GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #71

[molly1255]

He seemed to have worked up quite an appetite the night he stayed over at the Thayer's house after he murdered his family. They were surprised he was enjoying all that pizza when his wife and babies were missing.

JMO, in the interrogation room, he ate that pizza like a wild animal. If he ate the pizza the Thayers served him like that, it would have likely added to their horror.

 

[opalonyx]

You know, I'm having trouble again believing CW that SW put him into a rage. How? She was away for 6 weeks. She wrote him a love letter. How can you put someone in a rage when you are barely even around?

He was acting suspiciously due to an affair. ANY spouse would be upset, paranoid, hurt, etc. Being emotional and argumentative is typical when you are realizing your partner is lying to you and betraying you. She was probably confused because he kept giving her false hope and then acting cold again. She was pregnant, working, raising two toddlers and getting NO emotional support from her husband. And to realize another woman is the reason why you're distant and cruel?

But back to my original point. How could she somehow push him into killing her when she was hardly around to push? I doubt she said much to him that night. I bet he was cold yet again and she cried herself to sleep alone in the bed before he ambushed her and killed her. Just my opinion.

 

[NuttMegg]

You know, I'm having trouble again believing CW that SW put him into a rage. How? She was away for 6 weeks. She wrote him a love letter. How can you put someone in a rage when you are barely even around?

He was acting suspiciously due to an affair. ANY spouse would be upset, paranoid, hurt, etc. Being emotional and argumentative is typical when you are realizing your partner is lying to you and betraying you. She was probably confused because he kept giving her false hope and then acting cold again. She was pregnant, working, raising two toddlers and getting NO emotional support from her husband. And to realize another woman is the reason why you're distant and cruel?

But back to my original point. How could she somehow push him into killing her when she was hardly around to push? I doubt she said much to him that night. I bet he was cold yet again and she cried herself to sleep alone in the bed before he ambushed her and killed her. Just my opinion.

Until I learn differently I'll keep on believing that NK gave him an ultimatum on Saturday night, (because SW had been back roughly a week with no evident progress towards a divorce) and reinforced it over a 111 minute discussion on Sunday night, which was only a couple of hours before the murders. He was angry with SW and the kids because he was going to lose NK.
IMO
The mother wants to know what the "trigger" was, implying it was something SW said. To my mind, after the events of the weekend and the nearly 2 hour long discussion right before the murders, I think it's obvious CW was triggered before SW walked through the door.

 

[mtnlites]

And here's our master liar telling his friends he is having trouble eating since they "went missing". Really milking the "poor Chris" act.

Instead of trying to remember to eat, he should have been trying to remember that he was meant to be worried about his family. Except, oh wait, that's right....he knew they weren't coming back. Pass the pizza!

This guy. He sure did milk it.

 

[PommyMommy]

Yes, the blue hair avatar is all about domestic violence, but please do not derail the thread further with discussion of the color of an avatar.

Thanks.

Bumping

 

[molly1255]

Until I learn differently I'll keep on believing that NK gave him an ultimatum on Saturday night, (because SW had been back roughly a week with no evident progress towards a divorce) and reinforced it over a 111 minute discussion on Sunday night, which was only a couple of hours before the murders. He was angry with SW and the kids because he was going to lose NK.
IMO
The mother wants to know what the "trigger" was, implying it was something SW said. To my mind, after the events of the weekend and the nearly 2 hour long discussion right before the murders, I think it's obvious CW was triggered before SW walked through the door.

JMO, I think there was an ultimatum on Saturday night, too. I'd love to know if the 111 minute discussion Sunday night further reinforced to CW that NK was out of there if she didn't see some movement.

 

[MassGuy]

mmmmm

I think that’s the sound CW made before he ate his pizza.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Until I learn differently I'll keep on believing that NK gave him an ultimatum on Saturday night, (because SW had been back roughly a week with no evident progress towards a divorce) and reinforced it over a 111 minute discussion on Sunday night, which was only a couple of hours before the murders. He was angry with SW and the kids because he was going to lose NK.
IMO
The mother wants to know what the "trigger" was, implying it was something SW said. To my mind, after the events of the weekend and the nearly 2 hour long discussion right before the murders, I think it's obvious CW was triggered before SW walked through the door.

Me too! Hence the haste to delete every contact from her in his phone.

 

[molly1255]

Me too! Hence the haste to delete every contact from her in his phone.

I agree.

 

[Nikynoo]

I think that’s the sound CW made before he ate his pizza.

no, that was nom,nom,nom

 

[Seenit]

You know, I'm having trouble again believing CW that SW put him into a rage. How? She was away for 6 weeks. She wrote him a love letter. How can you put someone in a rage when you are barely even around?

He was acting suspiciously due to an affair. ANY spouse would be upset, paranoid, hurt, etc. Being emotional and argumentative is typical when you are realizing your partner is lying to you and betraying you. She was probably confused because he kept giving her false hope and then acting cold again. She was pregnant, working, raising two toddlers and getting NO emotional support from her husband. And to realize another woman is the reason why you're distant and cruel?

But back to my original point. How could she somehow push him into killing her when she was hardly around to push? I doubt she said much to him that night. I bet he was cold yet again and she cried herself to sleep alone in the bed before he ambushed her and killed her. Just my opinion.

I believe that his "rage" is just an excuse. Once a psychopath has decided you are no longer of use, the resort to anger. It could have been "that she was gone too long". If not that, then "she was always around." It just doesn't matter...in their sick mind they have decided that someone is expendable/useless...and if you aren't there too serve them, then here comes the rage. Does that make sense?

It no longer matters...you have been used up and time to move on. Truly the worst case of parasitic thinking.

 

[Seenit]

Until I learn differently I'll keep on believing that NK gave him an ultimatum on Saturday night, (because SW had been back roughly a week with no evident progress towards a divorce) and reinforced it over a 111 minute discussion on Sunday night, which was only a couple of hours before the murders. He was angry with SW and the kids because he was going to lose NK.
IMO
The mother wants to know what the "trigger" was, implying it was something SW said. To my mind, after the events of the weekend and the nearly 2 hour long discussion right before the murders, I think it's obvious CW was triggered before SW walked through the door.

Bingo!

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Until I learn differently I'll keep on believing that NK gave him an ultimatum on Saturday night, (because SW had been back roughly a week with no evident progress towards a divorce) and reinforced it over a 111 minute discussion on Sunday night, which was only a couple of hours before the murders. He was angry with SW and the kids because he was going to lose NK.
IMO
The mother wants to know what the "trigger" was, implying it was something SW said. To my mind, after the events of the weekend and the nearly 2 hour long discussion right before the murders, I think it's obvious CW was triggered before SW walked through the door.

He said he woke up that morning knowing he was going to do it. Wouldn't that have been Sunday morning?

 

[Doghairrules]

I believe that his "rage" is just an excuse. Once a psychopath has decided you are no longer of use, the resort to anger. It could have been "that she was gone too long". If not that, then "she was always around." It just doesn't matter...in their sick mind they have decided that someone is expendable/useless...and if you aren't there too serve them, then here comes the rage. Does that make sense?

It no longer matters...you have been used up and time to move on. Truly the worst case of parasitic thinking.

Except first they will have sex one last time with the person they are done with, just for old times sake. Smh

 

[mtnlites]

Except first they will have sex one last time with the person they are done with, just for old times sake. Smh

Ha ha, I actually know people who will do this. Or who have done it. Personally, I don't get it. If I want out then I am OUT. However, I can believe that it happened here because A) SW was really hellbent on saving her marriage; it makes me sad to think that the proposition of intercourse may have given her a false sense of hope and B) CW seems to lack empathy and be all about himself; I could see him thinking that he was being altruistic by doing it one last time.

I honestly don't have a feel on it one way or the other. I can see it happening and I can also see him lying about it and said it did. We'll probably never know.

Ugh. I feel dirty and embarrassed for SW for even picturing it.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

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Join awareness!

Bump.

 

[nwmouse]

Except first they will have sex one last time with the person they are done with, just for old times sake. Smh

I don't think there was any forensic evidence that CW deposited semen in SW before he murdered her. I'm sure forensics would have tested for that and it was not included in anything from LE.

I think he lied. There would be no reason for him to use a condom as SW was already pregnant so evidence of intercourse/sexual assault would have been included in the autopsy report.

He is a liar who occasionally sprinkles a dot of truth in between his own foolish, unbelievable fantasies.

moo

 

[opalonyx]

I think the whole story about having sex had two purposes

1) he's trying to deny premeditation. He thinks saying they had sex means things were fine before the "rage" happened
2) possibly wants to hurt NK. I wondered if he might have been upset when he heard she had a "family friend" spend the night at her house. He also may not have liked her efforts to downplay how she had felt about him and the fact that she said "his cheese was already falling off his cracker".

 

[ZsaZsa]

I don't think there was any forensic evidence that CW deposited semen in SW before he murdered her. I'm sure forensics would have tested for that and it was not included in anything from LE.

I think he lied. There would be no reason for him to use a condom as SW was already pregnant so evidence of intercourse/sexual assault would have been included in the autopsy report.

He is a liar who occasionally sprinkles a dot of truth in between his own foolish, unbelievable fantasies.

moo

IIRC he told LE that he always used condoms because SW didn't like to get "messy". He had a big supply of them in the house.

 

[Noreen McGurl]

As far as CW being back on suicide watch at first I thought he feels bad for Shanann"s family because they are so heartbroken but then I realized who we're dealing with here and what happened was FBI, CBI told him that the interview would not be made public nor would the picture but it was and CW being the narcissist psychopath sociopath "genius" dumbass that he is, is hurt that he was lied to by his "friends" and also God forbid NK might listen to it!! It might make him look bad, because in his mind he was just reacting to other people and their behavior!! Also the fact that his cellmates are screaming to him how to kill himself, but I myself am wondering if he's such a genius why he can't figure this out himself!?!? A normal human being, first of all, after committing the crimes he did would not be so charismatic in those interviews talking about how he has had so many things in his life and this act should not Define how people see him..... wake up call Chris ...you will be defined by this act now and forever until the day you die and afterwards and anything prior as well, and I think how dare you even conceive otherwise??