Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 #81 *arrest*

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  • #141
BM reminds me of LS in the Gannon Stauch case. Every time LE confronted her with a piece of evidence, she changed her story to make it fit.
BM thinks he’s so smart, but he’s not smart at all.
LE asks him about running around the house on 5/9. He says he’s chasing chipmunks. Why didn’t he just say he wasn’t? Because he knew that LE knew he was running around at 2:44 that day.
LE asks him about the tranquilizer gun. He says he tranqs deer and cuts off their antlers and that he also shot chipmunks on 5/9. Why would you say you were shooting anything that day? Because he thought that LE knew.
LE asks him about the missing tranquilizer dart. He says he threw tranquilizer material away on 5/10 in Broomfield. Why ever would you say that? Because he thought that LE might have retrieved the evidence.
LE said in the prelim that BM changed his story multiple times. He did this because he was changing the story to fit the evidence. The problem with this type of tactic is that you are making admissions. What is more believable, LE evidence or your concocted story to fit the evidence?

Wow, Old Cop! This is brilliant - maybe you should come out of retirement?!
 
  • #142
See, it's just a matter of one word. If you had said "publicly" in front of available, we would have understood. But to say there are no pictures available while we are still discussing PH where the pictures were discussed and/or shown, that means they are available to investigators, who have seen them.

And as someone said, one set of pictures was from a bank ATM camera next to McDonald's - very clever work there and good job, Bank. People really responded and stepped up to provide those pictures. They've seen them too.

Barry and his attorneys saw what was at the PH (which is a main point of the PH), and all of the footage is in evidence, according to the court. The Judge has seen it too, at least he should have by now.

I do wish there were more pictures, but I guess it's enough that Barry admits to the investigators that he was dumping trash at each of those stops.

He even admits to dumping things (tranq materials) that might not have been seen in any video. IMO.

You're right. I have to get better at copy editing. The clear and obvious images of Barry lurking, then later dumping a pot at the HIE is theater. He went out of his way to avoid cameras otherwise. I thought the McDonald's had the footage, there were like three spots that could be cameras around that McD's. I didn't realize it was an ATM that busted him! That's awesome, Barry screwed up! There were no cameras anywhere near that Men's Warehouse, based on my Google Street View exploration of that shopping center it already had a lot of vacancies and looked to be in disrepair indicating no security cameras.

BBM MOO
I had read or watched a video recapping the PH. It was mentioned that BM’s trash run that LE stated he was seen on video “pushing down” whatever he was disposing of, was captured by an ATM next to the McD’s. I will search and if I can find it, I will post it here if approved. I do recall this was mentioned by someone who was in the court room and going off her notes.

Based on this info, I did a little ‘map street view’ research and easily found the ATM likely referenced. It is one located at First National Bank next to the McD’s BM was at.

I attached screenshots of the ATM. I’ve also included the field of view from that ATM towards the McD’s. There are 2 small trash receptacles within clear view of the ATM camera line of sight that sit outside the McD’s. I circled them in the attached images.

It’s likely BM parked in a parking spot to the right of the trash bins and walked over to the closest receptacle where he was caught by the ATM camera “pushing down” whatever he was disposing of.

On the other side of the McD’s there are larger dumpsters, but they are out of range of the ATM and there did not seem to be any cameras in that vicinity.

Side note: This is the exact same type of trash receptacle I envisioned Barry was caught digging in at the front of Poncha Market on the Tuesday after SM’s murder.

Based on his own admission, BM was very aware of the cameras at the HIE. IMO he planned and was familiar with the trash disposal sites and likely picked them because he knew there weren’t cameras around. However, he didn’t count on the bank ATM camera capturing him that day.

What I do not know is whether he stopped into the McD’s for breakfast. I think it would be more damning for him if he didn’t and only stopped there to “get rid of trash” from his truck.
 

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  • #143
BBM MOO
I had read or watched a video recapping the PH. It was mentioned that BM’s trash run that LE stated he was seen on video “pushing down” whatever he was disposing of, was captured by an ATM next to the McD’s. I will search and if I can find it, I will post it here if approved. I do recall this was mentioned by someone who was in the court room and going off her notes.

Based on this info, I did a little ‘map street view’ research and easily found the ATM likely referenced. It is one located at First National Bank next to the McD’s BM was at.

I attached screenshots of the ATM. I’ve also included the field of view from that ATM towards the McD’s. There are 2 small trash receptacles within clear view of the ATM camera line of sight that sit outside the McD’s. I circled them in the attached images.

It’s likely BM parked in a parking spot to the right of the trash bins and walked over to the closest receptacle where he was caught by the ATM camera “pushing down” whatever he was disposing of.

On the other side of the McD’s there are larger dumpsters, but they are out of range of the ATM and there did not seem to be any cameras in that vicinity.

Side note: This is the exact same type of trash receptacle I envisioned Barry was caught digging in at the front of Poncha Market on the Tuesday after SM’s murder.

Based on his own admission, BM was very aware of the cameras at the HIE. IMO he planned and was familiar with the trash disposal sites and likely picked them because he knew there weren’t cameras around. However, he didn’t count on the bank ATM camera capturing him that day.

What I do not know is whether he stopped into the McD’s for breakfast. I think it would be more damning for him if he didn’t and only stopped there to “get rid of trash” from his truck.
That is great work and thanks for doing it!

I wonder if he had started to become alarmed when he was observed searching the shop's bin and I wonder what it was that brought about this alarm?
Did he become confused about which items he had placed in various bins?
Did he accidentally discard incriminating evidence and could not recall where he had left it?

I wonder mostly where he discarded her body? And whether it was intact or not?
 
  • #144
I have been reading Gannon's case from the beginning. Yes BM and LS are so much alike. I have met people before who do the same thing. They give you way too much information when it isn't asked for. They make it up as they go along, thinking they are believable. IMO, this behavior is exactly when LE would be alerted to the fact this person is lying and guilty of something.

And it's the very reason LE holds investigations close to the vest.

They want the suspect to find out what evidence has been discovered under controlled (by them) conditions so the creep has to think fast. He already thinks he's smarter than LE plus he panics and spills extra info.

Watching how LE played Barry is going to be a joy to watch during the trial!
 
  • #145
I found this:

"Suzanne also messaged Lidler to tell him that Morphew was contemplating a move to Arizona which she thought was ‘weird.'"

Barry Morphew appears emotionless for preliminary hearing - ImmigrationNewsAustralia

Wrong spelling of boyfriend. I hope this is an approved source.

Thanks.
Garfield Mine (& 2 other mines on the way there I have read)
This article sums up what LE have very well IMO.


MOO
Lions & tigers & bears…
BM is trying to outrun the evidence!
 
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  • #146
Do we know what kind of cyling gloves Suzanne wore? I always pictured open gloves, but if they were found wadded up in het closet, wouldn't it be hard to wad up the open kind? Maybe she had full coverage gloves. Might be chilly riding in May...

Suzanne strikes me as a tidy person... wadded up gloves seems an anomaly.... maybe she was in a hurry the day she removed them.... but why would she wear them all the way to her closet ever?!

I hope they tested the INSIDE of her gloves for DNA. Barry's.

Maybe Barry thought he could be clever, using Suzanne's gloves to disconnect wires in the garage. They didn't report fingerprints as I recall. DNA.

I rather picture Suzanne leaving her gloves in/with her helmet, convenient for the next ride. If Barry disconnected those cables, ber gloves might've been Right There-- and HE balled them up when he removed them.

Was it an oversight by Barry anyway, that Suzanne's biking clothes seemed to be on her closet floor? (Am I over-remembering that? Was it JUST her gloves? The shorts he retrieved as a scent item, were those on the floor too?

Did he have a Welp Moment when he identified the shorts for LE? I mean, surely she had multiples, but if you're trying to peddle a bike story, do you really want LE to see that her biking clothes are at home?

Maybe Barry's ghost-rider wife, when cycling without gloves, without her camelback, without her sunglasses, without those shorts. Barry, did she go biking in a brown towel?

I just want to make sure Barry didn't borrow her gloves....

So many questions that the other housemates could clear up but, with the exception of one interview with LE, IMO Barry prevented additional exchanges. And he likely boxed up Suzanne's belongings before anybody else came home... he'd say it was out of grief, but we know better.

JMO
Since Suzanne was a beginner biker and not in rough terrain, I'd say she probably wore open finger gloves. I wear those as well and when I'm finished with a ride, I put them in my small gear bag zipped on the front of my bike. My gloves are usually sweaty and end up kind of 'crinkled up'.

I can see Suzanne putting them in a pocket of her camo jacket. They might have fallen out when BM grabbed her 'biking clothes'. I think the camo jacket and black item <biker shorts> BM is shown taking in to the HIE were hers not BM's.

JMO
 
  • #147
You sleuthers who know this kind of stuff:

Was the prosecution required to put all their evid into the AA, or may we assume they have addl evid they held back?
Oh I think they have much more evidence coming in at trial. They only needed enough to bind him over to trial.

ETA: I just noticed you specifically said into the AA. I think the majority of what they have is in there, perhaps not all of the details, but generally I would say yes.

MOO
 
  • #148
So I’m gathering this: SM knew at this point BM was tracking her conversations with either SO (likely IMO ) or worse for her JL. Was this the point she switched to linked in or what’s app? Was this early on or way late right before she went missing and she was like omg he caught me?
Sounds like the Arizona talk was a red herring....bait to somehow reel Suzanne back in to recontrol....jmo.
Even I do it, and I'm an absent-minded and hasty housekeeper.

That cap was a recent deposition in that lint collector, IMO (and hopefully the guy who found it took a pic of it sitting no top of any lint, so indicating).



I think we're going to hear about coolers at trial. No reason for the prosecution to bring it up at the PH, since the Judge already has all the evidence (hopefully notated) and this was the defense's chance to question some of it - they for some reason didn't want to bring up coolers. Things that make you go, "Hmmm."



It's speculation. Reasonable, though. Using regular deductive reasoning and ordinary facts. It's almost as if no one wanted to bring it up, one way or another, at the PH. If in fact, coolers are involved, they must not lead to exculpatory evidence for Barry
Another example of an absence of evidence that is evidence.....this case is full of those items.
 
  • #149
I don't know. Did she and Libler talk about Barry wanting to move to AZ? Or did SM and JL want to go there themselves?
Maybe @NoSI knows the context?
There would be no downside to the Arizona move, from Suzanne's point of view....whether its Barry or Barry and Suzanne. I think Suzanne was aware that the only way to get money out of the Puma house was to sell it....Even if she made a ruse move to Arizona, temporarily....getting that house sold was a big piece of the puzzle for her. I do think she would string him along until she had access to funds that were tied up in that house...especially her half a mil. If you think about it...she was already stringing him along just by staying in the house. But that had to change, one way or another. The AZ move would be a win-win for Suzanne, imo.
 
  • #150
BBM MOO
I had read or watched a video recapping the PH. It was mentioned that BM’s trash run that LE stated he was seen on video “pushing down” whatever he was disposing of, was captured by an ATM next to the McD’s. I will search and if I can find it, I will post it here if approved. I do recall this was mentioned by someone who was in the court room and going off her notes.

Based on this info, I did a little ‘map street view’ research and easily found the ATM likely referenced. It is one located at First National Bank next to the McD’s BM was at.

I attached screenshots of the ATM. I’ve also included the field of view from that ATM towards the McD’s. There are 2 small trash receptacles within clear view of the ATM camera line of sight that sit outside the McD’s. I circled them in the attached images.

It’s likely BM parked in a parking spot to the right of the trash bins and walked over to the closest receptacle where he was caught by the ATM camera “pushing down” whatever he was disposing of.

On the other side of the McD’s there are larger dumpsters, but they are out of range of the ATM and there did not seem to be any cameras in that vicinity.

Side note: This is the exact same type of trash receptacle I envisioned Barry was caught digging in at the front of Poncha Market on the Tuesday after SM’s murder.

Based on his own admission, BM was very aware of the cameras at the HIE. IMO he planned and was familiar with the trash disposal sites and likely picked them because he knew there weren’t cameras around. However, he didn’t count on the bank ATM camera capturing him that day.

What I do not know is whether he stopped into the McD’s for breakfast. I think it would be more damning for him if he didn’t and only stopped there to “get rid of trash” from his truck.
There is only one reason to push down on discarded trash in a can or a dumpster....to facilitate new trash being dumped on top of it....to make sure that happens. Simply put...concealment.
 
  • #151
Wow, Old Cop! This is brilliant - maybe you should come out of retirement?!
Haha. No thanks, I’m comfy in my rocker. :)
 
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  • #153
I have been reading Gannon's case from the beginning. Yes BM and LS are so much alike. I have met people before who do the same thing. They give you way too much information when it isn't asked for. They make it up as they go along, thinking they are believable. IMO, this behavior is exactly when LE would be alerted to the fact this person is lying and guilty of something.
Agree, it's a type of person. In their personal life they are unaware they have worn everybody out with lying and having an explanation for everything, and are rarely challenged. They mistake people not bothering to get to the truth from them anymore with being believed, leading then to think they are "very smart."
 
  • #154
Thank you! There was a whole run of people talking about Fotis' rolled up carpet! I'm not losing my mind.

Yes, someone posted that and a few people, including me, responded. Then the original post got deleted along with a few of the responses and it kinda trickled on from there.
 
  • #155
There would be no downside to the Arizona move, from Suzanne's point of view....whether its Barry or Barry and Suzanne. I think Suzanne was aware that the only way to get money out of the Puma house was to sell it....Even if she made a ruse move to Arizona, temporarily....getting that house sold was a big piece of the puzzle for her. I do think she would string him along until she had access to funds that were tied up in that house...especially her half a mil. If you think about it...she was already stringing him along just by staying in the house. But that had to change, one way or another. The AZ move would be a win-win for Suzanne, imo.


I think it was a test on BM's part. If he mentioned moving far away and she didn't balk at leaving the girls than I think that was proof to BM that she was having an affair and wouldn't hesitate to leave.
 
  • #156
I am having so many issues with what we have learned, and have to keep reminding myself to deal with only the facts that will wind up in court. I want to understand Suzanne, and even Barry’s mindset. We have a window into their lives now, and so little makes sense.

Suzanne spoke of Ecuador and Arizona, to a man that she said she wanted to marry. She also said she could never divorce. Either location meant leaving her beloved daughters. I know they were both older, but leaving her kids… She was able to lie to Barry and take trips with her lover, but Barry was also her ATM. She bought a spy pen to catch Barry, but caught herself. She told Barry she was done, but met him at a jobsite and went out for pizza. She pursued JL, and investigators found no evidence of cheating on Barry’s part. Barry suspected that Suzanne was cheating, and checked her phone and showed up unannounced at one of her trips. So she switched platforms and continued.

I want to toss all of these details and just stick to what matters. Barry came home at 2:44. Suzanne was never heard from again. Barry says they were together until the next morning, and lied about when he left the house. Barry drove to where her planted bike was found, which was not on his route out of town. He did not pick up his worker as planned. He drove 3 hours to a jobsite that he spent 11 minutes on because there was less work than he thought. He called his worker to request additional manpower for that simple job. He did not bring the required bobcat. He spent the day watching television. He made 5 trash runs, one of which included tranquilizer dart material. A tranq dart cap was found in the dryer. He was seen on camera holding a teal blue article of clothing, which was not found. Suzanne had a teal blue riding jacket. Suzanne did not bike near the area where the bike was found. Barry asked JR to look for the bike, even though Suzanne only took her car to trails to ride. Even though Barry had Bluetooth in his truck, he did not pick up when LE called him on his drive home. When he was asked why he was going through the trash at Poncha Market, he wrote a note only mentioning his wife’s bike helmet and biking clothes. Barry immediately took possession of all assets and liquidated.
 
  • #157
Where is Suzanne?
The truck data is wiped at 5:30pm.
An eastward trip terminating before Poncha Springs or a westward trip toward Monarch are possible.
2:44-5:30pm.
A hike on foot, or ATV trip possible until 5:00am.

"Data from his truck revealed in court showed it had been at the home but had been opened seven times and the lights switched on six times between 3.25am and 3.49am."


Seems too coincidental that he went to the truck about the same number of times that he visited trashes.

The truck door opens once without the lights going on. Suburban people do that when leaving very early a.m. like for a flight, they open their car door and leave it a little open as they make load trips to avoid distrubing their neighbors.
In the still of a mountain night, a vehicle door can be heard a very long way.
It would not be disturbing, but possibly noted.

Truck light quote same article cited above by @charminglane

Barry Morphew appears emotionless for preliminary hearing - ImmigrationNewsAustralia
 
  • #158
I want to toss all of these details and just stick to what matters. Barry came home at 2:44. Suzanne was never heard from again. Barry says they were together until the next morning, and lied about when he left the house. Barry drove to where her planted bike was found, which was not on his route out of town. He did not pick up his worker as planned. He drove 3 hours to a jobsite that he spent 11 minutes on because there was less work than he thought. He called his worker to request additional manpower for that simple job. He did not bring the required bobcat. He spent the day watching television. He made 5 trash runs, one of which included tranquilizer dart material. A tranq dart cap was found in the dryer. He was seen on camera holding a teal blue article of clothing, which was not found. Suzanne had a teal blue riding jacket. Suzanne did not bike near the area where the bike was found. Barry asked JR to look for the bike, even though Suzanne only took her car to trails to ride. Even though Barry had Bluetooth in his truck, he did not pick up when LE called him on his drive home. When he was asked why he was going through the trash at Poncha Market, he wrote a note only mentioning his wife’s bike helmet and biking clothes. Barry immediately took possession of all assets and liquidated.
Two things caught my eye. Both BBM.

As I understand it, the location where the bike was found WAS on the road out of the Puma Path neighborhood. If I have misunderstood this all along, someone please let me know!

Also about Suzanne's clothing -- we've seen from photos that she had many teal/turquoise items of clothing. So I don't necessarily assume that BM being seen with something teal means it was her riding jacket. In fact, since she didn't actually go on a ride, her riding clothes were probably not contaminated with any evidence. And while it would make sense for BM to dispose of her "alibi" clothes she theoretically went missing in, he didn't seem to have done that with her other biking items other than the helmet. Her shorts and gloves were found at home. (I don't necessarily think a newbie rider would have multiple pairs of biking shorts although obviously it's a possibility.)

MOO
 
  • #159
COURT TRANSCRIPT: Suzanne Morphew & Jeff Libler MULTI-DAY MARCO ISLAND trip, Back2Back Barry Morphew


 
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