Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #85

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  • #721
Can anyone imagine the irony if Barry prevailed in a civil suit and the prosecution and investigators end up ultimately indirectly paying Barry’s legal bills. It would be one for the history books.
 
  • #722
Yawn.

Letter of intent on legal letterhead looks impressive, but we live in a free country and anyone can threaten to sue anyone. This IMO is bluster, to further a narrative.

Look here, not there.

Male DNA on/in the glove box that partially matched who-knows-how-many-males but may have returned partial matches to some named criminals, but likely no evidence to suggest a connection between those people and the person who murdered Suzanne, burned her journal, staged her bike, concealed her body, turned left, spent the day three hours away, making thrash runs and waiting for someone else to report her missing.

As for the other mentions, male DNA on the sheath IN the laundry s t r e t c h e d to suggest it was on the sheets --

Male DNA on the bike seat and handle bars -- and s t r e t c h e d to imply it matches DNA on the sheets, where there likely wasn't any.

What this did succeed in doing was creating a buzz and a diversion.

It doesn't change the facts.

JMO

Do you think they tested the DNA of the guy at the bike store or if anyone else works there? Surely he would have touched the bike at some time if he did repairs on it.

Someone else may have changed her tires on her truck and left DNA inside. Did she ever have it washed and detailed because that would have left prints too. So many different ways it could have happened.

Did she ever have mechanic work done over the years or seat covers installed? So many possibilities.
 
  • #723
Yawn.

Letter of intent on legal letterhead looks impressive, but we live in a free country and anyone can threaten to sue anyone. This IMO is bluster, to further a narrative.

Look here, not there.

Male DNA on/in the glove box that partially matched who-knows-how-many-males but may have returned partial matches to some named criminals, but likely no evidence to suggest a connection between those people and the person who murdered Suzanne, burned her journal, staged her bike, concealed her body, turned left, spent the day three hours away, making thrash runs and waiting for someone else to report her missing.

As for the other mentions, male DNA on the sheath IN the laundry s t r e t c h e d to suggest it was on the sheets --

Male DNA on the bike seat and handle bars -- and s t r e t c h e d to imply it matches DNA on the sheets, where there likely wasn't any.

What this did succeed in doing was creating a buzz and a diversion.

It doesn't change the facts.

JMO

Can you imagine the partial hits you could get off of your steering wheel or driver's seat? Every 3,000 miles some rando drives it over the pit and changes the oil. Time for new tires, another rando. Full tune up, that's at least two randos. Personal vehicles are just a potpourri of partial DNA matches.
 
  • #724
Can you imagine the partial hits you could get off of your steering wheel or driver's seat? Every 3,000 miles some rando drives it over the pit and changes the oil. Time for new tires, another rando. Full tune up, that's at least two randos. Personal vehicles are just a potpourri of partial DNA matches.
If what was discovered had no importance then why did prosecution hide it? Why not get ahead of it and disclose? Why risk sanctions and prosecutorial misconduct?
 
  • #725
If what was discovered had no importance then why did prosecution hide it? Why not get ahead of it and disclose? Why risk sanctions and prosecutorial misconduct?
I don't think they hid it....Partial matches are everywhere....all the time. I think the randomness of a partial match does not rise to the level of prosecutable nor defendable without additional evidence, imo. Every case prosecuted will likely have partial DNA somewhere in the vicinity of the scene of the crime. Its almost like a lottery ticket was purchased...and the owner lost it, and wants a refund.
 
  • #726
I don't think they hid it....Partial matches are everywhere....all the time. I think the randomness of a partial match does not rise to the level of prosecutable nor defendable without additional evidence, imo. Every case prosecuted will likely have partial DNA somewhere in the vicinity of the scene of the crime. Its almost like a lottery ticket was purchased...and the owner lost it, and wants a refund.
The disclosure that was held back was said to be a DNA match to a specific person…I don’t know how to reconcile matching a specific person to claims it could be anyone. I imagine if this doesn’t trigger remanding the case back to the DA we will learn a lot about DNA at trial.
 
  • #727
I don't think they hid it....Partial matches are everywhere....all the time. I think the randomness of a partial match does not rise to the level of prosecutable nor defendable without additional evidence, imo. Every case prosecuted will likely have partial DNA somewhere in the vicinity of the scene of the crime. Its almost like a lottery ticket was purchased...and the owner lost it, and wants a refund.
As an experiment, I wish that we all had easy, cheap access to DNA testing. Out of 100 or 1000 of us, I wonder what percentage would have partial DNA matches inside our vehicles, and how many of those partial matches would be linked to criminals.
 
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  • #728
If what was discovered had no importance then why did prosecution hide it? Why not get ahead of it and disclose? Why risk sanctions and prosecutorial misconduct?

Huh? I think the civil team is alleging that the State did not do enough to look for and/or identify the AZ sexual offender with partial DNA match from the vehicle and instead focused solely on BM. As this is still pretrial -- who's to say the identity and his alibi already exchanged and/or located before the trial? Seriously, given that this cost the prosecution PEPG, it makes no sense that the State would withhold this information! MOO
 
  • #729
dbm
 
  • #730
The disclosure that was held back was said to be a DNA match to a specific person…I don’t know how to reconcile matching a specific person to claims it could be anyone. I imagine if this doesn’t trigger remanding the case back to the DA we will learn a lot about DNA at trial.
Hold it, what?

The DNA of a sex offender would not change anything, as it does not explain the mountain of damning details and facts here. The great news is that if the defense is telling the truth, the prosecution now has an actual person to exclude, as opposed to some phantom.

Some predator didn’t kidnap Suzanne, enter her car, leave her purse, stage a bicycle, dump a helmet, force Barry to lie about when he woke up, put Barry outside when he should have been sleeping, put Barry in the vicinity of the bike, shut down Suzanne’s phone at the precise moment Barry needed it to, force Barry to chase elk towards the helmet location, force him to dump 5 bags of trash, force him to lie about working, force him to lie about where he was when he got that call, force him to lie about the state of their marriage, and Suzanne wanting a divorce.

He didn’t cause Suzanne’s footprint to cease to exist on that afternoon, put Barry’s phone on airplane mode, disappear her journal, scratch Barry’s arms.
 
  • #731
Hold it, what?

The DNA of a sex offender would not change anything, as it does not explain the mountain of damning details and facts here. The great news is that if the defense is telling the truth, the prosecution now has an actual person to exclude, as opposed to some phantom.

Some predator didn’t kidnap Suzanne, enter her car, leave her purse, stage a bicycle, dump a helmet, force Barry to lie about when he woke up, put Barry outside when he should have been sleeping, put Barry in the vicinity of the bike, shut down Suzanne’s phone at the precise moment Barry needed it to, force Barry to chase elk towards the helmet location, force him to dump 5 bags of trash, force him to lie about working, force him to lie about where he was when he got that call, force him to lie about the state of their marriage, and Suzanne wanting a divorce.

He didn’t cause Suzanne’s footprint to cease to exist on that afternoon, put Barry’s phone on airplane mode, disappear her journal, scratch Barry’s arms.

ITA to the nth degree.

Thank you, MassGuy.

IMHO
 
  • #732
NEW- Source of unknown male DNA revealed in letter from Barry Morphew attorneys promising to sue case investigators for false arrest, defamation denvergazette.com/premium/barry-… via @dnvrgazette


https://twitter.com/carolamckinley/status/1450619956874268673?s=21


Smart attorneys! Regardless of the outcome they get a guaranteed extra pay day! In fact I would call it hedging their bets.
Way to go cheapskate. You threw SM in the trash and you are now throwing your money in after it. All MOO
 
  • #733
[QUOTE="TIGER0822, post: 17218

You threw SM in the trash and you are now throwing your money in after it./QUOTE]

Well-phrased explanation of karma!
 
  • #734
Just about to begin Barry's 4th weekend of "freedom". I'm sure he's feeling his oats and driving everyone around him bonkers. How long will Barry last under the thumb of Chaffee County rules? How long before his mouth engages and he starts blabbering on? I'm sure his attorneys are stressing nothing but straight and narrow business for him, but I think he's weak and will start acting out before too much longer.

MOO
 
  • #735
If what was discovered had no importance then why did prosecution hide it? Why not get ahead of it and disclose? Why risk sanctions and prosecutorial misconduct?

They didn't hide anything. It's in the AA and it's LITERALLY inconsequential. A red herring.
 
  • #736
The new law is billed as a means to punish alleged police misconduct. Does anybody think that happened here? I'm waiting for the citation as I'm not familiar with its origin. Nonetheless -- I'm sorry for the accused and the added distraction.

It's already a circus and Suzanne deserves better. Starting to feel less jokey about a billboard campaign.
 
  • #737
As an experiment, I wish that we all had easy, cheap access to DNA testing. Out of 100 or 1000 of us, I wonder what percentage would have partial DNA matches inside our vehicles, and how many of those partial matches would be linked to criminals.

All of us.
 
  • #738
So Barry has a hearing tomorrow, in which his bond conditions and a few other issues are expected to be discussed.

I have it on excellent authority that the hearing will NOT be broadcast on WebEx, but there will be limited seating in the courtroom.

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This brings to mind the day Fotis Dulos was due in court for a hearing on his bond conditions and gassed himself in the garage. No grieving on the WS thread that I recall.
 
  • #739
This brings to mind the day Fotis Dulos was due in court for a hearing on his bond conditions and gassed himself in the garage. No grieving on the WS thread that I recall.
Yes -- FD was headed back to the pokie after his Surety found that he falsified his bond application, overstated the value of his collateral, and didn't disclose that the properties were in foreclosure! Fortunately, Chaffee County required CASH only from BM's release.
 
  • #740
The disclosure that was held back was said to be a DNA match to a specific person…I don’t know how to reconcile matching a specific person to claims it could be anyone. I imagine if this doesn’t trigger remanding the case back to the DA we will learn a lot about DNA at trial.
the problem with that is that every possible match in partial DNA matches to another specific person, times exponential persons.
 
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