Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #86

[Melsworld]

Holy wow! Sorry you’re dealing with it, but I would watch that mini-series tbh.
Just yesterday I asked a reporter on Twitter if this ( 2 weeks) is normal for both sides to ready their documents or if she’s heard what the delay might be. Hope I get an answer soon!

I am taking it as a great learning experience! Definitely a first.

I'll keep an eye out over the weekend in case you receive an answer. Thank you for responding!

 

[Cindizzi]

I am taking it as a great learning experience! Definitely a first.

I'll keep an eye out over the weekend in case you receive an answer. Thank you for responding!

Welp. Just got my answer to what is the delay on the case file being uploaded to the Court site. Still don’t understand what’s going on though.

https://twitter.com/carolamckinley/status/1454157409815990272?s=21
I have made a records request for the documents. No word on when they'll be sent.

Edited to Add:
Here is the original tweet from October 14 that says the Judge was releasing the documents.

https://twitter.com/carolamckinley/status/1448679221887266821?s=21
NEW: Judge in Morphew case is releasing the entire case file. Court clerk says both sides are going through their motions before the release will happen. #BarryMorphew has been out on bond for three weeks. @DenverGazette

 

[genuineusa77]

The golden state killer was caught on partial DNA and GED match profile. He was not in the database but was able to catch him through a distant relative partial DNA matched his. A partial profile definition means a full DNA profile of a suspect that only matches in part to a full DNA profile. I'm sure you all knew that last part.

 

[Warwick7]

As we know, Barry placed himself in the yard, in the vicinity of Suzanne's last known location, with a .22 he was firing.

As alibis go, that's got to be the worst.

I think it's true, the tranq gun on the workbench was, in fact, inoperable and hadn't been fired recently. Barry seems to be something of a trash collector.... I think it's clever that his defense team wants that inoperable, unfired dart gun to exonerate him, but how many of us think Barry only had ONE dart gun?

Almost doesn't matter WHICH gun he used. To me, what matters most is that Barry confessed to firing ANYTHING at approximately 2:45 on Saturday, May 9, at the same time Suzanne's digital presence went cold.

That, my friends, is a smoking gun. And he says he was holding it.

He came home to stop her from leaving.

That simple, that tragic, and not even original.

JMO

Excellent post!

 

[MassGuy]

The golden state killer was caught on partial DNA and GED match profile. He was not in the database but was able to catch him through a distant relative partial DNA matched his. A partial profile definition means a full DNA profile of a suspect that only matches in part to a full DNA profile. I'm sure you all knew that last part.

No. A partial match is a full profile compared to another full profile, where there are some DNA similarities.

A partial profile is an incomplete DNA sequence. This happens occasionally when there is DNA degradation.

 

[Curiousobserver]

No. A partial match is a full profile compared to another full profile, where there are some DNA similarities.

A partial profile is an incomplete DNA sequence. This happens occasionally when there is DNA degradation.

This also occurs when the amount of DNA is very low, just at or below the limit of detection. We don't have the details as to why it was considered a partial match. The results were not exclusionary to the suspect(s).

We need to know the approach they used. Extracting DNA from an entire sheet in the dryer is not easy. Separating a trace male profile from the female DNA that was likely on there is also not easy.

What we do know is nobody was arrested based on this "match"

 

[MassGuy]

Scratch this. I'll explain better later

 

[fcavanaugh]

So I think it’s been established that the DNA found on the glovebox (full profile) is a partial match to the SA offender DNA (full profile) in CODIS. Meaning, it is not the SA offender’s DNA on the glovebox but likely a relative of his. So they have the SA offender’s name from CODIS but not the name of the person/relative of the SA whose DNA showed up on the glovebox, that we know of. At least that is what I understand from my own research, and reading up on the topic here and other places.
For all I know, LE has since found this person and cleared them based on alibi etc., and has provided the info to the DC.

On another note, I found this interesting article that explains some things about the reliability of DNA found at crime scenes today, and the importance of having other corroborating evidence to be able to really put crime scene DNA into context, which leads me to further deduce that the DNA found on Suzanne’s vehicle glovebox and other random DNA found on the various other items is a big nothingburger, since there’s been no mention of any corroborating evidence found (fingerprints, fibers, etc.) to tie to any of this random DNA and no one else has been arrested, so…And again, imo everything, all the evidence clearly points to BM. IMO, his DC knows it which is why they aren’t harping on his alibi because they know he doesn’t have one. SMDH. The DC literally has nothing else but to try and poke holes in LE investigation and try to sow reasonable doubt in public opinion/future jurors. That’s exactly what they’re hoping will happen with the imo useless DNA, which imo they may end up backing themselves into a corner with and likely will ultimately backfire making things worse for their client, if that is even possible for BM to look worse than he already does.
Snipped from article at link below:
Why DNA Evidence Can Be Unreliable

Myth 1: DNA Is Infallible:
One of the most pervasive fictions, says Phillips, is that DNA found at a crime scene is de facto proof of guilt. That may have been true(ish) 20 years ago when DNA could only be reliably extracted from fresh blood stains, semen and other large tissue samples. But today's forensic technology is so sensitive and precise that viable DNA can be pulled from just a few individual cells.
This so-called "touch DNA" or "trace DNA" has given investigators much more evidence to analyze, but it comes at a cost. We leave traces of our DNA everywhere, in dead skin cells, stray spit and strands of hair.
“The hardest job for investigators is to differentiate DNA that belongs to the criminal and DNA that randomly finds its way to the crime scene.

There's something called 'accidental transfer' or 'secondary transfer,'" says Phillips. "The DNA on a weapon might come from the person who actually touched the object or the person who shook hands with the person who touched the object."

“Sometimes it's the forensic investigators themselves who accidentally contaminate the evidence. The guide shares the bizarre example of Adam Scott, a man wrongfully convicted of rape when his DNA was found in a genital swab. Scott's DNA was a perfect match — a one in a billion probability — and it was the only evidence used to convict him, despite Scott's claim that he was more than 200 miles (322 kilometers) away the night of the incident.
Scott spent five months in custody before the truth came out. A technician in the crime lab had reused a plastic plate that contained a sample of Scott's saliva from an unrelated "spitting incident." Phone records also corroborated Scott's claim that he was in his hometown at the time of the attack.”

“Phillips says that judges and prosecutors have learned from examples like the Scott case that DNA evidence alone is not enough to convict. With even a chance of contamination or secondary transfer, there must be other forms of corroborating evidence — like fiber samples, eyewitness accounts or fingerprints — that put the DNA results into context.”

All of the above IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne


Why DNA Evidence Can Be Unreliable

 

[DeDee]

The golden state killer was caught on partial DNA and GED match profile. He was not in the database but was able to catch him through a distant relative partial DNA matched his. A partial profile definition means a full DNA profile of a suspect that only matches in part to a full DNA profile. I'm sure you all knew that last part.

Yes, but we don't know it all. Look be cautious when establishing links to dna. It is powerful stuff. I know this guy...
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May 2019
The arrest in a notorious cold case follows the imprisonment of another man for two decades, and a false DNA lead that briefly implicated a New Orleans filmmaker.

... a warrant that forced the leading genealogy company Ancestry to reveal the identity of a man who had put a DNA profile for his Y chromosome in a database that the company had recently acquired. The profile had a strong overlap — but wasn’t a perfect match — to semen found at the crime scene.

Genetic Genealogy Helped Crack The Brutal Murder Of 18-Year-Old Angie Dodge

Angie Dodge was brutally murdered in her home 6/13/96.
LEO convicted one of three men <> "confessions" that Tapp made were false.

Tapp <> denied any involvement <> no DNA matched himself or anyone he named.

Angie's Mother continues to plead for help in solving her murder and finding her killer...

That DNA profile belonged to the father of a New Orleans filmmaker, Mr. M Usry. Detectives found Usry had connections to Idaho and had made a movie titled Murderabilia about the trade in artifacts linked to notorious killers. On that evidence, police got a warrant to detain Usry and take a sample of his DNA.

But it was a false lead. Conventional forensic DNA testing showed that Usry was not the killer. “Nobody ever thinks that they're gonna get picked up by the police and taken into an interrogation room and questioned about a murder,” Usry told CBS News’ 48 Hours. “When it happens to you, it's definitely a game changer.”

GUILTY - ID - Angie Dodge, 18, brutally murdered at home, Idaho Falls, 13 June 1996 *Arrest in 2019*

Oddly enough, Mr Usry had been in Idaho snow skiing with friends during the time frame. Hence, he has alibi witnesses so he could not have been with Angie Dodge at TOD. He no longer resides in NOLA.
May she rest in peace.

 

[Seattle1]

Welp. Just got my answer to what is the delay on the case file being uploaded to the Court site. Still don’t understand what’s going on though.

https://twitter.com/carolamckinley/status/1454157409815990272?s=21
I have made a records request for the documents. No word on when they'll be sent.

Edited to Add:
Here is the original tweet from October 14 that says the Judge was releasing the documents.

https://twitter.com/carolamckinley/status/1448679221887266821?s=21
NEW: Judge in Morphew case is releasing the entire case file. Court clerk says both sides are going through their motions before the release will happen. #BarryMorphew has been out on bond for three weeks. @DenverGazette

Somebody is being picky about what color they want to use for their redactions -- never mind that all we see in the public portal is black-out!

 

[sk716]

Went looking for this pic of Barry's truck over at the Daily Mail (I don't know how it is they have stringers across the globe) and is that Darke? The pics are grainy and I can't be sure. Why did he drop her off at the Comfort Inn if it is? Article from May, pics are from February 2021.

Video shows moment husband is arrested for murdering missing mom Suzanne Morphew | Daily Mail Online

 

[Cindizzi]

Went looking for this pic of Barry's truck over at the Daily Mail (I don't know how it is they have stringers across the globe) and is that Darke? The pics are grainy and I can't be sure. Why did he drop her off at the Comfort Inn if it is? Article from May, pics are from February 2021.

Video shows moment husband is arrested for murdering missing mom Suzanne Morphew | Daily Mail Online

That’s Suzanne’s friend HW. She wore a wire and is mentioned in the AA.

 

[fcavanaugh]

Went looking for this pic of Barry's truck over at the Daily Mail (I don't know how it is they have stringers across the globe) and is that Darke? The pics are grainy and I can't be sure. Why did he drop her off at the Comfort Inn if it is? Article from May, pics are from February 2021.

Video shows moment husband is arrested for murdering missing mom Suzanne Morphew | Daily Mail Online

Actually no, that is not SD. It’s Holly Wilson, she and her husband Jeff were friends of Suzanne and Barry’s from their church in Indiana. Holly recorded her phone and in person conversations with BM for the FBI. (AA, page 59-61). In part, BM told Holly words to the effect, you are Suzanne to me and told her Suzanne would approve of whatever would happen in their relationship. And when Holly’s husband’s head was turned away or not looking, BM touched Holly’s breasts twice pretending like the touches were accidents. What a guy.
Holly is also one of the witnesses that a No Contact Order was issued against BM.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne

 

[Ontario Mom]

Actually no, that is not SD. It’s Holly Wilson, she and her husband Jeff were friends of Suzanne and Barry’s from their church in Indiana. Holly recorded her phone and in person conversations with BM for the FBI. (AA, page 59-61). In part, BM told Holly words to the effect, you are Suzanne to me and told her Suzanne would approve of whatever would happen in their relationship. And when Holly’s husband’s head was turned away or not looking, BM touched Holly’s breasts twice pretending like the touches were accidents. What a guy.
Holly is also one of the witnesses that a No Contact Order was issued against BM.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne

You misspelled degenerate.

 

[sk716]

Actually no, that is not SD. It’s Holly Wilson, she and her husband Jeff were friends of Suzanne and Barry’s from their church in Indiana. Holly recorded her phone and in person conversations with BM for the FBI. (AA, page 59-61). In part, BM told Holly words to the effect, you are Suzanne to me and told her Suzanne would approve of whatever would happen in their relationship. And when Holly’s husband’s head was turned away or not looking, BM touched Holly’s breasts twice pretending like the touches were accidents. What a guy.
Holly is also one of the witnesses that a No Contact Order was issued against BM.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne

I don't guess I had ever seen a pic of HW. Very familiar with her statements and recordings. I think we can assume she was recording him on this outing, too. He just didn't say or do anything incriminating. The last dated conversations in the AA are from December 2020.

 

[sk716]

Do we know if the PH transcripts will be released with the rest of the case files or are we forever doomed to watch the Plunder videos? I'm a text kind of person. People are distracting, text is static. Yes, I am ADHD, why do you ask?

 

[Seattle1]

Do we know if the PH transcripts will be released with the rest of the case files or are we forever doomed to watch the Plunder videos? I'm a text kind of person. People are distracting, text is static. Yes, I am ADHD, why do you ask?

The transcripts are not part of the case file but are available for purchase. Exceptions for sealed court info apply.

Colorado Judicial Branch - Self Help - Forms - Miscellaneous Transcript Request Form

Take note that not all Colorado Judicial Districts participate with the "Cases of Interest" electronic record section for public access. Public access for cases not linked to court site are available per the following request to the custodian:

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Administration/Executive/Public Access/2018 final WITH HYPERLINKS P_A_I_R_R_ 2 procedures for SCAO, Courts and Probation.pdf

Colorado Judicial Branch - Administration - Public Access - Administrative Records

 

[10ofRods]

No. A partial match is a full profile compared to another full profile, where there are some DNA similarities.

A partial profile is an incomplete DNA sequence. This happens occasionally when there is DNA degradation.

To be fair, it's rare to find all 46 chromosomes in any circumstance - especially a touch DNA circumstance. Unless the person recently bled on the object. But often, there's one complete chromosome - which if autosomal, in particular, gives a unique profile.

If several chromosomes are found on an object, unless they are still in the nucleus of the cell, no one can tell for sure that they are all from the same person.

It's not completely clear in this case what exactly is going on with the glove box DNA, as it was explained by lawyers who, IMO, are notorious for bending nomenclature around DNA. Further, sometimes analysis tries to put chromosomes back together if it looks like they should go together, like puzzle pieces (this leads to controversial findings, for sure). What seems to be certain is that more than one Y chromosome was found - but how they would know which autosomal chromosome each of those went with, well...again, unless it was recent and involved body fluid of some kind, it's not easy for a forensic analyst to put a complete picture together. Y chromosome matches are legion (because it doesn't go through a process called "crossover" and so it tends to be passed from father to son virtually unchanged...)

 

[Seattle1]

I don't guess I had ever seen a pic of HW. Very familiar with her statements and recordings. I think we can assume she was recording him on this outing, too. He just didn't say or do anything incriminating. The last dated conversations in the AA are from December 2020.

I recall MSM referring to HW as "mystery redhead."

 

[MrsWatson]

I think this DNA is a potential A-Ha moment of the defense's part. They hope that a jury will hear "partial match" and think it's significant to the case. I don't think it has anything whatsoever to do with Suzanne's disappearance, and I think most reasonable people will understand that. The defense is hoping for just that one, though, who may think differently.

It will not, however, erase the mountains of other evidence that leads directly to no one but BM.

moo