Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW GUILTY* #56

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  • #661
A ton of unanswered questions have been answered by this discovery document.

I’ve spent a couple hours skimming it, and it’s more than I could have hoped for.

I’ve downloaded it so I can search for particular keywords that I am interested in. It makes it much easier.
 
  • #662
Page 490 - CW responded to an email on 8/15/18 to state that he was in on a fantasy football league!!! Clearly he was feeling very sad and remorseful about his family.
Wow he really thought he was getting away with this! Dump babies in oil tanks and thinking about fantasy football hours later
 
  • #663
Stop. You must be joking.
I completely believe it. I think he spent his whole life studying normal human behavior. I still believe that's why he picked the topic of relationships to research and present for his communications class. Imo
 
  • #664
@PommyMommy

We’re going to need to ask you for a small favor.

We’re going to need you to go through these 1960 pages of discovery, and compile it into an easy to read, single page document.

If you could get that done in the next half hour or so, that would be fantastic.

If not, that’s fine, just make sure you cancel your Thanksgiving plans. I’m sure your family will understand...
Hair appointment, cooking, but now indexing...on page 309. :p
 
  • #665
Same day he sent her the photo of the covered up doll --8/10/18

1344 hours: Shanann asked Watts, "why did you cancel your Facebook account?" He did not respond
 
  • #666
NK searched google for chris’s And shananns fb accounts. She definitely knew more than she admitted about his current relationship status

That doesn't surprise me. I could not believe, that she did never check Shannan's or at least Chris' facebook page. But I think everyone in her position would have tried to portray themselves better to the public. What I was wondering: it had been said, that Chris wrote her, he would take care of the CERVI 319 site (If I'm not mistaken?). What did that mean? Has anyone more information about this? Was that the reason, she went later to the police?
 
  • #667
What a creep, he told NK the baby wasn't his. He had really disconnected from all of them.
thought she said she didn't know about the baby?
 
  • #668
A ton of unanswered questions have been answered by this discovery document.

I’ve spent a couple hours skimming it, and it’s more than I could have hoped for.

I’ve downloaded it so I can search for particular keywords that I am interested in. It makes it much easier.

It’s unbelievable to get all these answers to the questions we’ve been asking. It’s more heartbreaking each page. I’m reading it like a book, start to finish. Except the hand written notes, they have terrible writing!
 
  • #669
So while SW was taking care of Bella and Cece in between bouts of vomiting with Nico, CW was camping with NK and uploading nude photos of her to his secret folder on his phone. Keepin' it classy!
 
  • #670
It’s unbelievable to get all these answers to the questions we’ve been asking. It’s more heartbreaking each page. I’m reading it like a book, start to finish. Except the hand written notes, they have terrible writing!
Yeah. There’s plenty you can skip over, especially those notes.

The interview transcripts and phone histories have been the biggest eye openers for me.
 
  • #671
The interrogation ( the 5 weeks apart, he wanted to have sex time with NK and he's making out like it was a self discovery time!) Filthy liar! -

CW- It's like the best - honestly like the best way people really find out who they are is to spend time apart.
 
  • #672
CW talks a lot in the interrogation, trying to be all philosophical and convincing. ugh

and heaps of.....like...like
 
  • #673
0930 hours: in anticipation for her evening with Watts, NK spent forty five minutes searchingGoogle on topics like "how to prepare for anal sex" and "the anal sex guide." This progressed to searchesat "Pornhub" for interracialporn videos and "threesomes with double penetration."
 
  • #674
I find the timeline (around page 2,000) to be VERY interesting. It's sad that as SW is trying to call and text him, he's taking NK out dining and museum going and searching for "Spanish dancing nearby."
 
  • #675
And fits his narrative that she was leaving and never wanted to see him again. How dramatic.
that's exactly what he wanted but she was stubbornly hanging in there.
so cruel being punished for loving and forgiving somebody so flawed and undeserving. just loved him for better or worse. :-(
 
  • #676
Page 552 -
ATKINSON said she went to SHANANN’s doctor’s office and was informed SHANANN never showed up for her appointment.

AND

Page 553 -
CHRIS was able to use his garage door opener to open the garage and gain access into theresidence. CHRIS stated the keypad to the garage door did not work, which Detective BAUMHOVER later verified.

Also, from multiple references, the girls really were supposed to start school that day. CW is the only one who said "next Monday" in one of his idiot porch interviews. Yet he tells Nick Thayer he called the school and was told they hadn't checked in. And apparently really did call the school early Monday to "un-enroll them" and say they wouldn't be coming. 8:15 a.m.!!!!! Before he knew NUA was on to him of course. No wonder we were all so confused. He lies and contradicts himself so much it literally didn't make sense. He stood there and told the reporter it was the next week.

From the report:
Detective BAUMHOVER also indicated he received information that CHRIS had actually called his daughter’s school later determined to be ‘Primrose School of Erie at Vista Ridge’ in Erie, Colorado, at 8:15 A.M. on Monday, August 13, 2018. CHRIS allegedly told the employee of the school that he and his wife were selling their house and their children would not be coming there anymore. Detective BAUMHOVER said CHRIS then asked the school employee, "They’re not there, are they?"

ETA: @PommyMommy We can check off several questions on our list you so nicely compiled!
 
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  • #677
0930 hours: in anticipation for her evening with Watts, NK spent forty five minutes searchingGoogle on topics like "how to prepare for anal sex" and "the anal sex guide." This progressed to searchesat "Pornhub" for interracialporn videos and "threesomes with double penetration."
:eek::eek:
 
  • #677
Agreed, on most things. If a woman hangs with men who hurt her, her children will learn that is "normal". If we teach them this, we can teach them the opposite. We can teach them about behavior, what is acceptable and normal, and what is not. Granted, nothing impacts learning like first hand experience...but, if we give age-appropriate information to recognize early on what is truly abnormal/dangerous...and...to respect/love themselves enough to reject abnormal/dangerous, maybe progress will be made.

When my daughter first began dating, we used to talk about the process of learning about other people...one day she said (she was maybe 15-16 then, this was in the mid 90's) something along the lines of "What if every woman blew off men who were bad? Maybe those men would get tired of rejection and change?" Trust me, she did not learn that lesson by her mother's example (classic co-dependent here, but learning!!).

Teach self-respect, and reject what feels "off".
It is self respect and self confidence. I don’t know how you teach it. The person has to want to learn it, I think. You can say model it, but I’ve seen some pretty together parents with some pretty screwed up kids. I’m just reading Shanann’s texts and conversations as she’s discovering CW’s infidelity. She’s not putting the blame on herself. She’s placing it on him from what I can see. She really loved him. He did this, not her, and she saw that. That’s a healthy self esteem. Then he killed her.
 
  • #678
It's probably been mentioned but page 2108, the pic of the doll was sent by CW to SW.
 
  • #679
Delete by me
 
  • #680
It’s unbelievable to get all these answers to the questions we’ve been asking. It’s more heartbreaking each page. I’m reading it like a book, start to finish. Except the hand written notes, they have terrible writing!
They do but those notes are very interesting and informative in places. I'm used to other people's messy handwriting though.
 
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