GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #59

[MsBetsy]

We don't know the context, but given NK said she only told one person in her life (Charlotte) I suspect it was in relation to her telling Charlotte that Chris was "separated" with children. Her comment was that "She's supportive, but it came up, because something similar happened when she was a kid" (paraphrasing), then followed by the "I don't care, I am going to keep seeing you" and then followed up with "are we bad people?". Totally my opinion, but that's what I am guessing - keen to hear theories of what others think that exchange might be about.

There is simply no evidence that I saw proving NK told CW to work on his marriage. It's just her word. Again please do correct me if I am wrong as it would change my opinion!

I really don't know but I would think she is aware that LE may be able to retrieve all the messages. I can definitely see someone who is insecure telling him that just to see what he says or does. She probably didn't trust him. I don't think it means she is involved. At this point I doubt they are going to find anything implicating her in the murder. If they do, there will be a whole lot more to talk about! My guess is that they would have had some evidence by now. Imo

 

[Gardener1850]

I understand. I felt exactly the same way when people were here saying horrible things about Shanann. She lost her life. Her babies lost their lives. Her family will continue to suffer a lifetime of grief and not one of them did a damn thing to deserve it. If NK is embarrassed, perhaps she can eventually see the bright side. She's alive. She can move, change her name, her profession or whatever she needs to do. She can recover. MOO

Agree completely Pommy, well said.

PS: Did you see that they found a body in the search for Hania? It's in the area they were looking for video footage

 

[Allabouttrial]

I haven't seen anything specifically saying that CW chose the baby's name. It's hard for me to imagine that, given that he didn't want the baby. JMO, but it seems more likely to me that Shanann chose it based on close friends of hers named some version of Nicole, or just because she liked it (I assume Lee was because it's also CW's middle name, jmo of course).

Not quite sure was this a reply to me? As I posted with regards to this a couple of posts up. Just checking.

 

[NanZDrew]

I'm sure this has been noted already but I've only just released that NK's full name is 'Kessinger, Nichol Lee'. Babies name 'Niko Lee Watts'

I think this is coincidence...but a bizarre coincidence. Christopher's name is Christopher Lee, so I would think Niko got the Lee name in honor of Christopher who killed his namesake. It is bizarre that both Nichol and Chris both have the middle name of Lee.

 

[kittycat3]

NK was sending the nude photos to insure the opposite would happen. If she really wanted him to work things out,
she would have completely ended the relationship. Instead she manipulated him into thinking he needed to work thing out with his wife. Just like his parents manipulated him.

Case in point, this seems to place the blame for murder entirely on the shoulders of the other woman!!!! SMH. WOW

 

[Allabouttrial]

I think this is coincidence...but a bizarre coincidence. Christopher's name is Christopher Lee, so I would think Niko got the Lee name in honor of Christopher who killed his namesake. It is bizarre that both Nichol and Chris both have the middle name of Lee.

It feels like a HUGE coincidence and check this out. It's right after the night when they had the best talk yet.

 

[NanZDrew]

Wow. When CW told her SW doesn't allow him to hang pictures up on the wall.

I was like is NK really believing this guy.

The kids weren't even in 1st grade and he was portraying problems of a 55 year old with 5 adult daughters all getting married next week and they expect for him to pay for the 5 weddings.

He probably had horrible taste in artwork.

 

[ZsaZsa]

& don’t forget that darn mistress! I would guess we’ve discussed NK just as much as CW here....misogyny is alive and well on this board fer shure!

I dispute that. Had he been having a torrid homosexual affair I doubt anyone here would make any different comments. It's the fact that the AP lied to LE when SW and two innocent little kids were missing. It's a bit too late then to worry about your reputation. Tell them every damn thing he ever said to you or did with you FGS if it will help.

 

[Bluebythec]

I believe the hair product purchase attempt on Shan'ann's computer in the middle of the night may well have been CW. Did they ever say specifically what product it was?

Many people buy things they use often on autoship so maybe no one actually ordered it at that time, that's just when the recurring charge happened.

 

[Allabouttrial]

I dispute that. Had he been having a torrid homosexual affair I doubt anyone here would make any different comments. It's the fact that the AP lied to LE when SW and two innocent little kids were missing. It's a bit too late then to worry about your reputation. Tell them every damn thing he ever said to you or did with you FGS if it will help.

But knowing what transpired now between them. Do you really think that would have helped to locate them?

 

[tmar]

I NEEEEEED them to release whatever else is coming. I feel like it’s going to answer a lot of the questions that still plague us re: NK, etc.

We better get ready, and have loads of sleep and rest now, because when this next stack arrives, we'll be drowning in info and evidence, I hope.
Perhaps we'll have more answers to our many questions.

 

[Allabouttrial]

Many people buy things they use often on autoship so maybe no one actually ordered it at that time, that's just when the recurring charge happened.

I saw that said somewhere else and it hadn't occurred. So auto-ship could be entirely possible.

 

[Jessthinkin]

I mean, Anadarko outed the relationship on Tuesday or Wednesday right? In response to law enforcements inquiry searching for motive.....she didn’t lawyer up, did she? She talked to them willingly and gave them her phone. She lost her job and is now (In)famous.

I think anyone who knowingly enters into an affair has low self esteem and at some level believes all they are worthy of is just that, being the “other” person.

Some statistics say more people in marriages have affairs than those that are faithful.

And I know without a doubt Watts told her lie after lie.

She did lawyer up... with a lawyer specializing in ‘internet/texting’ type issues... can’t remember his name but I googled it when I saw it in the document dump and he was a Denver lawyer and that was his specialty (although it had a better-sounding name than ‘internet/texting’...)

 

[tmar]

Her real problem might be in securing a decent job. Not many in HR would be delighted about extending an offer to someone who has a documented history of having an affair with a married co-worker, IMO.

But NK will not disclose this!!!
MOO.

 

[ilovewings]

Chris Watts’ wife called his parents 'evil and stupid' one week before her murder | Daily Mail Online

I am posting this article which i found on Daily Mail because i find it repulsive as it makes Shannan sound like a nasty woman and will give those who are looking for reasons her husband murdered his family something to talk about. I just wonder why any paper would publish a piece of trash like this after the murderer has been convicted and sentenced to life in prison.

 

[molly1255]

& don’t forget that darn mistress! I would guess we’ve discussed NK just as much as CW here....misogyny is alive and well on this board fer shure!

JMO, the whole narrative that was developed in blaming SW for the murders of Bella and Celeste was extremely misogynistic.

I'm not seeing misogyny when one woman has an affair with another woman's husband. I think that is entirely something else, JMO.

 

[kittycat3]

We don’t know, but it does clearly state, “The affair was only discovered after Kessinger contacted your affiant stating she had information regarding this investigation.”

So how about this, Anadarko IT guy discovers evidence of possible relationship but the affair is only be positively confirmed when NK comes forward. So they had a hunch but couldn’t completely confirm until one or both parties agreed / came forward.

 

[bonjoviblonde]

Case in point, this seems to place the blame for murder entirely on the shoulders of the other woman!!!! SMH. WOW

You must not have been reading here long. We have all been on CW's case for weeks. No one blames anyone but him, including NK. Unless I've missed it, I haven't seen anyone blame her for the murders or say she's involved. The only blame on her is having an affair with a married man, which IMO is a pretty crappy thing to do and yes I will judge her for that. She's a part of this case so of course, she is going to be discussed.

 

[NanZDrew]

Frankly, I am MUCH more concerned about SW's family right now and what they are going through.

Yes, Thanksgiving will always be a sad time for them because they will always be reminded that sentencing was pre-Thanksgiving (although that was a good thing). Christmas is near and there will be no children in that family, and the littles really make Christmas fun.

 

[tmar]

Awww tmar, I'm a bit wacky, just not to that extent!

I meant support Aussies here, not the idiots sending letters.