GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #60

[dixiegirl1035]

Christopher Watts' girlfriend speaks to police in recorded interview released by Weld County DA

What shocks me and is continuing from the very beginning of her interview, is she never uses Shanann's name, and she refers to her as Chris's significant other. She doesn't say his wife!

I'm only 5 minutes in....

 

[esayer]

Oh! He asks her if she ever gave him relationship books! Fishing for info on the book in the garbage at about 50:30

 

[Tuliptiptoe]

What shocks me and is continuing from the very beginning of her interview, is she never uses Shanann's name, and she refers to her as Chris's significant other. She doesn't say his wife!

That is disturbing.
Moo

 

[x_files]

What shocks me and is continuing from the very beginning of her interview, is she never uses Shanann's name, and she refers to her as Chris's significant other. She doesn't say his wife!

It's called distancing language.
I wish an expert would dissect this interview, it's something else.

 

[Best of What's Around]

Coerced isn’t the right word, how about outsmarted into confessing, backed into a corner with his lies, and they couldn’t have done it without NK.

How is it that they could not have done it without NK? They already knew of the affair from Andarko before she came forward.

 

[zea mays]

If you pause and make the video full screen, you can see his hand swinging at his sides. He looks to be wearing some type of light colored glove, or his hands are reflecting the light. He isn't carrying anything. I'm going to try to see if I can get a clear-ish screen shot and circle where I see his hands.

Okay - the first picture has a purple arrow pointing at his hand. The second picture has that area blown up. If you watch the video and watch the white spot (glove/hand) you can see it swinging as he walks. You can also see another white spot on the other side (glove/hand) as he walks. The picture isn't super clear but once you see these spots and watch the video, it seems pretty clear to me that he isn't carrying anything.

 

[askedandanswered]

If you pause and make the video full screen, you can see his hand swinging at his sides. He looks to be wearing some type of light colored glove, or his hands are reflecting the light. He isn't carrying anything. I'm going to try to see if I can get a clear-ish screen shot and circle where I see his hands.

Yeah, I see both hands swinging by his side.

 

[The Farm]

To me it looks like his knees are buckling from carrying her. There is no tree in what I'm looking at

Maybe you need a nap,,,,I see nothing at all. #1 shows him walking down the driveway to get his truck, his arms are swinging and his knees are nit buckling, I believe he is in his stocking feet and hard to see if it is a glove on his hand. I froze it there but still hard to see but possible.

 

[zea mays]

Maybe he’s wearing the (light blue?) nitrile gloves that were immediately marked and removed by LE as evidence. I believe this happened the day of their disappearance.

Most likely.

 

[MsBetsy]

Just got to the part where she said she never imagined he had murdered his wife, I guess she did know.

I think pretty much everyone knew at that point. I think she may have even suspected he murdered the kids at that point too. Imo

 

[Check21]

Halfway through the NK interview and a couple of things stick out.
Im sorry but this timeline does NOT make sense! They hung out for the first time the beginning of July but we all saw the birthday card he gave her. She kept saying "you're asking me things that happened so long ago". Umm 2 months is so long ago?

Additionally she said she didn't enjoy being at his house because she wanted to respect her (Shananns) space. What??!!

 

[Tuliptiptoe]

How is it that they could not have done it without NK? They already knew of the affair from Andarko before she came forward.

Of course they could have done it without NK. They knew what had happened the second they arrived at the house.

That's just ridiculous.

Now imagine if NK hadnt hampered the investigation and had been fully forthcoming...

Moo

 

[zea mays]

I’m not. I’m just a very sensitive person who tries to be fair as best I can. I’m still listening to her interview, and I believe everything she says. I think she’s trying her best to help. I felt horrible for her when she started crying about Shanann, Bella, and CeCe. I don’t hear a vocal fry voice and I don’t want to make fun of her. The whole situation is awful for everyone. I feel like I’m about to get run off this board, and I better not post much more.

I'm certainly not going to run you off the board. It's totally fine to feel what you're feeling for her. She, objectively, does have vocal fry, though! Lots of people do and I haven't really seen anyone here making fun of her. My DH says, "you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes". For all her talk of wanting to avoid baggage, she hopped right into a very complex situation and found herself at the center of a big, giant mess. I think all of her answers are intended to paint herself in the most flattering light possible and that makes her sound evasive, to me. MOO, of course!

 

[Gardenista]

Okay - the first picture has a purple arrow pointing at his hand. The second picture has that area blown up. If you watch the video and watch the white spot (glove/hand) you can see it swinging as he walks. You can also see another white spot on the other side (glove/hand) as he walks. The picture isn't super clear but once you see these spots and watch the video, it seems pretty clear to me that he isn't carrying anything.

That looks like his butt to me

 

[nwmouse]

Actually, I doubt the veracity of Sandra’s letter, as shown in Discovery pages 1400 - 1409.



But I’m posting this because I find it incredibly disturbing that Cindy Watts is being called “evil” and having a “dark heart” by posters, when clearly are many versions of what transpired.

Nothing will be learned from this tragedy if people choose to believe everything is black and white.

I believe there are a lot of answers about “why could this happen” in the Watts’ financial and medical records, which we are not privy to. Perhaps eventually they will come out, and there might be some shades of grey which will help people understand ways to prevent another tragedy like this from occurring.

Snipped by me.
BBM.

I'm quite confused that you're incredibly disturbed by the general consensus here that Cindy Watts is an evil, nasty piece of work. On the other hand, Sandra has been honest and transparent from the start. I would believe SW's mama Sandy over Cindy Watts any day.

She has zero compassion and made Shanann's life a misery.
She clearly disliked baby CeCe because CeCe was like Shanann and Bella was quieter like Chris.

There is nothing "disturbing" about the majority here being disgusted at the Watt's family's tone-deaf, appalling reaction to their murderous son's actions.

What is disturbing is Cindy Watt's reaction to the shocking murder of her daughter-in-law, unborn grandson (who she never even bothered to reference) and two little toddlers. That I find evil, disturbing and quite sickening.

MOO

 

[Best of What's Around]

Still listening...Wow, she is so bossy with the investigator re Jim. Just wow. Is it possible that they put up with this behavior because they wanted to keep her an enthusiastic witness for the prosecution? Because I cannot fathom any reason for the kid gloves and putting up with this nonsense otherwise. This is a multiple murder investigation! Think of how serious a cop is when you are stopped for a traffic infraction. I am dumbfounded at both her chutzpa and the kid gloves approach to her throughout.

CW certainly was NOT sick and tired of his wife's allegedly overbearing ways...he was just looking to replace her with someone more overbearing apparently...unless she played a role with him. MOO.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I can understand now why LE didn’t think much of her.

 

[Best of What's Around]

Does everyone in CO say like every 5 seconds?

Lived there. Like NO.

 

[zea mays]

That looks like his butt to me

It's not. It's his hand next to his hip as he's walking. Start the video and watch that spot. You can see that hand and then the other hand when he takes a step. I was just pointing where to look because you can't scrub less than 1s on the twitter video.

 

[sun16]

Okay - the first picture has a purple arrow pointing at his hand. The second picture has that area blown up. If you watch the video and watch the white spot (glove/hand) you can see it swinging as he walks. You can also see another white spot on the other side (glove/hand) as he walks. The picture isn't super clear but once you see these spots and watch the video, it seems pretty clear to me that he isn't carrying anything.

Right. He’s walking to get the truck. He’s not going to carry bodies down the driveway and into the street.