Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #83

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  • #261
I wonder if he did that when he didn't want to be bothered? He had an older iphone I think a 4 or a 5 if I recall from the AA. I can't recall if they had that handy silence button on them or he didn't know how to use it which is more likely. Or if he could have turned off location services...I'm a few generations away form that phone now so don't remember. I've been really puzzled by what investigators are calling "airplane mode" and off and on and exactly what the data they have is "saying". Also I'm wondering what data looks like when they don't get a cell tower. When that happens to my phone texts don't come in until I have service, no phone calls, and so on but I wonder what the data that is being analyzed "tells" or "explains".

I can tell you that the PP house is within the service range of two towers. The Poncha Springs tower is the one her phone last pinged from (the ping was 11.5 miles from the PS tower which is roughly the distance from the PP house. The other tower is atop Monarchs antenna covered section. The PP home valley is uniquely suited for terrible coverage. I would expect most of the communications in and out of that valley involve wifi.
 
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After reading the AA, I've been trying to figure out how the bobcat hits fit in. Here's my guess...possibly the body was in the bobcat briefly at one point (maybe it was part of BM's initial plan). I think this was premeditated well in advance -months even). Possibly...his original plan was to use the bobcat to dump the body in a hole he had dug well before Mother's Day weekend. A sequestered deep hole he could dig at his leisure a little at a time over the course of weeks or months, without anyone noticing. He knew the daughters would be away for Mother's Day weekend and he planned this all in advance.

But, possibly, something happened to throw off BM's plans that night. He darts her, chases her, maybe SM fights back too much. Whatever it was, BM has to rapidly adjust his plan. Freaks out even, multiple frantic trips opening and closing truck doors, gathering incriminating evidence to dispose of, etc. So he removes the body from the bobcat and...?...puts it in his truck? another vehicle? Did the "girlfriend" SD help? Did he use burner phone (now missing) that night to call someone for help?

This is all conjecture and opinion.
If he was chasing her when she was laying out she would be barefooted, maybe she was trying to get away and ran behind the blade so he couldn't shoot her again. Geesh
 
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@BrissyGirl and other sleuthers here

Could i bounce this off you.. your thoughts please.

I don't believe BM saw SM's phone when he tranquilized her. I was looking at the timeline of both BM and SM on 9 May. IMO he planned this..it was not in a rage over messages to JL.

SM knew BM was on his way home..
he messaged her at 2.26pm ''done headed back'' and again at 2.31pm ''did you leave''


What happened with SM between 2.11pm and 2.26pm and 2.31pm?
Last message to JL 2.11pm

She did not respond to BM's messages.. she was ignoring him?
SM would not have kept the messaging application with JL open. She would have closed it..knowing BM was on his way home. imo

Was she dozing outside when BM arrived home?

Why did BM ask her ''did you leave'' in his message at 2.31pm?



I have attached a section of the AA with BM's phone activity from 1.51pm
I wrote the timeline for SM messages with JL that afternoon(it is also in the AA).. bolded.
 

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  • #267
I think he was just mad that she was cooperating. Knowing Barry, he probably wanted to know everything she told investigators and she probably wouldn't tell him.

Just now (finally) getting the chance to get caught up but I agree with this completely. MG was doing something Barry couldn't control and that made him mad enough to fire her, just out of spite. You know, because "That's the problem with women. They get their little things going between each other and they have no respect for their husbands." pg. 59 (or something along those lines, so she probably "deserved" to get fired, just like Suzanne deserved to have something horrible befall her.) Whoever called him a neanderthal troglodyte, literally nailed it.

Many things stood out to me in this AA, and one of them was how MG's story as relayed to LS and as she relayed to LE remained entirely consistent throughout. Good for her.

jmo
 
  • #268
@BrissyGirl and other sleuthers here

Could i bounce this off you.. your thoughts please.

I don't believe BM saw SM's phone when he tranquilized her. I was looking at the timeline of both BM and SM on 9 May. IMO he planned this..it was not in a rage over messages to JL.

SM knew BM was on his way home..
he messaged her at 2.26pm ''done headed back'' and again at 2.31pm ''did you leave''


What happened with SM between 2.11pm and 2.26pm and 2.31pm?
Last message to JL 2.11pm

She did not respond to BM's messages.. she was ignoring him?
SM would not have kept the messaging application with JL open. She would have closed it..knowing BM was on his way home. imo

Was she dozing outside when BM arrived home?

Why did BM ask her ''did you leave'' in his message at 2.31pm?



I have attached a section of the AA with BM's phone activity from 1.51pm
I wrote the timeline for SM messages with JL that afternoon(it is also in the AA).. bolded.

I think she wasn't with her phone so was unaware of his calls and texts and that alone would have peeved him....

I think she went to her room with a different device.... better suited for video...

And I think Barry thought she may have left for... wait for it... her afternoon bike ride....

Unless he imagined she had left left, as in for good..... but I think more, he was asking if she had already left for her bike ride....

But who knows. To get in the mind of Barry is a very bad idea.

JMO
 
  • #269
@gsleuth of course, but I'm still thinking about your post on the previous page regarding no phone calls between BM & SM for three months! I just can't figure that out

I fully believe BM had this planned prior to May the 9th .... I believe that he didn't have to physically see SM's phone to know what she was doing, who she was communicating with. He lies, so when he says he had no idea about what was going on I just don't believe that. So yes, I agree with you that he didn't actually see SM's phone when he tranquilized her.

No one left Barry remember so the thought of SM thinking about making a move away from that marriage made that man's blood boil .... IMO SM made it very clear she was going to leave him, he knew it. It might not have been that weekend, but she was done & out, it was over.

I think SM was simply ignoring his text messages at 2.26 & 2.31. She saw the messages, but she just didn't have the care factor to reply to him. If it was me, I would probably have just looked at the messages and thought, great .... he's coming home :rolleyes: & ha ha he thinks I'm not here now just because I haven't bothered to reply to his "coming home" message.

Just some of my initial thoughts :)
 
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@BrissyGirl and other sleuthers here

Could i bounce this off you.. your thoughts please.

I don't believe BM saw SM's phone when he tranquilized her. I was looking at the timeline of both BM and SM on 9 May. IMO he planned this..it was not in a rage over messages to JL.

SM knew BM was on his way home..
he messaged her at 2.26pm ''done headed back'' and again at 2.31pm ''did you leave''


What happened with SM between 2.11pm and 2.26pm and 2.31pm?
Last message to JL 2.11pm

She did not respond to BM's messages.. she was ignoring him?
SM would not have kept the messaging application with JL open. She would have closed it..knowing BM was on his way home. imo

Was she dozing outside when BM arrived home?

Why did BM ask her ''did you leave'' in his message at 2.31pm?



I have attached a section of the AA with BM's phone activity from 1.51pm
I wrote the timeline for SM messages with JL that afternoon(it is also in the AA).. bolded.

I suspect Barry was already home when he texted to say he was on the way. He wanted to make it look like he was communicating honestly with Suzanne but let's be real, he's a hunter. I think he caught her by surprise, murdered her, then sent the last two texts as if he wasn't home yet. MOO
 
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I suspect Barry was already home when he texted to say he was on the way. He wanted to make it look like he was communicating honestly with Suzanne but let's be real, he's a hunter. I think he caught her by surprise, murdered her, then sent the last two texts as if he wasn't home yet. MOO
I think you just might be right.
 
  • #272
His face appears to be 'puffed up', smoothing out the wrinkles.
Totally different in appearance.
He hasn't been out in the sun.

Or maybe the county lockup gives incredible facials?

Just my ever-so-humble opinion.....
 
  • #273
I wonder if Barry changed a lot during the marriage? Otherwise why on earth would
Suzanne have married him? Speaking for myself, I would never have even dated him. Or if I did for a while (because of you know, his looks and charm) it wouldn't have lasted long. I find hunting gross, and anyway I would be looking for intelligence and humour. As my DH can vouch for :)
 
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(Redacted) states that she last spoke to Suzanne on the night of May 9. There are no electronic records that show that Suzanne communicated with anyone after her last communication at 2:11 on May 9. So was (Redacted) mistaken on the date/time, or is something else going on? -on page 5 of the AA
 
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I think she wasn't with her phone so was unaware of his calls and texts and that alone would have peeved him....

I think she went to her room with a different device.... better suited for video...

And I think Barry thought she may have left for... wait for it... her afternoon bike ride....

Unless he imagined she had left left, as in for good..... but I think more, he was asking if she had already left for her bike ride....

But who knows. To get in the mind of Barry is a very bad idea.

JMO

Thank you for your reply. If SM did go inside why did she not message JL after the 2.11pm message? BM was at the house at 2.43pm. in that time..she never sent any photos or messages to JL.

Why the missing towel? Why did BM get rid of it? That seems to suggest SM was outside.

Funny about she left for a bike ride..you just gave him an alibi for that :eek:

His mind is full of ''i don't recall'' :mad: Reading the AA..i decided he is not a man..especially now it seems he masked his wrinkles with women's make-up.
 
  • #276
@gsleuth of course, but I'm still thinking about your post on the previous page regarding no phone calls between BM & SM for three months! I just can't figure that out

I fully believe BM had this planned prior to May the 9th .... I believe that he didn't have to physically see SM's phone to know what she was doing, who she was communicating with. He lies, so when he says he had no idea about what was going on I just don't believe that. So yes, I agree with you that he didn't actually see SM's phone when he tranquilized her.

No one left Barry remember so the thought of SM thinking about making a move away from that marriage made that man's blood boil .... IMO SM made it very clear she was going to leave him, he knew it. It might not have been that weekend, but she was done & out, it was over.

I think SM was simply ignoring his text messages at 2.26 & 2.31. She saw the messages, but she just didn't have the care factor to reply to him. If it was me, I would probably have just looked at the messages and thought, great .... he's coming home :rolleyes: & ha ha he thinks I'm not here now just because I haven't bothered to reply to his "coming home" message.

Just some of my initial thoughts :)

Yes that is really strange. I wonder what was happening around that time..very little communication? BM (in the AA) states SM turned him into a monster. Typical narcissist..and he has a very warped idea of God's words about marriage..and intimacy. For Barry...it's all about what he wants and needs. yuk!:mad:

I think you could be right about ignoring him. Hahaha that would really have annoyed him. I had another thought that perhaps he had drugged her via a drink before leaving at 1.41pm. That she was already spaced out by the time he got back. That could be why she never sent any further messages to JL. Just a thought...
 
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(Redacted) states that she last spoke to Suzanne on the night of May 9. There are no electronic records that show that Suzanne communicated with anyone after her last communication at 2:11 on May 9. So was (Redacted) mistaken on the date/time, or is something else going on? -on page 5 of the AA

Yes this is odd..i don't know. I am finding the AA quite difficult..it seems very disjointed.
 
  • #278
On page 19 of the AA, Barry states that Suzanne rode her bike in the morning. Did Barry know that was a lie, or did he have no idea what Suzanne’s daily routine was?
 
  • #279
@BrissyGirl and other sleuthers here

Could i bounce this off you.. your thoughts please.

I don't believe BM saw SM's phone when he tranquilized her. I was looking at the timeline of both BM and SM on 9 May. IMO he planned this..it was not in a rage over messages to JL.

SM knew BM was on his way home..
he messaged her at 2.26pm ''done headed back'' and again at 2.31pm ''did you leave''


What happened with SM between 2.11pm and 2.26pm and 2.31pm?
Last message to JL 2.11pm

She did not respond to BM's messages.. she was ignoring him?
SM would not have kept the messaging application with JL open. She would have closed it..knowing BM was on his way home. imo

Was she dozing outside when BM arrived home?

Why did BM ask her ''did you leave'' in his message at 2.31pm?



I have attached a section of the AA with BM's phone activity from 1.51pm
I wrote the timeline for SM messages with JL that afternoon(it is also in the AA).. bolded.

I believe BM asked SM if she left because he phoned her 11 times without making contact (about 1:51 pm). SM did not text or take his calls during BM's second departure/return to PP that afternoon. MOO
 
  • #280
The thought of Barry chasing Suzanne and shooting her with a tranquilizer dart, and the fear she must have felt during those moments just makes me horribly disgusted with this cruel and arrogant person. It was then that she knew he was going to kill her; that’s just what I’m imagining. He may be smiling for a few days but the tables have turned a bit. He is now a prisoner of his ankle monitor. Not sorry.
 
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