Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #87

[charminglane]

Didn't SM have more than the one journal burnt in the fireplace?
Maybe they were dumped in one of the trips.
After BM read them, of course.

 

[rainbowshummingbird]

I'm curious about Barry's Thanksgiving plans - I find it galling that he is wandering around,free and accessorised with an anklet, whilst Suzanne never got her freedom.

Who's shot the turkey for their Thanksgiving dinner - presumably he wouldn't buy one - self confessed tightwad that he is?
Are the girls going to be there with him?
Is SD going to be there?

If there's going to be a billboard for Suzanne, I would like to contribute to it.

The memorial tree was beautiful - thank you @NoSI for posting the photographs.

#Justice for Suzanne

I wish every person that sees or speaks to Barry would ask him, “Where is Suzanne?”

 

[Megnut]

I guess in my mind the thought of trash bags has always meant large full 55 gallon bags. Probably not the case. It seems he just wanted to sort and separate the incriminating evidence. It appears he kept a lot of those items inside the cab of his truck.

I do wonder where he disposed of the ice chest/plastic container. Certainly not at the McDonald's or the RTD bus stop. It sounds like the Men's Warehouse was one of his biggest drops.

My question is how he felt confident there were no security cameras on the MW dumpster. He also seemed to know there were no security cameras at some sides of the HIE. Had he cased this out in advance?

JMO, MOO, etc.

You raise a powerful point. How'd he know where there weren't cameras? (How'd he get so lucky that the construction cameras at the wall were down? Per Lauren S's research.)

Then recall that the Broomfield job got scheduled and rescheduled several times. End of April as I recall, then the first weekend in May, I think.

Hmmmm.

Was someone perfecting his plan? Ironing out kinks?

Just how many times did he go to Broomfield to scope cameras?

Why the cancels? How many times was Suzanne in the crosshairs and didn't know it?

We know she was in more danger than she realized.

JMO

 

[sk716]

I guess in my mind the thought of trash bags has always meant large full 55 gallon bags. Probably not the case. It seems he just wanted to sort and separate the incriminating evidence. It appears he kept a lot of those items inside the cab of his truck.

I do wonder where he disposed of the ice chest/plastic container. Certainly not at the McDonald's or the RTD bus stop. It sounds like the Men's Warehouse was one of his biggest drops.

My question is how he felt confident there were no security cameras on the MW dumpster. He also seemed to know there were no security cameras at some sides of the HIE. Had he cased this out in advance?

JMO, MOO, etc.

The plastic container went into the dumpster at the HIE on camera.
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[Puzzles8]

You raise a powerful point. How'd he know where there weren't cameras? (How'd he get so lucky that the construction cameras at the wall were down? Per Lauren S's research.)

Then recall that the Broomfield job got scheduled and rescheduled several times. End of April as I recall, then the first weekend in May, I think.

Hmmmm.

Was someone perfecting his plan? Ironing out kinks?

Just how many times did he go to Broomfield to scope cameras?

Why the cancels? How many times was Suzanne in the crosshairs and didn't know it?

We know she was in more danger than she realized.

JMO

He seemed to make the 5 Broomfield dump sites in a very efficient time frame and in a methodical order. IMO, he was not wasting time and randomly looking around for sites, he clearly knew where he was going and where to dump it.

JMO

 

[mom2chloe]

These photos are uplifting and yet so sad. My heart just breaks for Suzanne. I wish I could’ve been her friend/neighbor and chatted with her about financial/emotional warning signs and helped support her to leave.

Perhaps chatting with our female friends and their children regarding financial matters would benefit them immensely. Might not save them but would create a road map for future financial stability and maybe a financial plan to help them escape. So many could benefit from this. IMO

 

[mom2chloe]

I guess in my mind the thought of trash bags has always meant large full 55 gallon bags. Probably not the case. It seems he just wanted to sort and separate the incriminating evidence. It appears he kept a lot of those items inside the cab of his truck.

I do wonder where he disposed of the ice chest/plastic container. Certainly not at the McDonald's or the RTD bus stop. It sounds like the Men's Warehouse was one of his biggest drops.

My question is how he felt confident there were no security cameras on the MW dumpster. He also seemed to know there were no security cameras at some sides of the HIE. Had he cased this out in advance?

JMO, MOO, etc.

I don’t recall that I’ve mentioned before but a lifetime ago I worked Men’s retail specifically big and tall mens. We used to receive suits and sports coats in huge boxes. These boxes would be large enough to hold Suzanne’s body let alone an unexpected trash drop. What was Barry doing for the 40 minutes or so at Men’s Warehouse? IMO
He wasn’t merely procuring new court apparel or was he?

 

[Megnut]

I'd like to take the way back machine and see what was happening in the area of the Men's Wearhouse the weeks around MDW. Dumpsters are visible in current satellite images but I wonder if there were any roll off dumpsters.... from construction, remodeling projects. I just wonder what drew him to that location?

It's just so peculiar, to have an awareness of where dumpsters are and cameras aren't. Who thinks like that?????? Did he drive by a number of other locations that weekend -- or previous scouting weekends -- and reject them?

Didn't Barry say he always does this, his whole life, probably 100%, throw things away in other people's dumpsters? Because he's a cheapskate?

Me, I'm not so interested in whether he'd done it prior. I'd like to know if he's bothered to do it since!

Bet not.

I do wonder if he's taken to pairing airplane mode with sim card removal. And wrapping his ankle in tinfoil.

Bet he hates being tracked.

JMO

 

[mrjitty]

Not really, I did a lot of research into landfills a few threads back. The McDonald's cans were honestly silly, I don't know how he thought those bags were going to end up anywhere but together.

On landfills, even when you have a grid system so that you know where every truck emptied that day the sheer volume of trash makes finding anything not particularly big or solid incredibly difficult. There was a case in CA, I believe, they knew the body went into the garbage truck and knew exactly which square the truck emptied in, but with accumulated layers and smells they couldn't find the body.

Oh I agree the stuff was unlikely to be found

Personally I'd dump the murder stuff with the body, and my own stuff elsewhere. It's interesting in the McStay case, the bodies were not found for 4 years, and that was enough time to "clean up" forensics, even though the likely murder weapon was there. But it would have been really bad if any identifiable item belonging to the killer was found there.

With this case - I agree with you that he was developing his disposal as he went along, which then became overcomplex and created circumstantial evidence against himself.

So he isn't being clever separating it all, because he just ends up linking together lots of dumping sites even if the contents weren't recovered.

 

[FromGermany1]

I wish every person that sees or speaks to Barry would ask him, “Where is Suzanne?”

That's not even embarrassing to him, I believe.

 

[FromGermany1]

I guess in my mind the thought of trash bags has always meant large full 55 gallon bags. Probably not the case. It seems he just wanted to sort and separate the incriminating evidence. It appears he kept a lot of those items inside the cab of his truck.

I do wonder where he disposed of the ice chest/plastic container. Certainly not at the McDonald's or the RTD bus stop. It sounds like the Men's Warehouse was one of his biggest drops.

My question is how he felt confident there were no security cameras on the MW dumpster. He also seemed to know there were no security cameras at some sides of the HIE. Had he cased this out in advance?

JMO, MOO, etc.

Perhaps we also have to remember for a certain time in the future that, in times of reduced plastic packaging material, he still has some plastic bags on hand, if needed.

 

[rainbowshummingbird]

That's not even embarrassing to him, I believe.

I agree that he’s not embarrassed or ashamed for having killed Suzanne, but I do think it would aggravate him if people continue to ask him about his wife. Just as a reminder that the public has never forgotten that he is charged with Suzanne’s murder.

 

[sk716]

I agree that he’s not embarrassed or shamed for having killed Suzanne, but I do think it would aggravate him if people continue to ask him about his wife. Just as a reminder that the public has never forgotten that he is charged with Suzanne’s murder.

And with a decidedly unsympathetic tone.

"Where is Suzanne, Barry?"

 

[sk716]

Didn't SM have more than the one journal burnt in the fireplace?
Maybe they were dumped in one of the trips.
After BM read them, of course.

Her other books were located unmolested. He burned her journal and some file folders and documents. To me this says anything he could have safely burned in the fireplace (or in his grill, he's pretty insistent that he grilled a steak on the 9th) without leaving a tell-tale residue, he did. Obviously the plastic would leave a residue. Polyester is gonna leave a residue ...

Barry must have really loved those freaking shorts to have tossed them in the wash instead of a dumpster.

 

[Scootie98]

Her other books were located unmolested. He burned her journal and some file folders and documents. To me this says anything he could have safely burned in the fireplace (or in his grill, he's pretty insistent that he grilled a steak on the 9th) without leaving a tell-tale residue, he did. Obviously the plastic would leave a residue. Polyester is gonna leave a residue ...

Barry must have really loved those freaking shorts to have tossed them in the wash instead of a dumpster.

I think Barry made a point to burn or delete any and all written or recorded references to divorce, marital strife and knowledge of affairs. Those specific things are footprints which follow him everywhere in the investigation.....and he knows it.

 

[sk716]

Stumbled onto this looking for a different arcGIS map, but thought some of you might like to see the property lines more clearly.

qPublic.net - Chaffee County, CO - Map

 

[sk716]

I think Barry made a point to burn or delete any and all written or recorded references to divorce, marital strife and knowledge of affairs. Those specific things are footprints which follow him everywhere in the investigation.....and he knows it.

Which would indicate that before he tossed the phone he made sure everything on it was unrecoverable. I really wish we had the locations for those last pings.

 

[ontheclock]

It's the kids I feel sorry for. Everyone else had a choice.

 

[10ofRods]

I don’t recall that I’ve mentioned before but a lifetime ago I worked Men’s retail specifically big and tall mens. We used to receive suits and sports coats in huge boxes. These boxes would be large enough to hold Suzanne’s body let alone an unexpected trash drop. What was Barry doing for the 40 minutes or so at Men’s Warehouse? IMO
He wasn’t merely procuring new court apparel or was he?

I believe the store was closed due to COVID.

 

[sk716]

I believe the store was closed due to COVID.

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It was also a Sunday and outside of holiday hours, most strip mall retail opens at noon.

10:47 - 11:18 Barry’s phone was in or beside the lot of Men’s Wearhouse, 160 E Flatiron Crossing Drive, Broomfield, CO. From 10:50 AM to 11:17 AM, the driver and passenger doors of the F-350 were opened and closed at least seven times.

Having spent many years in retail, the MOD wouldn't show up to unlock the doors and fill the tills until about 11:30 am.