GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #60

[Tortoise]

When they returned from NC?

She was only back for a day I think?

 

[gitana1]

Yes its un nerving how calm he was. But i did not see him loading up the bodies. Did they omit that from the video? Or did i just miss that?

We won't see that because it was in the garage. he backed in. Isn't it eerie how calm he was?

 

[katie565]

She was only back for a day I think?

Wed and Thursday

 

[gitana1]

Okay. I still love you and think you are amazing!

Back at ya'.

 

[Tuliptiptoe]

She thought she had convinced him to try to fix it with SW while they were in NC.

OK, this is kind of big, I think.

She said she could talk to him pretty much any time she wanted except when the kids were around. She was frustrated sometimes after work when he had to deal with the kids, but once they went to bed she could talk to him freely. He was in the basement and SW was upstairs.

My thoughts: If their relationship didn't start until SW went to NC, then what time period was she talking about that SW would have been in the house?

Wow. That's a big problem being frustrated with a father for taking care of his kids. How dare he? If you get involved with a parent that kind of comes with the territory and a 30+ year old should be understanding of that

I def think relationship was longer than claimed.

Moo

 

[Seattle1]

Dillon Thomas‏Verified account @DillonMThomas 39m39 minutes ago
NEWLY RELEASED VIDEO: Video shows murderer Chris Watts calmly walking to his truck, backing it in his garage, and re-entering the home...after Shanann, Bella, and Celeste were killed. (1/3)

MORE VIDEO: Later, as the sun rises, Watts is seen loading items in to his truck...including what appears to be a gasoline can. (2/3)

@DillonMThomas
MORE VIDEO: Neighbor security camera then shows Watts driving out of his garage, stopping, and then leaving the neighborhood...likely with his deceased wife, and daughters, in the bed of his truck. Police used the GPS in his truck to track down where he took their bodies (3/3)
1:05 PM - 29 Nov 2018 from Denver, CO

Videos at link (I still can't download the sharefile)...

 

[gitana1]

I remember I think it was at the press conference them saying that Shanann's dad had seen the video of him loading three bodies into the truck.

Technically it is video of him loading the bodies. We just can't see him physically doing it.

 

[MsBetsy]

She started discussing with her dad Wed morning. BTW, the interview I'm listening to was on Thurs 8/16.

Says she has "no FB, no IG, no Twitter"

I thought when I was reading that interview it said something like as of 2018. Which could mean she had it up until a month or days ago. But I'm not sure if I actually saw that, since no-one else has mentioned it. Imo

 

[gitana1]

She thought she had convinced him to try to fix it with SW while they were in NC.

OK, this is kind of big, I think.

She said she could talk to him pretty much any time she wanted except when the kids were around. She was frustrated sometimes after work when he had to deal with the kids, but once they went to bed she could talk to him freely. He was in the basement and SW was upstairs.

My thoughts: If their relationship didn't start until SW went to NC, then what time period was she talking about that SW would have been in the house?

Maybe the day or two after she returned? before Arizona?

 

[Tuliptiptoe]

We won't see that because it was in the garage. he backed in. Isn't it eerie how calm he was?

Just another day for CW

 

[stereopticons]

@stereopticons would know. I heard that DBT therapy could work with some of these people. I think it's a sort of mindfulness training with Buddhist roots.

DBT is primarily used for borderline personality disorder, and largely focuses on emotion regulation. Most PDs have no known effective treatment. I don’t know if Cindy has a disorder, but she might benefit from some kind of cognitive-behavioral therapy. CBT mostly focuses on changing thoughts to change behavior. If she could think differently about her son or SW, it could change her behavior.

 

[Nessa131]

We won't see that because it was in the garage. he backed in. Isn't it eerie how calm he was?

Ok thanks for the clarification! For some reason i was thinking that the suv was in the way so he would have had to brought them outside to out them in the back seat. If that was the case- he did know about the camera the neighbor had so he could have crouched and loaded them on the other side.

 

[Gardenista]

LE asked her (in a roundabout way) if she was the one who sent the relationship book. They must not have known SW sent him the book at the time.

NKs parents divorced when she and her sister were about the same age as SWs kids.

CW the liar told her he was trying to save the marriage and SW did not want to.

 

[Mo Thuairim]

I thought when I was reading that interview it said something like as of 2018. Which could mean she had it up until a month or days ago. But I'm not sure if I actually saw that, since no-one else has mentioned it. Imo

Yup.
PDF p576 (discovery page 649)

I asked NICHOL about her social media use and she said she has not used social media since approximately 2018.

 

[WhatDidYouDo]

I think that popped in to her head because he works with oil every day. It's a logical jump in that respect.

Does anyone remember the way SW mom described what she thought cw had done, re oil? I mean that first day, the 13th, she said she was afraid cw had killed them and what, covered them with oil? I cant remember the exact way she described it, just that i thought it was a weird thing for her to think of. ( not so strange the way it turned out, but why would she have visualized that?) .Yeah i know everyone is busy.....

 

[Love Never Fails]

Okay, to be fair, here are all the topics NK searched. Let me know if I missed anything.

9/1/2017 - searched the internet for the name "Shanann Watts"

7/24/2018 - searched Google for "Man I'm having an affair with says he will leave his wife"

8/4/2018 – for over two hours, searched Google for "wedding dresses"

8/4/2018 - Google search for Chris and Shanann's Facebook accounts

8/8/2018 - Googled topics related to "marrying your mistress

8/11/2018 - in anticipation for her evening with Watts, Kessinger spent forty five minutes searching Google on topics like "how to prepare for anal sex" and "the anal sex guide." This progressed to searches at "Pornhub" for interracial videos and "threesomes with double penetration."

8/11/2018 - having concluded her evening tryst with Watts, Kessinger searched the internet on topics like "Chris Watts" - "Shanann Watts" - "Ronnie Watts" and "2825 Saratoga Trail"

8/14/2018 - searched Google for Shanann Watts

8/14/2018 - spent nearly four hours searching Google and the internet for Watts, news outlets and news accounts of Shanann's disappearance

8/14/2018 – searched Google on topics like "can cops trace text messages" - "How long do phone companies keep text messages" - "Difference between text message content and text message detail"

8/14/2018 - searched the internet for news accounts of this incident and Shanann's name (these searches were conducted frequently by Kessinger throughout the next several days. She deleted every one afterwards)

8/19/2018 - searched the internet on topics related to Amber Frey {the mistress of Scott Peterson; he murdered his wife and unborn child}. Her searches included Frey's book deal, her net worth and "did people hate Amber Frey"

You are awesome. NK is NOT. Thanks for this.

 

[Thinker Belle]

She thought she had convinced him to try to fix it with SW while they were in NC.

OK, this is kind of big, I think.

She said she could talk to him pretty much any time she wanted except when the kids were around. She was frustrated sometimes after work when he had to deal with the kids, but once they went to bed she could talk to him freely. He was in the basement and SW was upstairs.

My thoughts: If their relationship didn't start until SW went to NC, then what time period was she talking about that SW would have been in the house?

The nerve of her! You don’t want to deal with kids - then don’t sleep with married men who have kids. Simple as that. The world does not revolve around you.

 

[PommyMommy]

Videos:

Video Shows Chris Watts Loading Truck After Killing Pregnant Wife, Daughters
The video, recorded by a neighbor’s security camera, shows Chris Watts waking to his truck, which at times was parked in the driveway near the garage and other times was parked on the street. Shortly after, he backs his truck up his driveway, and parks a portion of the bed of the truck in his garage.

As the sun slowly rises, Watts can be seen walking around his truck. Wearing jeans, and a black top, Watts is seen calmly carrying items to his truck, including a red gasoline can. He placed the can in the back of his truck.

Watts is later shown getting in to his truck, and pulling it forward, where view is obstructed by a tree. Watts sits in his truck for a moment, before driving north, away from his home.

 

[Tortoise]

Technically it is video of him loading the bodies. We just can't see him physically doing it.

The DA said Frank Rzucek watched him load the bodies, and I've just been reminded that FR said that he watched him go back three times to the truck with their bodies like trash, in his victim impact statement.

 

[Gardenista]

Her "only screw-up" was being in a relationship with him while he was still with SW