Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW GUILTY* #49

[ZsaZsa]

I wish there were a laughing option instead of just a like button.

We have emoticons!

 

[smucklecrumble]

“Put it that way” sounds suspiciously like “I’ll just leave it at that” JMO

Apple didn’t fall far from the tree. In fact it’s hanging on a loose branch.....moo

 

[bonjoviblonde]

They need to get in touch with famed lawyer Vinny Gambini. He was able to get his nephew and his friend off of a murder charge, when they allegedly shot and killed a store clerk in rural Alabama.

Similarly, these two were railroaded by an overzealous prosecutor, and shoddy police work.

Vinny and his feisty fiancé, Mona Lisa Vito, are held in high esteem in legal circles.

Hopefully they can help the Watts family out!

Cracking up picturing Mama Watts looking up Vinnie Gambini in the yellow pages.

 

[LovesChocolate]

These interviews are atrocious. Prior to these, I was believing the Watts to be silently grieving, respectful of the Rzucek family, horrified at what their own son did. After seeing his mother flap her jaw, I have completely changed my opinion on them. So disgusting!!

And a letter. Right. What would the DA benefit from destroying evidence that could help his client.

I really, really hope the autopsies contain this overwhelming evidence we've all been waiting for. I have been fearing the girls' TOD will be inconclusive, further fueling the pro-CWgroups. It would be glorious to see them all eat crow.

 

[katydid23]

Scott Reisch has commented on this Punked YouTube video that he is considering taking the case

Doesn't he have to be asked by the client? His parents cannot hire him.

 

[smucklecrumble]

Scott Reisch has commented on this Punked YouTube video that he is considering taking the case

Surely he can consider all he likes but he can’t take the case unless CW seeks alternative counsel smh

 

[katydid23]

After. He said he’s talked with family and is considering case.

The family does not have the authority to hire him though. He is 33 yrs old and that decision is up to him.

 

[bonjoviblonde]

It seems Cindy is choosing to ignore everything Chris did. She seems to think this will go to trial and somehow prove SW killed the kids and then voila Chris can come home.

 

[smucklecrumble]

The family does not have the authority to hire him though. He is 33 yrs old and that decision is up to him.

This! If he was ruled mentally incompetent we would know it by now....you have the right to an attorney not the right to your mummy nor as an adult do you have to listen to your mummy, CWs mum needs to wise up imo

 

[ZsaZsa]

These interviews are atrocious. Prior to these, I was believing the Watts to be silently grieving, respectful of the Rzucek family, horrified at what their own son did. After seeing his mother flap her jaw, I have completely changed my opinion on them. So disgusting!!

And a letter. Right. What would the DA benefit from destroying evidence that could help his client.

I really, really hope the autopsies contain this overwhelming evidence we've all been waiting for. I have been fearing the girls' TOD will be inconclusive, further fueling the pro-CWgroups. It would be glorious to see them all eat crow.

Me too! When people asked why they had not commented, my response was - What could they possibly say other than apologize profusely? Boy, was I ever wrong? I gave them credit for not showing up to the funerals, thinking they would not want to cause any distraction for SW's family, even though I was sure they would be anxious to see and touch the caskets of the children before they were gone for ever.
More fool me.

 

[liltexans]

It seems Cindy is choosing to ignore everything Chris did. She seems to think this will go to trial and somehow prove SW killed the kids and then voila Chris can come home.

Yes. He’s been convicted. He waived his right to a trial. He is no longer charged with these unspeakable crimes. He is convicted of them. Only sentencing remains.

 

[Charlot123]

I am astounded that they couldn't even muster up ONE nice or kind of nice thing to say about their murdered daughter-in-law. Even something generic like, "Shan'ann was so good to her mother and was a great big sister to her brother."

Instead, they just criticize and bash and blame. Apparently their parents didn't teach them that speaking ill of the dead is not a good look, especially when the person has been murdered by your own son.

I can imagine where it is coming from.

My grandparents raised my mom and her brother very devoted to each other.

However, if there was one thing best unifying my mom and her mother, it was their dislike of my uncle's first wife. You just had to say her name, and you'd get an earful. At this, both my mom and my grandma socially were very graceful, and kept perfect facade.

They expected their son/brother to marry someone else. They didn't think his wife was a good choice. And while I always heard from external sources that his ex-fiancee suited him better, after all, the decision was my uncle's one.

My grandma was not alive when he left his family to marry his second wife, but my mom, I know, was quite supportive of her as opposed to the First Wife.

And from paternal side, I have seen enough family dynamics to understand that being an in-law is not peaches.

As to CW's parents, their whole world turned upside down. If, as some say, they knew about AP, then perhaps they heard a very brushed up version from CW, and they probably expected a very different ending to the affair. Instead, they heard horrible news. I imagine how one's brain would refuse to think logically.

But now CW has confessed. And his parents either have to say to themselves, "yes, our son has killed our granddaughters", and live with the guilt for giving birth to him all their lives, or use the defense they are now resorting to. (Which is: "SW took away our boy and totally changed him. We don't know what she did, used poisons, incantations, what not, probably, but he went mad and killed them". This is why they speak about the "trigger").

This is their today's defence. "SW's fault". But - it is the last bastion, and it's very shaky. I wonder who will be the first one to surrender (my guess is, it will be the dad), but they will have to accept the truth.

I hope it happens before the sentencing. I think they will never leave him, though.

 

[MassGuy]

I can imagine where it is coming from.

My grandparents raised my mom and her brother very devoted to each other.

However, if there was one thing best unifying my mom and her mother, it was their dislike of my uncle's first wife. You just had to say her name, and you'd get an earful. At this, both my mom and my grandma socially were very graceful, and kept perfect facade.

They expected their son/brother to marry someone else. They didn't think his wife was a good choice. And while I always heard from external sources that his ex-fiancee suited him better, after all, the decision was my uncle's one.

My grandma was not alive when he left his family to marry his second wife, but my mom, I know, was quite supportive of her as opposed to the First Wife.

And from paternal side, I have seen enough family dynamics to understand that being an in-law is not peaches.

As to CW's parents, their whole world turned upside down. If, as some say, they knew about AP, then perhaps they heard a very brushed up version from CW, and they probably expected a very different ending to the affair. Instead, they heard horrible news. I imagine how one's brain would refuse to think logically.

But now CW has confessed. And his parents either have to say to themselves, "yes, our son has killed our granddaughters", and live with the guilt for giving birth to him all their lives, or use the defense they are now resorting to. (Which is: "SW took away our boy and totally changed him. We don't know what she did, used poisons, incantations, what not, probably, but he went mad and killed them". This is why they speak about the "trigger").

This is their today's defence. "SW's fault". But - it is the last bastion, and it's very shaky. I wonder who will be the first one to surrender (my guess is, it will be the dad), but they will have to accept the truth.

I hope it happens before the sentencing. I think they will never leave him, though.

I strongly believe that his mom will never accept that he did this, no matter what evidence is revealed.

If there was a video of him committing this crime, she would claim it was doctored.

She will live the rest of her days in denial.

 

[SouthernSleuther]

Scott Reisch has commented on this Punked YouTube video that he is considering taking the case

*eye roll*

 

[bonjoviblonde]

I strongly believe that his mom will never accept that he did this, no matter what evidence is revealed.

If there was a video of him committing this crime, she would claim it was doctored.

She will live the rest of her days in denial.

Agree. Shanann is dead and Mama Watts is still in competition with her. She will never give in.

 

[Jennifer17]

Agree. Shanann is dead and Mama Watts is still in competition with her. She will never give in.

Then she will go to her grave, a bitter twisted woman, where Shanann was loved by anyone who really knew her and lots of people who did not know her.

 

[LovesChocolate]

Even Ted Bundy's mother refused to accept what he had done. I think she even claimed he would never kill women or children (paraphrasing here) despite being present for the evidence that nailed him.

I understand a mother's love. I am a mother and you will always love your children. But I just can't see being that...dense.

 

[tmar]

Yes, they are. It's a bunch of hooey. MOO

How could SW 'isolate' him from his family? He had a cell phone. He could have called any of his family members any and every day. He worked at least 8 hours a day. How would she stop him from calling home? Or texting or emailing or face timing them?

Who. exactly denied them' contact with their son? If Chris had wanted to call them from jail, during his allotted phone time, he could have. His attorneys could not prevent that.

I think they are lashing out at the wrong people. JMO

CW's parents lashed out at SW for isolating him.
She must have hidden his phone, by wedging it, into the sofa, for YEARS.

Similarly now, CW was prevented from calling them from jail.
Perhaps CW's lawyers lost CW's parents phone numbers, and could not dial for CW.
Poor CW, just couldn't do this alone.

Now, regarding the 'Plea Deal'.
Of coarse, these lawyers did wrong, as hid evidence, etc.
What next!
MOO.

 

[DexterMorgan]

His parents and family are probably just trying to make money off this. I would pay them no mind.

You want evidence of why?

Ask his lawyer about the 100s of premeditated Internet searches he has done. Start there. Jmo

No wonder he doesn't want to see them.

 

[SouthernSleuther]

He is a personal injury lawyer. How many murder trIals has he been on I wonder...
Does he realize CW is the one hiring and firing here, not his mother?

Not to mention a DP case...