GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #66

[PommyMommy]

Yes, I believe he killed them all. I just found it curious that LE didn't include the girls with SW in the line of questioning. Wondered what other posters thought.

They needed to keep him talking. Pushing too many buttons at once could have caused him to clam up. MOO

 

[Tortoise]

Perhaps the enormity and reality of what CW had done hadn't truly sunk in at that point yet?
Didn't she go to LE with her info. very shortly after the fact?

Two days later.

 

[Jessthinkin]

Apologies if this has been discussed before. Something that I have been thinking a lot about... During the polygraph interview why did LE only question CW about the disappearance of SW and if he was responsible? Or if he was responsible for harming all of them & not just SW? I know hindsight is 20/20, but it appears they strongly suspected he was responsible for all of it. It's just bothered me why they didn't out right ask him if he harmed the girls as well.

Also I wanted to say, I was very impressed with the 20/20 program. It was very well put together. Sweet baby CeCe looked so much like Sandi.

Some of the pictures weren’t CeCe, though... that bothered me...

 

[kizzykat]

Yes, I believe he killed them all. I just found it curious that LE didn't include the girls with SW in the line of questioning. Wondered what other posters thought.

I believe it's the interview with CW and the LE officer in the blue dress shirt where that officer says his theory is CW killed the children first, then SW. CW's response was he's not a monster, he didn't hurt his kids. (Not a direct quote, going from memory, he sort of stammered during his response.) I don't recall a direct question about the children, just this officer presenting his theory to CW, but then I haven't watched all of the interviews.

 

[Karinna]

Other LE posters said it was a technique, a step by step process to get him to confess to all the murders. They felt he had killed all 3 but knew Shanann had not left that house by her own volition based on how the house was locked from the inside, her purse, phone, meds all still there. They knew he would fail the questions about her, they could use that to put pressure on him, open the dialogue about the girls. I see it as a judgement call as how to go step by step to get him to tell the truth about all 3.

And perhaps there was also forensic DNA evidence as well that would of convicted him of all the murders.

 

[Doghairrules]

Chilling video with a stone cold killer who 100% arrogantly believes his story is being bought.
Props to Special Agent Coder.

T 143 - FBI Coder-Watts Interview - Google Drive
T-143-FBI Coder-Watts Interview Part 3 Interview w C Watts by FBI SA Coder Part 3. avi

Chris Watts files: 08 14 18 Interview with Chris Watts by FBI SA Coder Part 3

Wow, the SA is masterful.

 

[Tortoise]

Apologies if this has been discussed before. Something that I have been thinking a lot about... During the polygraph interview why did LE only question CW about the disappearance of SW and if he was responsible? Or if he was responsible for harming all of them & not just SW? I know hindsight is 20/20, but it appears they strongly suspected he was responsible for all of it. It's just bothered me why they didn't out right ask him if he harmed the girls as well.

Also I wanted to say, I was very impressed with the 20/20 program. It was very well put together. Sweet baby CeCe looked so much like Sandi.

She (Tammy) did say that when he answered questions about Shanann it would be deemed to also refer to the girls because Shanann wouldn't be anywhere without the girls given their ages.

 

[Gardener1850]

Perhaps the enormity and reality of what CW had done hadn't truly sunk in at that point yet?
Didn't she go to LE with her info. very shortly after the fact?

Even if she was doubting in her mind whether CW really murdered his wife and children, she knew SW, Bella and CeCe were dead and it was a murder investigation. She knew this from her very first interview. So why lie to the police?

ETA: To be clear I don't suspect NK of having any involvement in the murders but her lies make her look bad. The lies seem to be pointless to me in the face of a murder investigation. JMO.

 

[Marli61]

Some of the pictures weren’t CeCe, though... that bothered me...

I noticed that too, but there was a pic of Sandi & CeCe with their faces together. That one was definitely CeCe.

 

[Jessthinkin]

Two days later.

CW’s porch interviews were 8/14, right? I’m pretty sure NK said in her LE interview that when she saw the porch interviews on tv (and IMO she was following all of this in real time) she saw (paraphrasing) a different CW with no soul. But she didn’t approach LE until midday 8/15, after talking to her father... IMO

 

[Tigerlily75]

Chilling video with a stone cold killer who 100% arrogantly believes his story is being bought.
Props to Special Agent Coder.

T 143 - FBI Coder-Watts Interview - Google Drive
T-143-FBI Coder-Watts Interview Part 3 Interview w C Watts by FBI SA Coder Part 3. avi

Chris Watts files: 08 14 18 Interview with Chris Watts by FBI SA Coder Part 3

It blows my mind. He actually believes he can fool the FBI.

 

[Karinna]

Two days later.

Right. I thought she went in the next day? But doesn't matter it was fairly promptly. I think her mind would of been in a tailspin at that time. She might have been pushing for CW to get out of his marriage asap, but i doubt very much she would of expected the murder of his family. Doesn't mean i like her, but i doubt anyone in their wildest dreams would of expected such a horrific outcome.

 

[Jessthinkin]

I noticed that too, but there was a pic of Sandi & CeCe with their faces together. That one was definitely CeCe.

Yes, some were Cece...

 

[riolove77]

So this is a bit OT...I am a muralist/artist and I really want to do a painting of the 4 angels, and now that I think about it? I want to do a mural of them in CO. I paint murals all over the US! Maybe that can be my goal next summer. They need to be memorialized! I'll start doing some sketches and keep you updated. Won't be till next week, I have a mural deadline next Friday!

You should do something on canvas for the Rzuceks!

 

[Karinna]

Even if she was doubting in her mind whether CW really murdered his wife and children, she knew SW, Bella and CeCe were dead and it was a murder investigation. She knew this from her very first interview. So why lie to the police?

Oh undoubtedly she knew. But seeing she had some full on involvement with CW, her mind was probably trying to sort through all the information and how it would all go down for her too. So i think she was definitely in CYA mode and trying not to incriminate herself in any way.

 

[nanwv]

"Some of the pictures weren’t CeCe, though... that bothered me..." Jessthinkin

NUA said during her interview, that one of the pictures was of her daughter, and she was very upset. Contacted the press and demanded they stop using and remove it.

 

[compass]

It is not an expression that we use but, I think it means pick your battles. Don't sweat over the small stuff.

Yes, or my hubby’s favorite, “let them die ignorant”

 

[Tigerlily75]

Apologies if this has been discussed before. Something that I have been thinking a lot about... During the polygraph interview why did LE only question CW about the disappearance of SW and if he was responsible? Or if he was responsible for harming all of them & not just SW? I know hindsight is 20/20, but it appears they strongly suspected he was responsible for all of it. It's just bothered me why they didn't out right ask him if he harmed the girls as well.

Also I wanted to say, I was very impressed with the 20/20 program. It was very well put together. Sweet baby CeCe looked so much like Sandi.

The agent said they are taking the assumption that wherever Shan’ann is, the girls are too. So they only needed to ask about Shan’ann. At that point the focus was on trying to find them.

 

[Tortoise]

CW’s porch interviews were 8/14, right? I’m pretty sure NK said in her LE interview that when she saw the porch interviews on tv (and IMO she was following all of this in real time) she saw (paraphrasing) a different CW with no soul. But she didn’t spprosch LE until midday 8/15, after talking to her father... IMO

She knew they were missing on Monday and had a long phone conversation with him that night. The missing persons endangered alert (because of SW's health concerns) that went to press Tuesday morning contained the fact that Shanann was pregnant. She saw the porch interviews. I think that is when she Googled about police being able to find deleted texts. Police were alerted to suspicions of an affair by the company on Wednesday morning. She spoke to police on Wednesday.

 

[Gardener1850]

Wow, the SA is masterful.

Agreed. That man could get me to confess to my deepest, darkest secret (which at this moment is eating the last cookie in the cookie jar, lol). His voice is so calm and strong at the same time. He has such amazing patience as he knows CW is sitting there lying to him for hours. I love it when he finally tells CW that his story sounds a pile of horse crap (paraphrased).