GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #57

[x_files]

It makes me think the investigators did not like her. Hence why all this info and Google search info (that probably has no baring on the case) was released.

She also lied about going to SWs home. Her answer I believed changed three times.

If she lied and hindered their investigation, of course not. I would NOt like being lied to either.

 

[Tortoise]

He arrived at NK's approx 5:30 pm Saturday.

Page 505 of the PDF (Page 572 of Discovery) - On Saturday they went to the Lazy Dog off 144th and I-25. They went to another Lazy Dog at 120th and Federal prior but did not eat there. CHRIS never mentioned a Rockies game that night. He got a young babysitter that night who was 17 years old and he could only stay until 10pm. He came to her home about 5:30 pm.

He left to be home by 10. He text messaged her later that night and said he had stopped on the way home to get cash to pay the babysitter.

My notes say:
Page 1886 (Discovery page 2081) - Cell phone reviews for CW, SW and NK begin.

And they had sexual relations at NK's house before and after the meal.

 

[x_files]

That all is true, I'm sure.

I have to say again, I don't like that the DA released so much unredacted
when people had expressed their fear of going public.

But, whoever is the lupus chatroom psychic friend of SW that was so
accurate, she should out herself. She could help solve so many cold cases.

There was a scribbled name somewhere around her comments but I wasn't sure that was actually the name of medium/psychic. She was absolutely correct about what she felt and saw.

I wish I could read it!

 

[SaguaroSpirit]

Yeah, but Shanann had been what she thought was a diamond in the rough and had loved him when he was a chunky dork. Shanann had polished him and given him self confidence. Wonder if NK would have been attracted to the chubby, awkward, dorky version of Chris.

Probably not.

 

[ab01]

Ok back from the vet trying to catch up.

I was thinking of that and actually seeing as he had a work truck at his disposal he could have gone out there at anytime. Very rural and if one of the ranch hands saw him/the truck they would not have given it a second thought so maybe he did go out another day. We will never know but I think if he did he would have dug it deeper, if there was only 8 inches of soil over the highest part of her buried body the wind would have uncovered her quickly.

I highly doubt CW ever returned to the oil site, as according to the discovery, LE had surveillance on him rather early on. I think if he did, LE would have been all over it....moo

 

[x_files]

I read several times in her statements to LE, that she wasn't on social media. But later, it said she had searched "Shanann Watts" and "Chris Watts."

A 30-year-old NOT on social media. I call bs.
Everyone uses the internet in some capacity.

 

[ab01]

Also I believe the reason CW kept trying to go back to work, as referenced many time in discovery doc, was to further cover his crime. I don’t believe he was ever allowed to return to the disposal site.moo

 

[SaguaroSpirit]

And they had sexual relations at NK's house before and after the meal.

I wonder if he was taking testosterone.

 

[NuttMegg]

Did anyone else notice CW said that SW made about the same $$$ as he did? During police interview. And here the MRS ppl kept saying she was a burden on the family, did less housework than poor , went on vacay a lot, on and on.

 

[NanZDrew]

And they had sexual relations at NK's house before and after the meal.

And women in competition for another woman's husband have to try a lot harder, maybe do things more often and/or do things they do not want to do. They have to work very hard. Once they get the man, that stuff will stop.

 

[NuttMegg]

I wonder if he was taking testosterone.

IIRC NK also said that once he was, er, incapacitated in bed.

 

[ab01]

Also in my own opinion, cw was rushed when disposing of the bodies. He knew that certain workers were headed out there and I think he probably saw them coming from miles away. I think he hurried over and started digging near a connection next to the tanks, and coworkers thought not much of it, according to discovery interviews.

 

[Inthedetails]

delete....

 

[The Farm]

I highly doubt CW ever returned to the oil site, as according to the discovery, LE had surveillance on him rather early on. I think if he did, LE would have been all over it....moo

No I meant before he killed his whole family as if he had dug the grave beforehand. He had been thinking about this for awhile I do believe.

 

[Tigerlily75]

I did not see an interview with the the sister. But did see in SW's mother's letter about the sister offering to send out invites for CW & SW's engagement party. When no one came but immediate family, SW asked her friends about it and they said they were never invited. His family sounded terrible. (Page 1401)

SBM

I just read this now! Omg. They are the worst!! I thought my ex’s family was bad. They are next level. I can’t believe how miserable these people are.

 

[SaguaroSpirit]

SBM

I just read this now! Omg. They are the worst!! I thought my ex’s family was bad. They are next level. I can’t believe how miserable these people are.

I'm glad they've been publicly exposed.

 

[ab01]

No I meant before he killed his whole family as if he had dug the grave beforehand. He had been thinking about this for awhile I do believe.

That’s something we will never know, I doubt it as I think he was never there alone before that day. Jmo

 

[katydid23]

Yes, I can see that scenario....it was all unfolding for him to take the opportunity.

It had been on his mind, imo, and things started to fall into place (well, not really, but in his mind).

jmo

I still think that his hand was probably forced, that night, because if he told her he had a new girlfriend , SW probably said 'ENOUGH, Get Out!' Either you leave or I will take the girls and leave in the morning.

HE COULDN'T LET THAT HAPPEN.

He would not be able to carry out his plan, of calling them in as 'missing', if she left with the kids or kicked him out. She would go ahead and have the 3rd baby, file for divorce, ask for primary custody and want child support for 3 kids.

So he really had no options at that point but to go for it that night. JMO

 

[Tigerlily75]

I'm glad they've been publicly exposed.

Me too. Nowhere to hide, it’s all there.

 

[The Farm]

That’s something we will never know, I doubt it as I think he was never there alone before that day. Jmo

As I said he could have gone out there ALONE at anytime and no one could have ever known. It is an extremely rural area on a private ranch. The ranch hands if they would have even seen the truck would not have given it a second thought.
I have worked with transportation GPS and some are better than others so not sure if the company could have gone back and checked to see where his truck was or had been before the murders. Some store the info and some do not.
Personally I myself think he did it all that morning and raced the clock to get it done. But there is a possibility he did go out earlier to start digging. We do not know.