Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 #81 *arrest*

[Scootie98]

So I’m gathering this: SM knew at this point BM was tracking her conversations with either SO (likely IMO ) or worse for her JL. Was this the point she switched to linked in or what’s app? Was this early on or way late right before she went missing and she was like omg he caught me?

Sounds like the Arizona talk was a red herring....bait to somehow reel Suzanne back in to recontrol....jmo.

 

[Kemug]

the crack in the doorframe was done earlier - and this action precipitated her text to her sister about his becoming more violent.

Yes, I can believe this, it seems very logical. Did she specifically talk about this I wonder, in her text to her sister? Or at least give a hint? Looking forward to the sister's testimony.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Sounds like the Arizona talk was a red herring....bait to somehow reel Suzanne back in to recontrol....jmo.

There's so much info I'm sure I've got this confused but, is there texts/messages that indicate Suzanne and JL were the ones talking about AZ, and then out of nowhere Barry mentions AZ as well... or, was Barry the one talking about AZ all along?

This tween from Lauren indicates to me that it was Barry that brought up AZ to Suzanne, not that Suzanne and JL were talking about AZ:

On May 9, #SuzanneMorphew tells Libler that she had a fine night got pizza, looked at homes, and talked about Arizona.

https://mobile.twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1425123722827124736

 

[TIGER0822]

I read the Plunder transcript. I was going to copy and paste the words/time stamp but I am unsure if that’s okay. Starts at around 18:20.

JR & Suzanne had coffee on Tuesday, and Suzanne said she would be busy with Barry’s books the rest of the week. Suzanne basically said not to come by. Did Suzanne do that much billing for Barry? Was she just giving herself free time, or did she worry about how Barry would be without kids at home? Did she have a lot of extra stuff for Barry because they had reached a juncture of some sort? That whole week feels off in some way-what is said vs. what is done.

In my experience and when I was a stay at home Mom who had a few rentals on the side , sometimes I would imply I was more busy than I was to show that I had a job as people can be a bit mean about stay at home Mom. One example is my PC told me to ‘get a ‘proper job’ when I told her I was a stay at home Mom, a secretary for a non profit ans that we had four rental.

 

[steeltowngirl]

There's so much info I'm sure I've got this confused but, is there texts/messages that indicate Suzanne and JL were the ones talking about AZ, and then out of nowhere Barry mentions AZ as well... or, was Barry the one talking about AZ all along?

This tween from Lauren indicates to me that it was Barry that brought up AZ to Suzanne, not that Suzanne and JL were talking about AZ:

On May 9, #SuzanneMorphew tells Libler that she had a fine night got pizza, looked at homes, and talked about Arizona.

https://mobile.twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1425123722827124736

Here is another LS tweet about Arizona.

Lauren Scharf
@LaurenScharfTV

Replying to
@LaurenScharfTV
On May 8, #BarryMorphew allegedly brought up moving to Arizona. Grusing said this was the first time this was ever mentioned and Suzanne thought it was strange. She was looking at homes for sale in Salida, CO according to text messages.

11:42 AM · Aug 23, 2021·Twitter Web App

 

[DellaC]

Here's a scenario I've been considering due to what appears to be a lack of forensic evidence at the house:

She texts him to bring hot tub stuff
She is changed out of her suit (that's why it's in the bedroom) and into the shorts and string top (he claims this is what she was wearing)
She is standing near the hot tub when he pulls in - does she know / hear him pulling in? if not, she is cleaning the hot tub thinking all is normal
He pushes her with force into the hot tub and drowns her there
Body moved to cooler and driven to it's ultimate location
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the crack in the doorframe was done earlier - and this action precipitated her text to her sister about his becoming more violent.


In one text message Suzanne told SO, “says he loves me and can’t handle the pain from me not giving him the love he needs. Does not mention all the damage he’s done to me. Physically, mentally.”


In later text she wrote, “Told him I’m done. That I need peace. Not sure what’s next” and “He tries to use money as a tool and the girls. I didn’t take the bait.”
Barry Morphew In Court: Investigator Says Suzanne Morphew Was Having Affair When She Disappeared
(Note, changed BFF to initials)
BBM
As many of us thought - the communication with the BFF is going to tell the tale....
IMO

Possible. How does the unspent .22 round fit in?

 

[girlhasnoname]

Not sure about that. I think there may be footage at the HI and at least one other place, maybe the fast food place?

Yes, they have BM pushing the garbage way down in the can at McDonalds.

 

[DellaC]

In my experience and when I was a stay at home Mom who had a few rentals on the side , sometimes I would imply I was more busy than I was to show that I had a job as people can be a bit mean about stay at home Mom. One example is my PC told me to ‘get a ‘proper job’ when I told her I was a stay at home Mom, a secretary for a non profit ans that we had four rental.

Questions:
1. Could SM have been busy with BM's books, as was previously suggested, putting all in order for filing taxes? We have learned, I believe, that BM was not the most orderly person.
2. Could SM have been preparing to leave? One of my friends never let on to our group that her husband was abusive and that she was leaving the marriage. She was scared of what would happen if her husband discovered her plans. I was shocked when she told me she'd moved her stuff out while her husband was at work. I did not appreciate at the time what courage that took or that while a marriage looks fine to the outside world, it can be hellish.

Comment:
Stay-at-home moms, as reported by the Bureau of Labor Statistics , says the % of moms who stay home is on the rise! In 1967, 49% of moms stayed home. In 1999, only 23% were home. And by 2012, 29% were home. I chose to "retire" from engineering management and stay home with my kids...never regretted it, but I worked harder than ever before.

 

[swedeheart]

So it was right before she went missing that he talks to her about Arizona . Hmm.. that’s interesting.
ETA - He wasn’t letting her go to Arizona and leave him.

And maybe he knew about Arizona from spying on Suzanne’s conversation with Jeff. I’d bet Suzanne was quite scared by his mentioning it, or at least started questioning just how careful she was being when communicating with Jeff. Barry was intimidating her with that info, and maybe that’s why she reached out to Melinda.

 

[Brubon]

1st Bus loop where he didn't take a bus.
2nd HIE parking near an entrance door, but he did not check in.
3rd McDonald's where he did not eat.
4th car wash where he did not wash his car.
5th Mens Warehouse where he did not buy clothes.
6th HIE again, a stay in a hotel for work, but he did not work.

Not sure if car wash and warehouse are in correct order.

BM is such an "odd duck" as illustrated by Boxer's list. Zoo list contribution?

6 more days....

Justice for sweet Suzanne.

MOO

 

[DellaC]

I'm smiling because I believe Suzanne was the kind of woman who cleaned that lint trap every single time she used the dryer. I also think that this was probably the only time Barry had used the dryer. Or close to it.

Why did Barry take "tranquilizer materials" and admit to it on his trash run then?

It's an important piece of the puzzle for me - since it explains why no products of death, no blood, was found at PP.

As to your comment on lint traps, I know we clean ours religiously. My husband's parents rented out their house for two years when they lived abroad. Upon return, the first time they used the dryer, it caught on fire, an uncleaned lint trap being cited as the problem.

Similarly, my sister recently ended up in the hospital for a few days. While she was hospitalized, it was the FIRST TIME her husband used the STOVE!!! They've been married 40+ years, and she's worked during all those years. I can see BM being ignorant of laundry and lint traps.

I think LE asked BM about the tranquilizer cap. Clever BM came up with a story. Then LE had a follow up question about where tranquilizer materials were. Clever BM came up with a story. When we see the order of LE questions, we may better understand how BM added bits of revealed truth to his stories.

 

[oviedo]

Possible. How does the unspent .22 round fit in?

If he did use the gun to shoot the dart it may have been removed and fell out of his pocket - they didn’t mention fingerprints in it IIRC and this omission is interesting if true

JMO

 

[OldCop]

I too believe they were in separate bedrooms in the latter days or weeks. I think Barry was very much in tune with what was developing...and not in some distant denial. I believe he manipulated Suzanne and purposely instilled a false sense of security....giving her the impression that he was cooperating with her. I think that made it even easier for him to monitor her activities...because her guard was down. I think Barry had to act before his daughters returned....he was playing "beat the clock" because he knew Suzanne was going to leave, one way or another, on her terms....so he injected his terms. He couldn't allow her to establish safe haven outside the home...which had become her prison...and he was the warden. I think those moments in the last week where Suzanne was euphoric were tied to her false impression of Barry's actions and demeanor. He was putting on an act...and she fell for it...hoping against hope that he was actually going to let her leave "peacefully". Funny how she used that word..."peace". The alternative is the real Barry she knew.

I partially agree with your assessment, @Scootie98, especially as to how BM was acting/feeling/manipulating. However, I feel a little different about SM.
The defense made a big deal out of the fact that BM and SM were having multiple civil conversations, were doing things together, and there was no indication that BM was some evil monster who was planning on killing his wife. In fact, according to them, there was nothing but marital bliss in the Morphew household.
My thoughts about SM are that she was happy; happy that she had finally summoned the courage to tell BM that she was done and that she was leaving him. However, she knew BM only too well. She knew his temper. She knew his controlling narcissistic behavior. She knew she had to tread very lightly in order to not set him off. She tried to “please” him. “I’m making dinner.” “I’ll still do your books.” “I’ll come visit your jobsite.” (In fact she had originally said she was studying and planning on going on a bike ride on May 8th when BM asked her to come to Tailwinds. Maybe she caught something in his voice, but she did end up going there and then out to Moonlight Pizza for dinner.)
I think she, and he, were involved in a very tenuous dance, stepping carefully around the ballroom, each trying to maintain the facade. BM’s thoughts were about how he would end this ultimate betrayal. SM’s thoughts were that she was almost there. She was almost free……. except she wasn’t.
MOO

 

[OldCop]

As to your comment on lint traps, I know we clean ours religiously. My husband's parents rented out their house for two years when they lived abroad. Upon return, the first time they used the dryer, it caught on fire, an uncleaned lint trap being cited as the problem.

Similarly, my sister recently ended up in the hospital for a few days. While she was hospitalized, it was the FIRST TIME her husband used the STOVE!!! They've been married 40+ years, and she's worked during all those years. I can see BM being ignorant of laundry and lint traps.

I think LE asked BM about the tranquilizer cap. Clever BM came up with a story. Then LE had a follow up question about where tranquilizer materials were. Clever BM came up with a story. When we see the order of LE questions, we may better understand how BM added bits of revealed truth to his stories.

BM reminds me of LS in the Gannon Stauch case. Every time LE confronted her with a piece of evidence, she changed her story to make it fit.
BM thinks he’s so smart, but he’s not smart at all.
LE asks him about running around the house on 5/9. He says he’s chasing chipmunks. Why didn’t he just say he wasn’t? Because he knew that LE knew he was running around at 2:44 that day.
LE asks him about the tranquilizer gun. He says he tranqs deer and cuts off their antlers and that he also shot chipmunks on 5/9. Why would you say you were shooting anything that day? Because he thought that LE knew.
LE asks him about the missing tranquilizer dart. He says he threw tranquilizer material away on 5/10 in Broomfield. Why ever would you say that? Because he thought that LE might have retrieved the evidence.
LE said in the prelim that BM changed his story multiple times. He did this because he was changing the story to fit the evidence. The problem with this type of tactic is that you are making admissions. What is more believable, LE evidence or your concocted story to fit the evidence?

 

[Love Never Fails]

BM reminds me of LS in the Gannon Stauch case. Every time LE confronted her with a piece of evidence, she changed her story to make it fit.
BM thinks he’s so smart, but he’s not smart at all.
LE asks him about running around the house on 5/9. He says he’s chasing chipmunks. Why didn’t he just say he wasn’t? Because he knew that LE knew he was running around at 2:44 that day.
LE asks him about the tranquilizer gun. He says he tranqs deer and cuts off their antlers and that he also shot chipmunks on 5/9. Why would you say you were shooting anything that day? Because he thought that LE knew.
LE asks him about the missing tranquilizer dart. He says he threw tranquilizer material away on 5/10 in Broomfield. Why ever would you say that? Because he thought that LE might have retrieved the evidence.
LE said in the prelim that BM changed his story multiple times. He did this because he was changing the story to fit the evidence. The problem with this type of tactic is that you are making admissions. What is more believable, LE evidence or your concocted story to fit the evidence?

I have been reading Gannon's case from the beginning. Yes BM and LS are so much alike. I have met people before who do the same thing. They give you way too much information when it isn't asked for. They make it up as they go along, thinking they are believable. IMO, this behavior is exactly when LE would be alerted to the fact this person is lying and guilty of something.

 

[Ontario Mom]

And maybe he knew about Arizona from spying on Suzanne’s conversation with Jeff. I’d bet Suzanne was quite scared by his mentioning it, or at least started questioning just how careful she was being when communicating with Jeff. Barry was intimidating her with that info, and maybe that’s why she reached out to Melinda.

Can you or anyone point me in the direction of texts/messages between Suzanne and JL discussing Arizona?

 

[Bluebythec]

Yes, I can believe this, it seems very logical. Did she specifically talk about this I wonder, in her text to her sister? Or at least give a hint? Looking forward to the sister's testimony.

What makes me think it was pretty recent is the fact that BM didn’t immediately fix it. Being as he was so worried about what SM was sharing with others about the state of their marriage I’d think he’d be afraid she’d take a pic and share it.

 

[MissTilly]

I watched an Australian TV program today about Ron Iddles, a well known homicide detective who investigated more than 200 homicides during his career. The episode was about the murder of a Melbourne woman in 2012. Iddles said that the reason he became suspicious of her husband was that when she disappeared he gave not one or two possible reasons for her disappearance but a whole raft of possibilities including but not limited to that she was injured, that she was abducted or that she had run off with a lover - remind you of anyone?
moo
(btw: the husband killed her)
ETA perhaps John Spezze and Ron Iddles had the same hunch?

 

[10ofRods]

And maybe he knew about Arizona from spying on Suzanne’s conversation with Jeff. I’d bet Suzanne was quite scared by his mentioning it, or at least started questioning just how careful she was being when communicating with Jeff. Barry was intimidating her with that info, and maybe that’s why she reached out to Melinda.

I think it's truly coincidental that JL and Suzanne discussed Arizona and Ecuador, and then Barry brings up AZ.

I think he was slyly hinting, making her uneasy, throwing her off balance. Why would he mention AZ when he knew she was looking in Salida (and wanted to stay in Salida until MM2 graduated HS)?

 

[Boxer]

There are no pictures available of Barry dumping trash.

MOO There is video at HIE of the field coat, tree container and trash bags.