GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #60

[Gardenista]

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[MassGuy]

Definitely the first videos I want to see!

JUST IN: The Weld County DA's office has just released hundreds of hours of videos related to the #ChrisWatts case. It includes Watts' interview with investigators and their interview with his mistress Nicole Kessinger. We are downloading it now. Stay tuned. @DenverChannel

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[Mellowmelly]

She couldn’t prove it. She was caught between a rock and a hard place.

On one hand, she wanted to know what the hell was going on. On the other, she didn’t want to push him away any further.

She wanted to save their marriage, and really pushing him on the affair would only make things worse at that point.

She must’ve felt like she was going crazy, knowing something wasn’t right but not being able to prove it. Gas lighting springs to mind.

 

[Thinker Belle]

Link to new data released by Weld County


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[Jennifer17]

I didn’t see any “evil” in Cindy’s interview. I stand by my post. I question Sandra’s relating of events.

What knowledge do you have that we don't for you to question Sandy's statements?

 

[UKslueth2018]

Doesn't seem to download for me again..!

 

[AbbyG]

LOL! The Picture of Dorian Gray in reverse?

I do wonder why he looks fine is all the mug shots etc. Like, just another day in orange. IS he a robot? A killing machine. It's so sad. I'm depressed.Need to log off and not view the videos. Also -- I really dislike NK for what happened and how she handled things, but she wasn't in on murder, and I don't feel good that we can be privy to her sexual predilections and inner thoughts via Google and so on. Do we really need to see the video interview of her? Why is that our business? How can innocent people be expected to keep coming forward when they will be so invasively exposed?

 

[Mellowmelly]

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Thanks for sharing! How do you watch these ? They don’t seem to be loading. Tia

 

[RachB65]

I may be giving them way too much benefit of the doubt but I just don't feel safe concluding they /wanted/ or expected to hurt Cece with the peanuts. I see it as a more older generation stubbornly dismissing all the “newfangled allergies”. I'm willing to admit Cindy may have been way more sinister about it but honestly when I read the history between them and Shanann I can see how compared to their seemingly quiet and mellow son (and yes he had something going on under the surface I'm not saying he was just a quiet mellow guy) Shanann could have seemed a bit intense and particular.


I've wondered what the cross contamination at the engagement party actually entailed. I honestly can see how from their viewpoint she was blowing up on them and calling them evil when they weren't intending malice (though maybe they were and I'm way off?).


I do agree though, damn, they barely got to see their grandkids even if they absolutely think it's foolish and she was out there with her food demands just do what you can to make peace. It's not how I would have done things. I just think it's tragic for /everyone/ and don't feel good about ripping apart one set of grieving grandparents. Though I may very well be giving them too much credit because the whole case is mind boggling to me.

Again, they're not much older than me and I've been well aware of these "new-fangled" allergies for many years. I work in the food industry and for over 20 yrs people have been vocal and careful when it comes to their children and allergies. Especially peanuts. Many restaurants do not even USE peanut oil and the like because of it.
What about the razor blades lying around? What piss poor excuse or justification do they have for that??

 

[gitana1]

If CeCe ingested peanuts and died would Cindy be charged for negligence? Is it possible she hoped she'd get sick? or even die? How deep does her hatred go for SW?

I think she loved those kids in the way that she was capable of and didn't want them to get hurt or die. But her hatred for Shanann disabled her ability to be rational and safe.

It's evil in the sense that her hatred and desire to punish was so intense it over rode her natural instinct to protect her grandchildren. IMO.

Truly dysfunctional.

 

[Gardenista]

I've got something that's 124 MB downloading, but now I'm not sure which one I clicked on

 

[katie565]

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I don’t know if I’m going to be able to download these. Starting w/FBI Coder Watts which is 520 MB

Can they be downloaded to another site for view?

ETA: Getting “Service Unavailable. Try again later”

 

[The Farm]

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Not opening for me either.

 

[Mellowmelly]

I've got something that's 124 MB downloading, but now I'm not sure which one I clicked on

Do you have to download them to see them ?

 

[Gardenista]

Do you have to download them to see them ?

Right now yes, but I'm sure they'll be put someplace on the net. Hopefully youtube

 

[Mellowmelly]

The site is lagging now, I presume there’s hundreds of people trying to view the files.

 

[becrietz]

IMO CW is someone that bases his entire identity around what others think of him. He wants everyone to think that he is a good guy. Multiple times he would say to SW friends that he didn't want them to think he was a bad guy. I think he got caught up in the new exciting relationship with NK and became obsessed. It was easy for him to dissociate SW and the kids from his life with NK because they were not there. However once they returned he had to start accepting what he was doing to SW and his family by having his affair. I think he couldn't handle SW thinking badly of him. That's why he couldn't tell her the truth about the affair. IMO once it became obvious that SW would find out and he would be exposed as a "bad guy" he decided he had to get rid of his wife and kids. They were the people closest to him that could expose who he really was. That he wasn't the perfect husband and father. He wasn't a "good guy." IMO he didn't hate them, he couldn't face being exposed for what and who he really was in their eyes. They only way for his façade to continue was for them to disappear.

 

[Gardenista]

Not opening for me either.

I've got it open in 3 browsers. Site is getting hit hard

 

[gitana1]

I'm sure this has been asked and answered so I apologize in advance but I haven't been able to find it.

--- Are there two different discovery files? I've only seen the 1 that's 1960 pages and when certain pages are referenced it's not matching up so I thought there's another file possibly?

--- I was trying to find out what the purpose of Shanann's parents filing the wrongful death lawsuit. I 100% stand behind them in anything they do because I think they are such stand up people (just like the daughter they raised) I just don't understand it. Maybe @gitana1 or someone else can explain the legal reasons for it.

Making sure if he has any estate left he won't get it and will have no control over it. Perhaps making sure any monies deposited for him are garnished. Further exposing and unmasking him as that - as someone else described - is probably like death to him.

 

[gitana1]

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