were.