GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #57

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  • #381
I wonder that too. My guess is she has broken company policy. Maybe using email or company phone for inappropriate reasons (eg texting CW etc). But I do wonder why? Surely they can't just fire her for being his gf.
My guess is they can fire her for any reason at all under CO law. And I also think Andarko have wanted to wash their hands of this disgusting crime since the moment the story broke. Keeping her employed keeps them in the negative news cycle longer, IMO. Hence, she had to go regardless. But that is just my guess. PR is important to these companies, I believe.
 
  • #382
I am glad the media is picking up on this. I really do not want NK to profit off this tragedy. She is no Amber Frey in my book.

Looking up Amber Frey’s book deal earnings shows a lack of reality or a disconnect of her involvement with the entire situation.

jmo
 
  • #383
Raise your hand if you want to hear the audio of that creepy laugh.
It is up there for me, just under his interrogation tapes. I am incredibly curious! It must be pretty strange to have been noted at all, much less more than once, IMO.
 
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New documents in Chris Watts murder case reveal bizarre search histories of confessed family-killer and his new girlfriend
On July 24, Shannan sent Chris the following message:

“I realized during this trip what’s missing in our relationship! It’s only one way emotions and feelings. I can’t come back like this. I need you to meet me halfway. You don’t consider others at all, nor think about others feelings.” In response, Chris reportedly told Shannan he loved her.

“l try to give you space, but while you are working and living the bachelor life l’m carrying our 3rd and fighting with our two kids daily and trying to work and make money,” Shannan replied.

As CrimeOnline previously reported, Chris had already begun an affair with co-worker by that time. The woman, Nichol Kessinger, recently gave an interview with the Denver Channel in which she said that Chris told her his divorce was final or near-final, and that she began to suspect he may have been involved in the disappearance of his wife and daughters after realizing that he had lied to her about his marriage, and also because he did not seem concerned enough that his family was missing.

According to the CBS News Denver report, investigators searched both Chris and his girlfriend’s phones for their search histories. Kessinger reportedly spent extensive time searching for the name “Shannan Watts” on her phone, in addition to searches of a sexual nature, seeking videos and information about sexual positions. Following the murders, Kessinger reportedly searched for the phrases “can cops trace text messages” and “people hate Amber Frey,” reportedly in reference to the mistress of Scott Peterson, who is now in prison for killing his pregnant wife. She also searched for information about Frey’s book deal, according to the documents obtained by the news station.
Glad she spoke her truth.
 
  • #385
Reading through pdf also showed that SW had wonderful, supportive friends (CW as well).
We teach women to stand up and not be a doormat. But who would ever imagine that you might lose your life for speaking your mind?

I think it was Frank Sr who said that his wife was Italian and could add stress
to SW. But truly, isn't the Italian way better? Say what's on your mind. Maybe explode, yell but then it's over and life goes on.

It's healthier than a slow burn, swallowing
hurt, and being a powderkeg who slaughters his family.

What was the meaning of CW searching volcanos?

Did he want to visit and hike around one w.ith NK?
Did he view SW as a volcano?
Did he view himself as a bubbling volcano?
 
  • #386
Looking up Amber Frey’s book deal earnings shows a lack of reality or a disconnect of her involvement with the entire situation.

jmo
I think it shows she is not quite what her Denver Post carefully crafted PR interview would have us believe...that she truly cared deeply about SW and the children upon their deaths. Her almost immediate move to ponder/research about her own potential windfall at their expense is chilling to me. I would have been in a broken stupor if I had been her. But that's just me. IMO

And he annihilated his entire family for that and a freedom he never got to taste and never will.
 
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I am glad the media is picking up on this. I really do not want NK to profit off this tragedy. She is no Amber Frey in my book.
I hope she wants to go crawl under a rock somewhere. Gee, maybe she can get work posing for Hustler... :D
 
  • #388
Interesting point. Really don't know many companies that fire you for having an affair with a married man unless it violated her contract to have a personal relationship with one of their clients I would think there was evidence they had been playing around when they were supposed to be working. Who writes personal e-mails that would make it evident to you were having a romantic relationship at work? Didn't anyone ever tell her that you don't **** where you eat?
From the sounds of it, Frederick and surrounding parts walike Peyton Place.
They all worked for Anadarko. They all were trying to keep up with the Joneses. The oil workers had plenty of time on their hands and traveled to remote locations.
 
  • #389
Reading through pdf also showed that SW had wonderful, supportive friends (CW as well).
We teach women to stand up and not be a doormat. But who would ever imagine that you might lose your life for speaking your mind?

I think it was Frank Sr who said that his wife was Italian and could add stress
to SW. But truly, isn't the Italian way better? Say what's on your mind. Maybe explode, yell but then it's over and life goes on.

It's healthier than a slow burn, swallowing
hurt, and being a powderkeg who slaughters his family.

What was the meaning of CW searching volcanos?

Did he want to visit and hike around one w.ith NK?
Did he view SW as a volcano?
Did he view himself as a bubbling volcano?
My guess is that like the Dead Sea Scrolls, "clean eating," mineral searches and flora photographs, he was, like a lovestruck teenager without a fully formed identity, quickly throwing himself into the interests of his paramour. IMO
 
  • #390
I've been pretty critical about of a lot of SW's behavior w/ CW and her girls. But the texts from NC to CW were just so painful. She was working hard and trying to bring in money. It's just Thrive is scam pyramid scheme. She was NEVER going to make any money for her hard efforts. 99% of MLM people do not make any money at all.

She had pregnancy nausea and was taking care of 2 very active children all the while fights were going on w/ her in-laws, and her husband wanted out.

The autopsy also showed she had a fully developed gallstone. I wonder if that was contributing to her feeling so bad.
 
  • #391
I think it shows she is not quite what her Denver Post carefully crafted PR interview would have us believe...that she truly cared deeply about SW and the children upon their deaths. Her almost immediate move to think about her own potential windfall at their expense is chilling to me. I would have been in a broken stupor if I had been her. But that's just me. IMO

Birds of a feather flock together........
 
  • #392
I think it shows she is not quite what her Denver Post carefully crafted PR interview would have us believe...that she truly cared deeply about SW and the children upon their deaths. Her almost immediate move to think about her own potential windfall at their expense is chilling to me. I would have been in a broken stupor if I had been her. But that's just me. IMO
It's not her fault that CW murdered his family. These marital triangles scenarios (minus the murders) play out every day around the world.

To me, NK has been on damage control since she saw CW's porch interview.
 
  • #393
I finished the document and I no longer have sympathy for the AP You Know Who.
D0622018CR002003 DISCOVERY PAGE 2096:

"1644 hours: Kessinger called Watts and left a voice mail. lntermixed with her creepy giggles she asked Watts to call her back [41 - TL: 6703, Audio: 249.amr]"
30 July 2018.

Quoted by me.

NK's "creepy giggles" are quoted twice in this document.

moo

It makes me think the investigators did not like her. Hence why all this info and Google search info (that probably has no baring on the case) was released.

She also lied about going to SWs home. Her answer I believed changed three times.
 
  • #394
The autopsy also showed she had a fully developed gallstone. I wonder if that was contributing to her feeling so bad.
I didn't see that. Gallstones are very painful. A friend had to have surgery. SW told CW from NC that she was spotting. Flying around is very exhausting. Stress from the Family Feud
is exponential.
 
  • #395
Raise your hand if you want to hear the audio of that creepy laugh.

Nope. I don't care to hear any audio from NK or CW. I think NK should just fade away now. We know everything we need to know. And I definitely never want to hear CW's voice again. Listening to him with his constant use of the word "like" is grating and I can read what he told investigators, which is fine with me. I think I would have to turn the sound off to watch an interrogation video of him.
 
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Reading through pdf also showed that SW had wonderful, supportive friends (CW as well).
We teach women to stand up and not be a doormat. But who would ever imagine that you might lose your life for speaking your mind?

I think it was Frank Sr who said that his wife was Italian and could add stress
to SW. But truly, isn't the Italian way better? Say what's on your mind. Maybe explode, yell but then it's over and life goes on.

It's healthier than a slow burn, swallowing
hurt, and being a powderkeg who slaughters his family.

What was the meaning of CW searching volcanos?

Did he want to visit and hike around one w.ith NK?
Did he view SW as a volcano?
Did he view himself as a bubbling volcano?
Just a super friendly contradiction to your post... don't know how to bold....sorry

But IMO.... we do not "teach women to stand up and not be a doormat" We simply do not. It's not a comfortable or acceptable thing to do unfortunately.

Thank G Shannan did anyway. I wish it could have saved her life, but at least it put him behind bars forever. jmo
 
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It makes me think the investigators did not like her. Hence why all this info and Google search info (that probably has no baring on the case) was released.

She also lied about going to SWs home. Her answer I believed changed three times.
That all is true, I'm sure.

I have to say again, I don't like that the DA released so much unredacted
when people had expressed their fear of going public.

But, whoever is the lupus chatroom psychic friend of SW that was so
accurate, she should out herself. She could help solve so many cold cases.

There was a scribbled name somewhere around her comments but I wasn't sure that was actually the name of medium/psychic. She was absolutely correct about what she felt and saw.
 
  • #400
Also interesting is in CW’s interview w/Grahm, he said the phone was just sitting on the top of the couch, but in Nick Atkinson’s statement he said he found it under pillows and even drew a diagram that’s included. I was surprised to see that’s where they foumd the apple watch too. Not sure where the stairs are in the house but the phone and watch were found near the end of the couch. I know CW was the first one upstairs. If that end of the couch was closest to the stairs it makes me wonder if he shoved them there quickly whwn he got home.

From photos in the house, it looks like the open end of the sofa (where the phone was found) was closest to the 4th bedroom. Quickest place he could stash it quick but Nick is a thousand times smarter than Chris
 

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