Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #87

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I am sure forensic officers could tell the difference between a natural split and a door which had been forced.
I would need to know how long it has been split. I have seen worse than that in our rentals where I know who and when someone forced open a door. And I have seen splits from poorly installed hardware. From anecdotal rumors about his quick to temper it is entirely possible he shoved the door open somewhere in time but I am not convinced yet it occurred on May 9 or 10.
 
  • #162
The broken doorframe-is it me or is anyone else having a bit of trouble with the black and white image and exactly how busted it looks? Oh how I wish the AA had been copied in on a color scanner with decent resolution. Some parts of my house are rather rustic with hand hewn beams, and some split on their own in time. If the photo was better I might have an opinion as to whether it was a natural split or the door was forced open.
Not just you.
 
  • #163
OR, did he originally book the room for Saturday-forward, so he could ‘hold’ the room so to speak to be assured access to it early Sunday morning since technically the room would have been paid for starting Saturday?? But, wouldn’t the hotel wonder why he didn’t occupy/stay in the room at all on Saturday? Would they even care someone booked and paid for a room and didn’t even show up that day to check-in nor stay in the room? I guess maybe not as long as the room is paid for/they get their money? Did he book it online for Saturday-forward and get the key room access through app on his phone? I realize these are rhetorical questions but inquiring minds really want to know lol.

RSBM

Great Post

I think Saturday as arrival day in hotel is very possible, and I think he could have got round the non-arrival by ringing up on his 2nd device (convinced there were phonecalls made from 2nd device on the Saturday- but quite likely wrong) saying he was stuck at work or something and would be leaving 1st thing Sunday - would a hotel log this info for their records or would it be passed by word of mouth?
 
  • #164
Questions about the broken doorframe: What kind of repair would have been necessary to minimize the look of the thing? If the frame cracked as shown in the AA, would that have been sufficient to open the door? Would some other part of the door have been damaged/disoriented (thinking of strike plate or latch)? Is this one of the many clean up tasks BM would have had to accomplish before leaving for Salida?

Has anyone generated a list of possible clean up tasks? Just wondering what was packed in the truck and disposes of in Bloomfield +.
You bring up a really interesting point. We have have never speculated as to what might have been in those five bags of evidence dumped in Broomfield. Maybe the dart, her clothing, but what else?

I have also entertained the thought BM might have disposed of some evidence in his afternoon "errands" sat 5/9. Maybe even in MG's apartment dumpster early 5/10?
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Obviously BM knew what evidence he needed to disappear. IMO, Barry didn't listen to those Crime casts for pure entertainment...

JMO and IMO.
 
  • #165
You bring up a really interesting point. We have have never speculated as to what might have been in those five bags of evidence dumped in Broomfield. Maybe the dart, her clothing, but what else?

I have also entertained the thought BM might have disposed of some evidence in his afternoon "errands" sat 5/9. Maybe even in MG's apartment dumpster early 5/10?
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Obviously BM knew what evidence he needed to disappear. IMO, Barry didn't listen to those Crime casts for pure entertainment...

JMO and IMO.
Yes! I am very interested in knowing what LE found in his truck compared to what he was seen carrying into the hotel ( He HAD to know he was on camera, right? ). Didn’t they seize his truck that night when he showed up at the bike scene ? If those items weren’t in his truck, then he disposed of them. I think the 5 trash runs have to be pretty damning IMO no matter how the Defense tries to downplay them. JMO

https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1440017017692692482?s=21
PHOTO of #BarryMorphew walking into the Broomfield hotel at 8:46 a.m. carrying two white trash bags a khaki backpack, a pair of boots, a darked-colored item, and a piece of clothing with blue-teal coloring, according to the arrest affidavit.
 

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  • #166
You bring up a really interesting point. We have have never speculated as to what might have been in those five bags of evidence dumped in Broomfield. Maybe the dart, her clothing, but what else?

I have also entertained the thought BM might have disposed of some evidence in his afternoon "errands" sat 5/9. Maybe even in MG's apartment dumpster early 5/10?
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Obviously BM knew what evidence he needed to disappear. IMO, Barry didn't listen to those Crime casts for pure entertainment...

JMO and IMO.
Perhaps he also disposed of the clothing and shoes that he wore when Suzanne died and he disposed of her remains. Didn’t he admit to throwing out, during his trash dumping odyssey, his work boots but keeping the laces? Maybe he threw out the brown towel, her phone charger and disassembled and tossed out parts of her cell phone. He should’ve scooped out the burnt remnants from the home’s fireplace, but it now seems he overlooked that detail.

My guess is that he separated the trash dumps by category, his belongings dumped together discretely from Suzanne's stuff. Maybe the multiple trash dumps were not due to a large amount of trash but due to strategic separation of certain items from others.
 
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Yes! I am very interested in knowing what LE found in his truck compared to what he was seen carrying into the hotel ( He HAD to know he was on camera, right? ). Didn’t they seize his truck that night when he showed up at the bike scene ? If those items weren’t in his truck, then he disposed of them. I think the 5 trash runs have to be pretty damning IMO no matter how the Defense tries to downplay them. JMO

https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1440017017692692482?s=21
PHOTO of #BarryMorphew walking into the Broomfield hotel at 8:46 a.m. carrying two white trash bags a khaki backpack, a pair of boots, a darked-colored item, and a piece of clothing with blue-teal coloring, according to the arrest affidavit.

I know they interviewed him at 1 am on the 11th. I don't know if they seized his truck at that time or not though. The telematics warrant was issued on the 14th. The forensics section is dated the 12th.
(CBI Crime Scene Report)
FBI Special Agent (SA) Grusing provided the following excerpts from the CBI Crime Scene Report, Lab Case #P20-1889, written by CBI Crime Scene Analyst Tanya Atkinson:

Regarding the interior of Barry’s F-350 on May 12,2020: “The interior of the truck was cluttered with several personal items. The interior dash area was dusty and dirty.”15

15 The interior condition of Barry’s truck conflicts with his subsequent statements to CBI and FBI that the purposes of his five trash runs in Broomfield were to “clean out his truck.”
 
  • #168
:):)
The first patch. I will post as i get more. :)

Pics are courtesy of Kelly, a great friend, person, and steadfast supporter of Suzanne.

Thanks for posting these. the bottom one is mine and I’m glad it made it in time :)
 
  • #169
Perhaps he also disposed of the clothing and shoes that he wore when Suzanne died and he disposed of her remains. Didn’t he admit to throwing out, during his trash dumping odyssey, his work boots but keeping the laces? Maybe he threw out the brown towel, her phone charger and disassembled and tossed out parts of her cell phone. He should’ve scooped out the burnt remnants from the home’s fireplace, but it now seems he overlooked that detail.

My guess is that he separated the trash dumps by category, his belongings dumped together discretely from Suzanne's stuff. Maybe the multiple trash dumps were not due to a large amount of trash but due to strategic separation of certain items from others.

BBM - this makes a whole lot of sense to me. Both McDonald's dumps were small items (two different receptacles, one location.). Maybe the Men's Warehouse dump was his clothes and he took so long making sure there weren't any signs of his crime on the items since there weren't any cameras. Nobody is going to think twice about seeing worn men's clothing in a men's clothing store dumpster (Some shoplifters like to trade their old clothes for new outfits).

I've been pondering what all of the stuff he needed to get rid of was and I'm at a loss. He should have left Suzanne's clothes with her body, but we see him carrying what looks like her biking jacket at the HIE. So was the biking story an afterthought and he gathered those items after he finished hiding her body? Her phone charger could be with the body because he was going to go with the did-a-runner story but didn't at the last minute.

He as much as admitted to dumping the dart and syringe in Broomfield. I believe that Grusing thinks those were what went in the McDs trash. Dart in one, syringes in the other.

We've done a lot of debating about the big plastic container. I think he had it handy and just tossed things into it that he needed to get rid of. At every trash stop he takes at least a couple of minutes to make the dump, sometimes it seems he's sorting as he goes, opening and closing doors multiple times. He trashed the container at the last trash dump when he didn't need it anymore.

Lest we forget Barry's 6th trash dump at the Poncha Market on the 12th. When the mgr saw him digging in the trash Barry wrote the infamous "baby blue bike helmet" note.

This all leaves me wondering what was in the RTD bus stop trash dump. Whatever it was, he wanted to be rid of it first.
 
  • #170
BBM - this makes a whole lot of sense to me. Both McDonald's dumps were small items (two different receptacles, one location.). Maybe the Men's Warehouse dump was his clothes and he took so long making sure there weren't any signs of his crime on the items since there weren't any cameras. Nobody is going to think twice about seeing worn men's clothing in a men's clothing store dumpster (Some shoplifters like to trade their old clothes for new outfits).

I've been pondering what all of the stuff he needed to get rid of was and I'm at a loss. He should have left Suzanne's clothes with her body, but we see him carrying what looks like her biking jacket at the HIE. So was the biking story an afterthought and he gathered those items after he finished hiding her body? Her phone charger could be with the body because he was going to go with the did-a-runner story but didn't at the last minute.

He as much as admitted to dumping the dart and syringe in Broomfield. I believe that Grusing thinks those were what went in the McDs trash. Dart in one, syringes in the other.

We've done a lot of debating about the big plastic container. I think he had it handy and just tossed things into it that he needed to get rid of. At every trash stop he takes at least a couple of minutes to make the dump, sometimes it seems he's sorting as he goes, opening and closing doors multiple times. He trashed the container at the last trash dump when he didn't need it anymore.

Lest we forget Barry's 6th trash dump at the Poncha Market on the 12th. When the mgr saw him digging in the trash Barry wrote the infamous "baby blue bike helmet" note.

This all leaves me wondering what was in the RTD bus stop trash dump. Whatever it was, he wanted to be rid of it first.

Great post

I think also, it's interesting in terms of staging, because the dumps are completely irrational. Yes it makes sense to separate the victim's stuff from his own, and maybe the murder stuff from both. But he links them all together, even if not for the camera, then his direction of travel - defeats the whole purpose of being elsewhere.

He needed to dump all the victim/murder stuff with the body. But in my opinion, we are watching the evolution of the staging.
 
  • #171
At every trash stop he takes at least a couple of minutes to make the dump, sometimes it seems he's sorting as he goes, opening and closing doors multiple times. He trashed the container at the last trash dump when he didn't need it anymore.

RSBM

He may have been cleaning fingerprints off things.
 
  • #172
Yes! I am very interested in knowing what LE found in his truck compared to what he was seen carrying into the hotel ( He HAD to know he was on camera, right? ). Didn’t they seize his truck that night when he showed up at the bike scene ? If those items weren’t in his truck, then he disposed of them. I think the 5 trash runs have to be pretty damning IMO no matter how the Defense tries to downplay them. JMO

https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1440017017692692482?s=21
PHOTO of #BarryMorphew walking into the Broomfield hotel at 8:46 a.m. carrying two white trash bags a khaki backpack, a pair of boots, a darked-colored item, and a piece of clothing with blue-teal coloring, according to the arrest affidavit.
I was looking closely at his hands to see if any indication of scrapes/scratches was evident...not a good picture...but, I would hope that LE is looking at his hands in every possible photo...after all, BM said he got those scrapes and scratches when he was searching for SM.
 
  • #173
Yes! I am very interested in knowing what LE found in his truck compared to what he was seen carrying into the hotel ( He HAD to know he was on camera, right? ). Didn’t they seize his truck that night when he showed up at the bike scene ? If those items weren’t in his truck, then he disposed of them. I think the 5 trash runs have to be pretty damning IMO no matter how the Defense tries to downplay them. JMO

https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1440017017692692482?s=21
PHOTO of #BarryMorphew walking into the Broomfield hotel at 8:46 a.m. carrying two white trash bags a khaki backpack, a pair of boots, a darked-colored item, and a piece of clothing with blue-teal coloring, according to the arrest affidavit.
He's looking at the camera, it seems. So no problem with these things ......

I notice, he hasn't large feet despite cowboy boots. Very remarkable for the time, when we will need to know perhaps.
 
  • #174
You bring up a really interesting point. We have have never speculated as to what might have been in those five bags of evidence dumped in Broomfield. Maybe the dart, her clothing, but what else?

I have also entertained the thought BM might have disposed of some evidence in his afternoon "errands" sat 5/9. Maybe even in MG's apartment dumpster early 5/10?
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Obviously BM knew what evidence he needed to disappear. IMO, Barry didn't listen to those Crime casts for pure entertainment...

JMO and IMO.
Might be, he had to dispose evidence of other not entirely legal "adventures", because he knew, his home would be searched by LE. - I only guess the worst, when it comes to him.
 
  • #175
Great post

I think also, it's interesting in terms of staging, because the dumps are completely irrational. Yes it makes sense to separate the victim's stuff from his own, and maybe the murder stuff from both. But he links them all together, even if not for the camera, then his direction of travel - defeats the whole purpose of being elsewhere.

He needed to dump all the victim/murder stuff with the body. But in my opinion, we are watching the evolution of the staging.

Not really, I did a lot of research into landfills a few threads back. The McDonald's cans were honestly silly, I don't know how he thought those bags were going to end up anywhere but together.

On landfills, even when you have a grid system so that you know where every truck emptied that day the sheer volume of trash makes finding anything not particularly big or solid incredibly difficult. There was a case in CA, I believe, they knew the body went into the garbage truck and knew exactly which square the truck emptied in, but with accumulated layers and smells they couldn't find the body.
 
  • #176
Might be, he had to dispose evidence of other not entirely legal "adventures", because he knew, his home would be searched by LE. - I only guess the worst, when it comes to him.
Anything is possible...it's all going to come down to what prosecution can prove or convince a jury of. The boots and coat are believable...and I've said before my guys keep their shoelaces when they pitch boots. The plastic pots...believeable. I filthy truck...we heard about from LE. I'm more curious about what was turquoise...it's an odd color, although we all saw with our own eyes Barry in a pink t-shirt :-)
 
  • #177
Anything is possible...it's all going to come down to what prosecution can prove or convince a jury of. The boots and coat are believable...and I've said before my guys keep their shoelaces when they pitch boots. The plastic pots...believeable. I filthy truck...we heard about from LE. I'm more curious about what was turquoise...it's an odd color, although we all saw with our own eyes Barry in a pink t-shirt :)
I dont personally believe the turquoise clothing was Barry's.

His note (how will we ever forget that!) specified "baby blue" helmet so his constructed narrative was that Suzanne was wearing that, and it has been said I believe that Suzanne tended to match her cycling outfit. So logically, she would have been wearing the matching top when she "disappeared". It couldnt have been left indoors for LE to find.

He could toss the helmet, but he couldnt toss the cycling top. That wasnt likely to be unzipped by a mountain lion, or come off in an accident, even Barry must have seen that. Presumably he didnt want to go to the trouble of dressing her body in it either. He had other fish to fry in the aftermath.

So, the turquoise/"baby blue" clothing was a problem for Barry. And his solution was to take it away from the house, and then bin it. Genius :rolleyes:.

He had to choose the blue helmet - he needed something distinctive, which belonged to Suzanne. As per the photos we've all seen, to back it up his narrative, build his picture.

All JMO.
 
  • #178
Some more impressions of Suzanne's tree... So many thoughtful, beautiful, and very much appreciated ornaments! Thank you again All!

Photos are courtesy of the lovely Kelly.
These photos are uplifting and yet so sad. My heart just breaks for Suzanne. I wish I could’ve been her friend/neighbor and chatted with her about financial/emotional warning signs and helped support her to leave.
 
  • #179
I'm curious about Barry's Thanksgiving plans - I find it galling that he is wandering around,free and accessorised with an anklet, whilst Suzanne never got her freedom.

Who's shot the turkey for their Thanksgiving dinner - presumably he wouldn't buy one - self confessed tightwad that he is?
Are the girls going to be there with him?
Is SD going to be there?

If there's going to be a billboard for Suzanne, I would like to contribute to it.

The memorial tree was beautiful - thank you @NoSI for posting the photographs.

#Justice for Suzanne
 
  • #180
BBM - this makes a whole lot of sense to me. Both McDonald's dumps were small items (two different receptacles, one location.). Maybe the Men's Warehouse dump was his clothes and he took so long making sure there weren't any signs of his crime on the items since there weren't any cameras. Nobody is going to think twice about seeing worn men's clothing in a men's clothing store dumpster (Some shoplifters like to trade their old clothes for new outfits).

I've been pondering what all of the stuff he needed to get rid of was and I'm at a loss. He should have left Suzanne's clothes with her body, but we see him carrying what looks like her biking jacket at the HIE. So was the biking story an afterthought and he gathered those items after he finished hiding her body? Her phone charger could be with the body because he was going to go with the did-a-runner story but didn't at the last minute.

He as much as admitted to dumping the dart and syringe in Broomfield. I believe that Grusing thinks those were what went in the McDs trash. Dart in one, syringes in the other.

We've done a lot of debating about the big plastic container. I think he had it handy and just tossed things into it that he needed to get rid of. At every trash stop he takes at least a couple of minutes to make the dump, sometimes it seems he's sorting as he goes, opening and closing doors multiple times. He trashed the container at the last trash dump when he didn't need it anymore.

Lest we forget Barry's 6th trash dump at the Poncha Market on the 12th. When the mgr saw him digging in the trash Barry wrote the infamous "baby blue bike helmet" note.

This all leaves me wondering what was in the RTD bus stop trash dump. Whatever it was, he wanted to be rid of it first.
I guess in my mind the thought of trash bags has always meant large full 55 gallon bags. Probably not the case. It seems he just wanted to sort and separate the incriminating evidence. It appears he kept a lot of those items inside the cab of his truck.

I do wonder where he disposed of the ice chest/plastic container. Certainly not at the McDonald's or the RTD bus stop. It sounds like the Men's Warehouse was one of his biggest drops.

My question is how he felt confident there were no security cameras on the MW dumpster. He also seemed to know there were no security cameras at some sides of the HIE. Had he cased this out in advance?

JMO, MOO, etc.
 
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