Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW GUILTY* #46

[Colorado303]

How?!?! How delusional can you be??? He has now plead guilty and will be spending the rest of your life in prison. I highly doubt an innocent


I totally agree!!!!! Im sure that it is like several people have said. Something about a psych eval that portrays him as being psychotic or the like. If it is a hippa document about him- i think it should be released but i know it has to go by what the law says.

And thank you so much for all of your input in this case! It has been a pleasure reading your responses. They have been so respectful. I only wish we could have met you under different circumstances.

Thank you. Me too.

 

[NuttMegg]

Wait.... what?! Am I seeing plea deal? I've been in study/election mode all day. I gotta catch up!

u have a treat in store.....

 

[SaguaroSpirit]

Wait.... what?! Am I seeing plea deal? I've been in study/election mode all day. I gotta catch up!

Oh, my...you have a lot of posts to catch up on!!!!!

 

[MassGuy]

A little insight into CW’s decision to plead guilty.

“There was physical evidence and his own words that would convict him,” the source close to him says. “His story didn’t work. He got angry. He didn’t want to plead guilty. But he really had no choice, considering the evidence. It took a little bit of time for him to come around, but he did.”

How Chris Watts Decided to Plead to Killing Family: 'Eventually He Acknowledged His Life Was Over'

 

[LovesChocolate]

No. She was the victim. Why would they charge him with domestic violence if she was the one that did it? He killed her and all 3 babies.

Yes of course, but I wanted to be certain I am interpreting it correctly because I'm about to argue online elsewhere. Thanks!

 

[Tigerlily75]

I have been silently reading since the threads reopened last week, but life too busy for me to comment.

You guys.....TODAY. This was the outcome I had hoped for since August 15th, but I did not think would happen, especially after following several SM groups who support CW. I thought for sure the absurdity of CWs claim and the sheer number of people believing it would make it to trial. For SW family...oh how I hope they can begin to heal now. I don't know how I could. This loss is just too profound.

For clarification, though, the domestic violence portion of the charges - is there any chance that could relate to SW inflicting domestic violence on CW?

No, most definitely not. It relates to him killing a family member that he had a domestic relationship with. Thus it was in the context of domestic violence. As opposed to killing a random stranger, for example.

 

[Moonracer]

I don't know how to feel. I don't want him to be able to clam up and never have the truth about him really come out. He took their lives but keeps his. That is depressing, to say the least.

If the truth (details) does come out, I'm not going to read about the facts, but I hope criminologists, stronger sleuthers, counselors, and those who may be in danger read them and study on them.

I wonder if the family wants anything to be released, or if they are just too heartsick. I think their feelings should be consulted. JMO.

What a nightmare one individual has caused to so many innocents, with Shan'ann, Bella, and CeCe of course being the most wronged by this evil person. JMO.

ETA Baby Nico. I'm sorry, Baby Nico, for not listing you properly.

 

[Seattle1]

I was. I must have sat behind the “murder sesh” tweeter as I was two rows behind the Watts family. CW looked like he has gained weight, his face wasn’t as angular if that makes sense. The bullet proof vest was snug to say the least.

Thank you!! Beard?

 

[MCDRAW]

I think it will be released too. Nikolas Cruz's interrogation video was released. Hours of it. I am also in the camp that wants CW to have to SAY out loud what he did. I don't know if he has to do that at sentencing but I wish it was part of the plea deal.

The DA said, they discussed that but none of them believed that he would give a completely truthful account. But he did not say if it was required. I took from what he said that it wouldn't be. JMO

 

[Tigerlily75]

"Shanann Watts' mother, father and brother were in court but chose not to speak with the media.
Mr Rourke said he was not willing to dismiss any charges in exchange for the promise of guilty pleas."

Dad admits to killing family to avoid death penalty

Nothing new just posting from the Australian media but I do like DA Rourke stating was not willing to dismiss any charges in exchange for a promise of guilty please!

Yep! He said they charged him with what they believed he had actually done so they were not going to compromise on that.

 

[Deleted member 229974]

DA says murder "after deliberation" only in conjunction with SW. But with the kids he says just "murder". So what does this mean? The kids were possibly rage killings?

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=330076887597946

After watching that video, I feel sick. The reality of what he did to those innocent lives defies all reason. I pray there is a Hell and he pays for all eternity. God bless the families.

 

[MCDRAW]

Yep! He said they charged him with what they believed he had actually done so they were not going to compromise on that.

That is why I believe this was a very good plea deal.

 

[MassGuy]

That is why I believe this was a very good plea deal.

It certainly was. It was something I hoped for all along, but never expected to happen.

Glad to be wrong.

 

[LittleFleurDeLys]

I hope that I do not get banned for this.
I want to believe that Shannon and her babies are in a better place.
But, I just do not.
Shannon, her daughters and Nico are all dead.
Their potential happy lives killed in one night of a murdering frenzy.
By their beloved Husband and Father.
I wish that I believe that Shannon and here children are happily floating around in heaven.
But, I do not.
I think that their lives were taken by Chris and that they are dead.
Period. Snuffed out.

Very honest post! But I think that these thoughts are are helpful to those who need to simply carry on. When I was 12 years old my pup got run over by a car while my brother was taking him outside for a walk. It happend near our home and I could hear him bark and than suddenly I heard nothing anymore and a voice deep inside me "told" me not to look out of the window. I didn't. A few minutes later my brother rushed back in our house, holding my tiny dog (he was still very young) in his arms, who seemed to be "sleeping" but was slightly bleeding out of his snout, told me he got hit by a car. Even they drove instantly to the vet I felt it was over.
The next days/weeks/months I could only survive due to the "imagination" that my dog was save somehow up there in "heaven" and that we will meet again someday.

Years later my father died after he was diagnosed with lung cancer. It was the toughest time of my life. Once again that thought of him being somewhere up in heaven and the hope that I could see him again just helped me to carry on and still does. Even if this all are just fantasies and those thoughts should never "mask" crimes like this (I hope that everyone is still aware that four beautiful lifes were taken!) some people just might find comfort in it.

 

[MsBetsy]

I had always thought that when CW talked to his father before his confession, they came up with his story together. Now I am thinking maybe that's what he told his dad, and all this time they believed him. Apparently they broke down and were weeping in court. I wonder if they had been in denial the whole time, and the reality is just hitting them. Either way, I think he accepted the plea deal in order to save his family, and I would hope Shananns family, from the pain of a trial. As well as saving his family from the pain of his being sentenced to death. Jmo

 

[ZsaZsa]

Wait.... what?! Am I seeing plea deal? I've been in study/election mode all day. I gotta catch up!

Chris Watts Reaches Plea Deal In Murder Case To Avoid Death Penalty

Here you go.....

 

[MCDRAW]

It certainly was. It was something I hoped for all along, but never expected to happen.

Glad to be wrong.

Me too!

 

[violet101]

I was. I must have sat behind the “murder sesh” tweeter as I was two rows behind the Watts family. CW looked like he has gained weight, his face wasn’t as angular if that makes sense. The bullet proof vest was snug to say the least.

Any insight you can give us about being there that hasn’t been mentioned? Was he actually crying like reported?

 

[MassGuy]

I had always thought that when CW talked to his father before his confession, they came up with his story together. Now I am thinking maybe that's what he told his dad, and all this time they believed him. Apparently they broke down and were weeping in court. I wonder if they had been in denial the whole time, and the reality is just hitting them. Either way, I think he accepted the plea deal in order to save his family, and I would hope Shananns family, from the pain of a trial. As well as saving his family from the pain of his being sentenced to death. Jmo

I agree with you on everything but the reason he took the plea.

I think he came to the realization that he had no chance of prevailing in court, and didn’t want to risk the death penalty.

I think his motivations were entirely selfish ones. His actions on the night of the murders, and the disposal of his children, don’t jibe with a guy who has a conscience, and cares at all about dragging the families through the pain of a trial.

I think that on sentencing day, we will finally learn some crucial details.

Damning ones.

 

[MsBetsy]

This is the angle that those defending him are going to rely on. They will say he only admitted it because he was being strung up.

And that he is a hero for sacrifying himself for his wife.

 

[Tigerlily75]

I still can't believe that people believed him especially if they watched his interview. That showed him as a liar. There were people that took the word of a killer, he had already admitted to killing two people, not only believed him but helped him destroy her reputation or allowed it to go on. Shame on them. It broke my heart for Shan'ann's family. They were victimized over and over again. And made what was already a horrible tragedy, that much more painful.

I said right from the beginning that there is nothing special about Chris Watts. He’s just another man who murdered his family. He wasn’t the first and he won’t be the last. Humans are a predictable bunch. We have patterns of behavior. We don’t do “firsts”. His insane, ridiculous scenario would have been a first.

As if, AS IF, you wouldn’t get medical help for your dying children if you were an innocent and loving father. Scream, yell, ring 911, bash on the neighbors door. SOMETHING.

It really baffled me that anyone was willing to give this guy any credence, like something new and amazing had happened.

He’s not special. He never has been. He’s just a textbook murdering family annihilator, like all the rest.