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Maybe when Barry borrows from friends and family, he doesn't think it's a "real" loan.
I wonder if he pays interest on the money he borrows.
Maybe when Barry borrows from friends and family, he doesn't think it's a "real" loan.
Yeah I don’t get keeping the AA secret. Only purpose it served was that Suzanne’s affair came to light before. The order in which things unfolded only gave the public time to bring the pitchforks and torches Suzanne’s way. I think the redactions in the document took less than an hour, and I’m being kind. The Judge kept a lid on the case as long as he was legally able to, in my opinion. Barry can’t accuse the court of harming his defense-although I’m sure the defense will spend plenty of Barry’s money and the court’s time asking for sanctions and fighting discovery.I'm still looking for those "meaningful redactions." Other than the affair revelation, I just don't see it. I said from the beginning, the judge was reaching for any excuse to avoid release rather than following Rule 55.1 and the public's presumed right to know. Not wanting to start that whole discussion again, but PM played his judge privilege to the hilt just because he could. Not because it served a legit legal purpose, IMHO.
Colorado criminal courts have been proven to uphold secrecy to the public's detriment as a matter of course, as has been discussed here re: Denver Post investigations.
Naysayers gonna nay but the redacting of the daughter's names could have been done in five minutes and not have impeded either side in their prep for the prelim.
MOO
Maybe when Barry borrows from friends and family, he doesn't think it's a "real" loan.
Maybe the loans from others were interest free?Barry didn't like debt -- but he borrowed $200K from a friend and $100k from his father-in-law to buy the Colorado house? Seems to be quite a non-sequitur.
We don't know two things: How many .22s did Barry have at the house? And...Why was the .22 he turned over to the cops, likely the short rifle a non-functional rifle? Was it disabled?Not sure if or why the nonfunctioning dart gun matters. He could load his .22 (regular or short rifle) to fire the dart. To me, any tranq gun found, working or non-working, is a red herring. He claimed to be shooting chipmunks with a .22, AFAIK.
Let's focus on BM putting himself in possession of a .22 at the time SM is known to stop communicating. He didn't have to admit that and yet the FBI has it on record.
Open to correction if I am wrong.
MOO
Was it? I haven't seen that info about the short rifle. He was charged with illegal possession of it. Please share anything you know about that gun.We don't know two things: How many .22s did Barry have at the house? And...Why was the .22 he turned over to the cops, likely the short rifle a non-functional rifle? Was it disabled?
Thank you so much, @NoSI !!
Just wanted to point out that the bolded (below) is interesting! Was Barry always an avid reader, I wonder? (Besides the Bible).
"Mr. Lindsey/Prosecution is next.
3:47 PM: Mr. Lindsey states that if bond is authorized, he recommends 10 Million Dollars, cash only. He estimates that BM has 3 Million Dollars liquid and available to him. There is evidence that BM has been hiding funds from Suzanne. He has no residence in Chaffee County and no longer has ties to the community. Puma Path sold for 1.7 Million Dollars. He has several brokerage accounts and owns silver. Mr. Lindsey stresses that BM committed 1st degree murder and “deliberately and intentionally killed his wife”. There are many that fear for their safety if BM is released on bail. There needs to be a protection order if BM is released on bail. There is evidence that money has been moved around within BMs family. Family has brought books to BM in the jail including about how to survive in nature and what plants are edible. There is danger that BM may flee. Mr. Lindsey also requests that BM is outfitted with an electronic GPS ankle monitor, pretrial services, and that he has to give up his firearms."
Despite what some may think, I do not think it is fair to position the judge this way. The prosecution did not even use up all the time the were allowed in the preliminary so seems difficult to say the judge allowed the "defense to run on." and despite what we all might think about Barry's guilt or innocence, he is in Colorado, still presumed innocent under the eyes of the law and because prosecution did not meet the burden of proof positive presumption great the judge was well within the law to allow bail. Whether we think it was "high enough" or "low enough" it doesn't appear out of the norm for these types of trials. In my opinion the judge, if he was partial to the defense, could have dismissed and sent the case back to the prosecution...but he didn't, he sent it on to trial to be determined by a jury which was a "fair" move in my opinion.BMs bail is 17% of his liquid assets.
Let see, life in prison or forfeiting less than 20% of your money.
MOO Judge Murphy is not looking impartial.
Withholding AA for no discernable reason, minimum bail. Allowing Defense to run on, and take unfair time during Preliminary Hearing.
Wonder if this is his MO.
Or a politically expedient move.Despite what some may think, I do not think it is fair to position the judge this way. The prosecution did not even use up all the time the were allowed in the preliminary so seems difficult to say the judge allowed the "defense to run on." and despite what we all might think about Barry's guilt or innocence, he is in Colorado, still presumed innocent under the eyes of the law and because prosecution did not meet the burden of proof positive presumption great the judge was well within the law to allow bail. Whether we think it was "high enough" or "low enough" it doesn't appear out of the norm for these types of trials. In my opinion the judge, if he was partial to the defense, could have dismissed and sent the case back to the prosecution...but he didn't, he sent it on to trial to be determined by a jury which was a "fair" move in my opinion.
My interpretation is that there is a "tranquilizer dart gun" which was deemed inoperable and also the short rifle for which Barry was charged. What I don't know is whether or not the dart gun carries the same calibur chamber as does the short rifle.....22. I am speculating; but if Barry used a gun to dispense the dart...either weapon would work if the tranq dart fit the chamber. He could have used the short rifle, imo.Was it? I haven't seen that info about the short rifle. He was charged with illegal possession of it. Please share anything you know about that gun.
TIA
BBM. LOL!!!!I'm still looking for those "meaningful redactions." Other than the affair revelation, I just don't see it. I said from the beginning, the judge was reaching for any excuse to avoid release rather than following Rule 55.1 and the public's presumed right to know. Not wanting to start that whole discussion again, but PM played his judge privilege to the hilt just because he could. Not because it served a legit legal purpose, IMHO.
Colorado criminal courts have been proven to uphold secrecy to the public's detriment as a matter of course, as has been discussed here re: Denver Post investigations.
Naysayers gonna nay but the redacting of the daughter's names could have been done in five minutes and not have impeded either side in their prep for the prelim.
MOO
BMs bail is 17% of his liquid assets.
Let see, life in prison or forfeiting less than 20% of your money.
MOO Judge Murphy is not looking impartial.
Withholding AA for no discernable reason, minimum bail. Allowing Defense to run on, and take unfair time during Preliminary Hearing.
Wonder if this is his MO.
Seems to me if and it is a huge if he used a rifle to fire a dart he had plenty of time to clean the rifle. I'm not sure if they can tell if a rifle has recently been fired if it is cleaned.My interpretation is that there is a "tranquilizer dart gun" which was deemed inoperable and also the short rifle for which Barry was charged. What I don't know is whether or not the dart gun carries the same calibur chamber as does the short rifle.....22. I am speculating; but if Barry used a gun to dispense the dart...either weapon would work if the tranq dart fit the chamber. He could have used the short rifle, imo.
Unless DN appeared in front of Judge Murphy's court before, I doubt their paths ever crossed prior to this case:It has been stated before that Judge Murphy and Dru Nielsen were both Colorado Deputy Public Defenders at the same time, he from 1992 (?)-2012 and she from 1997-2007. How well do they know each other?
Also, this may have been posted already, but it's the judge's 2015 ratings Murphy Performance Review.
And Linda Stanley's tattoo reads (in Latin) ‘seek peace and truth through justice for the greater glory of God’. [Ref. Stanley article]
We don't know two things: How many .22s did Barry have at the house? And...Why was the .22 he turned over to the cops, likely the short rifle a non-functional rifle? Was it disabled?
Was it a sawed off rifle? I was assuming it was a short barrel rifle that was legal in Indiana, but not in Colorado.He probably had a few .22's. Every hunter has a couple of .22s ranging from their favorite snake rifle, to the one they teach the grandkids to shoot with.
In Barry's case, the non-functional dart gun was in the garage. Barry handed over the sawed off .22, his "chipmunk" gun through the truck door sometime after the fact when LE was pretty sure he hadn't handed over ALL of his weapons. I don't have the AA handy to give the page number, but we've all seen the screencap of Barry handing a gun out of a truck window. *SMH*, what a maroon, Barry makes me facepalm a lot.
If you truly don't want to start this conversation again, why do you keep setting up the same straw men, throwing out the same red herrings, and making the same misleading and fallacious arguments? Ignorance and cynicism don't form the basis for fair criticism of anyone IMO, let alone personal criticism of a judge who is simply following the law.Or a politically expedient move.
This judge can be criticized and defended here. That's fair, in my view. I only take issue with those who feel it is out of bounds to question this judge at all. As if the judiciary is sacrosanct and the lowly, unknowledgeable public should shut up and assume the best.
In Colorado, that has proven to be unwise. Mainly because judges have acted in secrecy in an open society. Why was Rule 55.1 needed? Because judges were not required to publicly justify withholding info from their taxpaying constituents who have a presumed RIGHT TO KNOW under the law.
Let's look objectively at what Rule 55.1 gave us in this case: Complete withholding of public information justified by the same motivations in place before the rule was enacted.
Read the judge's orders and motion responses. He is clear that nothing will convince him to lean toward release if he can find any way to withhold. And because he follows the Rule by issuing an order, we are supposed to take his reasoning at face value. I call balderdash.
If following Rule 55.1 places the public's right to know in the same position of being stonewalled as before the Rule, then there was no point in the Colorado judiciary spending two years debating and then passing a watered down version of the Rule fought for by those trying to get Constitutional rights to know upheld.
And that is what happened here IMO.
Seems to me if and it is a huge if he used a rifle to fire a dart he had plenty of time to clean the rifle. I'm not sure if they can tell if a rifle has recently been fired if it is cleaned.
Well, I can't tell whether a gun's been fired recently, but I imagine that BM, the self-proclaimed hunter, can. And HE said his .22 had recently been fired. In his backyard. Within minutes and inches of SN's last known location. Shooting antlerless chipmunks. Because that's what hunters do.
May I also point out, that although an officer thought Barry's tranquilizer gun appeared to be inoperable, didn't Barry himself assure them he had tranquilized deer as recently as April, 2020? Didn't he even go so far as to say exactly where he stood to do so?
I wonder if LE mentioned finding a syringe cap.... and Barry, perhaps recalled filling a syringe in that very area, in a month like April, just one flip of the calendar later.... and filled in his story accordingly.
I wonder if HE face-palmed his own self when LE or the AA laid out where it was actually found.
The weakest stories are the ones that circle wide of the truth.
But that's just my opinion.
Yeah I don’t get keeping the AA secret. Only purpose it served was that Suzanne’s affair came to light before. The order in which things unfolded only gave the public time to bring the pitchforks and torches Suzanne’s way. I think the redactions in the document took less than an hour, and I’m being kind. The Judge kept a lid on the case as long as he was legally able to, in my opinion. Barry can’t accuse the court of harming his defense-although I’m sure the defense will spend plenty of Barry’s money and the court’s time asking for sanctions and fighting discovery.