Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #85

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  • #741
The disclosure that was held back was said to be a DNA match to a specific person…I don’t know how to reconcile matching a specific person to claims it could be anyone. I imagine if this doesn’t trigger remanding the case back to the DA we will learn a lot about DNA at trial.
the problem with that is that every possible match in partial DNA matches to another specific person, times exponential persons.
Hold it, what?

The DNA of a sex offender would not change anything, as it does not explain the mountain of damning details and facts here. The great news is that if the defense is telling the truth, the prosecution now has an actual person to exclude, as opposed to some phantom.

Some predator didn’t kidnap Suzanne, enter her car, leave her purse, stage a bicycle, dump a helmet, force Barry to lie about when he woke up, put Barry outside when he should have been sleeping, put Barry in the vicinity of the bike, shut down Suzanne’s phone at the precise moment Barry needed it to, force Barry to chase elk towards the helmet location, force him to dump 5 bags of trash, force him to lie about working, force him to lie about where he was when he got that call, force him to lie about the state of their marriage, and Suzanne wanting a divorce.

He didn’t cause Suzanne’s footprint to cease to exist on that afternoon, put Barry’s phone on airplane mode, disappear her journal, scratch Barry’s arms.
the only thing that would make sense here to square the sex offender and Barry is that they were accomplices.
 
  • #742
As an experiment, I wish that we all had easy, cheap access to DNA testing. Out of 100 or 1000 of us, I wonder what percentage would have partial DNA matches inside our vehicles, and how many of those partial matches would be linked to criminals.

I have worked at the same automobile dealership for 42 years. No telling how much partial DNA I have left in vehicles over the years. An unsurmountable mountain of it I suppose.
 
  • #743
I tend to not be as interested in following the details of the judicial process once there has been an arrest, precisely because of the type of shenanigans that this defense team is excellent at. Even at the bond hearing that was related to the ankle monitor, etc., they were so aggressively accusatory to the DAs office that my eyes were rolling right out of my head.

I know everybody has a right to a rigorous defense, our justice system is great, blah blah blah, but since I personally have no doubt that Barry Morphew is responsible for the murder of his wife, seeing this judicial sausage-making is quite nauseating.
 
  • #744
I'm the opposite in that my greatest interests are always the trials that aren't cut and dried. For me the greatest "cleanser" of information is the point/counterpoint that occurs from an arrest through a trial. I have no idea how the Morphew saga will end, but it has certainly been one of the more interesting cases to come along in a while. I personally think judicial misconduct will play a larger role than perhaps the rest of the forum participants think regardless of what the information was that was withheld and whether that withheld information changes the course of the case. It won't be difficult to prove misconduct if it occurred because everything is documented, times, dates, places, information in discovery and in records of court proceedings so far. Is the withheld information a red herring to the essential basis of the case? That remains to be seen. So again we wait for the November 9 motions hearing.
 
  • #745
I have worked at the same automobile dealership for 42 years. No telling how much partial DNA I have left in vehicles over the years. An unsurmountable mountain of it I suppose.
Do I have to think of your partial DNA or that of one of your work colleagues one day in the future will help some evil, arrogant wife murderer to walk free? Terrifying thought. :( What will happen with you: will you become a suspect in some crime?
 
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the problem with that is that every possible match in partial DNA matches to another specific person, times exponential persons.

the only thing that would make sense here to square the sex offender and Barry is that they were accomplices.
bbm
Coincidently the partial DNA match donor is sitting in jail in Arizona AND Barry had plans, to depart for Arizona as well. Odd.
 
  • #747
bbm
Coincidently the partial DNA match donor is sitting in jail in Arizona AND Barry had plans, to depart for Arizona as well. Odd.
Wasn't there several different partial matches? Are we sure the match that is mentioned in the Denver Gazette article and the basis for the accusation of prosecutorial misconduct is a named person who is in jail? I don't know that I'm sure of that. The basis for this particular charge of misconduct - the DNA match of someone in Arizona who is named - is related to information obtained in early August according to the Gazette article but not disclosed until after the preliminary so I don't think it's information that existed before, is not in the AA and was not revealed in court when defense called Cahill to the stand so is new information to us.
 
  • #748
I'm the opposite in that my greatest interests are always the trials that aren't cut and dried. For me the greatest "cleanser" of information is the point/counterpoint that occurs from an arrest through a trial. I have no idea how the Morphew saga will end, but it has certainly been one of the more interesting cases to come along in a while. I personally think judicial misconduct will play a larger role than perhaps the rest of the forum participants think regardless of what the information was that was withheld and whether that withheld information changes the course of the case. It won't be difficult to prove misconduct if it occurred because everything is documented, times, dates, places, information in discovery and in records of court proceedings so far. Is the withheld information a red herring to the essential basis of the case? That remains to be seen. So again we wait for the November 9 motions hearing.
My bold for focus. Did you mean to write "prosecutorial misconduct" here, instead of "judicial misconduct"? I'm confused. TIA
 
  • #749
My bold for focus. Did you mean to write "prosecutorial misconduct" here, instead of "judicial misconduct"? I'm confused. TIA
Yes - I did mean prosecutorial misconduct. Ultimately I believe it is the responsibility of the DAs office to pull cases together including multiple legs of investigation should that be the case.
 
  • #750
Yes - I did mean prosecutorial misconduct. Ultimately I believe it is the responsibility of the DAs office to pull cases together including multiple legs of investigation should that be the case.
Thank you! I was afraid I'd missed something "judicial", lol.
 
  • #751
Thank you! I was afraid I'd missed something "judicial", lol.
Unfortunately too late to edit. I must have been thinking about the judge and what the judge might do on the 9th.
 
  • #752
I tend to not be as interested in following the details of the judicial process once there has been an arrest, precisely because of the type of shenanigans that this defense team is excellent at. Even at the bond hearing that was related to the ankle monitor, etc., they were so aggressively accusatory to the DAs office that my eyes were rolling right out of my head.

I know everybody has a right to a rigorous defense, our justice system is great, blah blah blah, but since I personally have no doubt that Barry Morphew is responsible for the murder of his wife, seeing this judicial sausage-making is quite nauseating.
@Kittybunny I totally agree with you especially in cases where the playing field between defense and prosecution is not an even proposition economically. IMO One of BM’s lawyers underscored that disparity early on when she offered up to buy, I think it was “ tape recorders” for the prosecution.
The prosecution is funded by a state budget and has to compete with a defense that has a seemingly unlimited expense account. Add the spin, attitude and hijinks IMO , to the endless defense resources and it does get very ugly. As this case inevitably will be IMO.
Fotis was mentioned up thread committing suicide. I was all for that. IMO He saved his victims family, esp the five young children of JFD, from the dumpster fire the defense was destined to turn that trial in to.
 
  • #753
Do I have to think of your partial DNA or that of one of your work colleagues one day in the future will help some evil, arrogant wife murderer to walk free? Terrifying thought. :( What will happen with you: will you become a suspect in some crime?
At the current rate of partial DNA analysis expansion and my lifetime exposure I'm sure that one day I may find my way into the system. Hopefully my friends at Websleuths would come to my rescue!
 
  • #754
I'm the opposite in that my greatest interests are always the trials that aren't cut and dried. For me the greatest "cleanser" of information is the point/counterpoint that occurs from an arrest through a trial. I have no idea how the Morphew saga will end, but it has certainly been one of the more interesting cases to come along in a while. I personally think judicial misconduct will play a larger role than perhaps the rest of the forum participants think regardless of what the information was that was withheld and whether that withheld information changes the course of the case. It won't be difficult to prove misconduct if it occurred because everything is documented, times, dates, places, information in discovery and in records of court proceedings so far. Is the withheld information a red herring to the essential basis of the case? That remains to be seen. So again we wait for the November 9 motions hearing.
BBM. In Colorado, "judicial misconduct" means conduct by a judge that does not comply with the Code of Judicial Conduct or the Colorado Rules of Judicial Discipline. You are making a grave accusation that should not be made lightly.

What, specifically, has Judge Murphy done to date, that constitutes judicial misconduct in your view? If nothing, what leads you to suggest that he will commit judicial misconduct?
 
  • #755
Well, here it is Felony Friday again.
What’s the hold up on those documents??
 
  • #756
BBM. In Colorado, "judicial misconduct" means conduct by a judge that does not comply with the Code of Judicial Conduct or the Colorado Rules of Judicial Discipline. You are making a grave accusation that should not be made lightly.

What, specifically, has Judge Murphy done to date, that constitutes judicial misconduct in your view? If nothing, what leads you to suggest that he will commit judicial misconduct?
OP posted upthread that "judicial misconduct" was mistyped, and should have read "prosecutorial misconduct", but it was too late to edit the post. Hope that helps!
 
  • #757
At the current rate of partial DNA analysis expansion and my lifetime exposure I'm sure that one day I may find my way into the system. Hopefully my friends at Websleuths would come to my rescue!

We're gonna need to see your receipts and phone pings for the day, but we got you.
 
  • #758
At the current rate of partial DNA analysis expansion and my lifetime exposure I'm sure that one day I may find my way into the system. Hopefully my friends at Websleuths would come to my rescue!

We’ll just explain it’s there because you wear @NoSocks
 
  • #759
I am swaying towards that BM was encouraged to file this suit, and that the law firm filing the suit are doing so to punish / get revenge on the prosecutors in a roundabout way. Small town politics!
 
  • #760
We have discussed various places where BM might have disappeared SM's remains.

He could have dug a grave.
He could have put her under a new tree.
He could have thrown her down an old abandon mine shift. But old mine locations are clearly documented.
etc.

IMO, if there are old mines in the area there are also a number of old abandoned wells - hand dug. They can be 2-3 ft wide. These are probably not on any map. What is done with old wells?

Everything you'd ever want to know about the danger of old wells. It's worth a read to see all the areas that might indicate the presence of an old well.
http://www.royallpumpandwell.com/education/Sanitarians - Closing a Well.pdf

BM might have happened to stumble across abandon wells hunting or VFFing. He could have put SM in one. Might have even topped it off with one of his nice big boulders. His trademark.

Just thinking out loud. Aren't there still 18 miles unaccounted for?

JMO
 
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