Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #88

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MOO MOO BM manic and creepy.
Nothing in SMs behavior is odd or creepy.
They moved to Puma Path, she asked him to home more and instead he joined the VFD, which is a big time commitment in addition to work. Within few months she was reaching out to JL.

VFD, hunting, gym. Excuses to be anywhere but home.

Any of those activities in and of themselves are quite normal and healthy. However, I suspect BM had a fragile sense of masculinity, and he chose “manly” activities to try to prove his manhood. Except - he couldn’t do the mostly manly thing of all - be a good husband to Suzanne. He couldn’t live with the failure, and wouldn’t recognize his contributions, or his own inadequacy.

So he eradicated what he believed caused him to feel inadequate: Suzanne.
 
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Barry rather painted himself into a corner as regards his version for supporters and at trial.

She has to be abducted by persons unknown and the bike staging etc need to be real.

It's all a big mystery

ETA: Not saying it's a factor in this case, but we also know from other trials that people, including jurors will rationalise things to themselves. So they think 'yeah there is probably something fishy here' but we can't quite know what happened.

This is a trial strategy employed in rape cases where research has shown jurors may believe a rape probably happened, but blame the victim to some extent, or feel some sympathy for the accused.

I suspect this strategy might be employed unspoken at trial. e.g. even if BM did it, can the State really prove it was a murder?
 
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Loving No Stone Unturned

It reinforces the difficulty of locating a grave if you have no intelligence of where to look.

And in fact, even if you know the general area, it still doesn't help that much.

We know in this case, Necrosearch was used to investigate some specific sites of interest but it seems like right now, they don't have detailed enough info on where to look.

Barry could have gone quite far on the ATV, other vehicle, or even the bobcat. Without knowing direction of travel it's just too much ground to cover - even with dogs.
 
  • #344
MOO ~ I believe that BM fabricated a story that the girls could grab ahold of with regards to their mothers disappearance.

RSBM - following on from @sk716 's snip from the AA, i do wonder if he has implied there was an accident. Who knows what gets said behind the scenes.
 
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RSBM - following on from @sk716 's snip from the AA, i do wonder if he has implied there was an accident. Who knows what gets said behind the scenes.
If it was an accident, then why wasn't there a proper burial? Wouldn't the girls want that?
 
  • #346
If it was an accident, then why wasn't there a proper burial? Wouldn't the girls want that?
Ita.
Imo, maybe more like Barry told M1 and M2 that Suzanne disappeared of her own volition.
If he told them there was an accident, why hide her ?
Because she is nowhere to be found now.
MOO.
 
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Ita.
Imo, maybe more like Barry told M1 and M2 that Suzanne disappeared of her own volition.
If he told them there was an accident, why hide her ?
Because she is nowhere to be found now.
MOO.

Maybe an accident like Suzanne stepped in the way of a dart meant for a deer.

"And now your mom was having an affair. I didn't know about her affair but they'll accuse me.

As he told investigators “Maybe in God’s eyes this was his way of resolving something,” Morphew told investigators, according to the affidavit. “…I’ve had a very hard time understanding why God did this… But if I would have known this from the beginning, I wouldn’t had to suffer for nine months, not knowing why God did what he did. I’m not saying he did it to punish Suzanne because of her affair, but it makes more sense than what I knew before you guys came today.”

"If one person could be saved" ….that' s where the girls come in, they are helping their mom "save one life" by helping Dad. IMO
 
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VFD, hunting, gym. Excuses to be anywhere but home.

Any of those activities in and of themselves are quite normal and healthy. However, I suspect BM had a fragile sense of masculinity, and he chose “manly” activities to try to prove his manhood. Except - he couldn’t do the mostly manly thing of all - be a good husband to Suzanne. He couldn’t live with the failure, and wouldn’t recognize his contributions, or his own inadequacy.

So he eradicated what he believed caused him to feel inadequate: Suzanne.
BBM

I think you’re spot on with this! Suzanne finding another man and wanting to divorce was a huge blow to his ego. No woman was going to reject him and live to talk about it.
 
  • #349
RSBM - following on from @sk716 's snip from the AA, i do wonder if he has implied there was an accident. Who knows what gets said behind the scenes.
He's likely sticking to the bike ride and the abductor(s) threw the bike into the ravine. LE jumped to the conclusion that Barry did it because he was so confused he didn't know what he was saying. After all, she had a bike and often rode it. Easy-peasy.
Wonder whatever happened to his nephew?
 
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He's likely sticking to the bike ride and the abductor(s) threw the bike into the ravine. LE jumped to the conclusion that Barry did it because he was so confused he didn't know what he was saying. After all, she had a bike and often rode it. Easy-peasy.
Wonder whatever happened to his nephew?
I agree @marylamby. I believe BM told their daughters that bad abductor got Mom while she was out on bike ride. BM was quoted at some point said the reason he moved from PP so soon after SM ‘disappeared’ was because his daughters were ‘afraid’ to continue living there. If he told them some sort of accident happened (which makes absolutely no sense because where is she if some accident had occurred), or that she took off and deserted them, why would they be afraid to still live at PP?, doesn’t make sense to me they’d be scared to still live at PP if they were told she had an accident or that she voluntarily left. Also, the daughters placed a memorial (statue, in memory stone) to SM at the staged bike scene. So yeah, all those things considered, imo adds up to BM telling them SM was abducted off her bike and taken to parts unknown.

I too often wonder what happened to BM’s nephew and family spokesperson for a hot minute early on, TN.
I remember it being reported that BM had quite a few family member and other supporters present at one or more of his PH’s and wondered if TN was one of the family supporters in attendance. Also remember reading that at least one of BM’s Sisters was at one of the PH’s as reportedly, one of his sisters approached reporter LS and accused her of being responsible for ruining their family, something to that affect. I’ve always wondered if that was the Sister who is TN’s Mother. Anyway, it’s interesting haven’t heard much about or from TN since early on. He seemed to drop out of the picture quickly after being vocal in the very early days, which to me, is both very interesting and intriguing.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
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I agree @marylamby. I believe BM told their daughters that bad abductor got Mom on her bike ride. BM was quoted at some point early on said the reason he moved from PP so soon after SM ‘disappeared’ was because his daughters were ‘afraid’ to continue living there. If he told them some sort of accident happened (which makes absolutely no sense because where is she if some accident had occurred), or that she took off and deserted them, why would they be afraid to still live at PP?, doesn’t make sense to me they’d if they were told she had an accident or voluntarily left that they’d be scared to still live at PP. Also, the daughters placed memorial (statue, in memory
stone) to SM at the staged bike scene, so yeah all those things considered, imo add up to BM telling them she was abducted and taken to parts unknown.

I too often wonder what happened to BM nephew and family spokesperson for a hot minute early on, TN.
I remember it being reported that BM had quite a few family member and other supporters present at one or more of his PH’s and wondered if TN was one of the family supporters in attendance. I remember reading that at least one of BM Sisters was at PH as reportedly, one of his sisters approached reporter LS and accused LS of ruining their family, something to that affect. I’ve always wondered if that was the Sister who is TN’s Mother. Anyway, haven’t heard much about or from TN since early on, which very interesting he seemed to drop out of the picture after being vocal in the early days.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
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And of course, BM was not there so he really has no idea what really happened. Other than a mountain lion may have attacked her. IMO
 
  • #353
I agree @marylamby. I believe BM told their daughters that bad abductor got Mom while she was out on bike ride. BM was quoted at some point said the reason he moved from PP so soon after SM ‘disappeared’ was because his daughters were ‘afraid’ to continue living there. If he told them some sort of accident happened (which makes absolutely no sense because where is she if some accident had occurred), or that she took off and deserted them, why would they be afraid to still live at PP?, doesn’t make sense to me they’d be scared to still live at PP if they were told she had an accident or that she voluntarily left. Also, the daughters placed a memorial (statue, in memory
stone) to SM at the staged bike scene. So yeah, all those things considered, imo adds up to BM telling them SM was abducted off her bike and taken to parts unknown.

I too often wonder what happened to BM’s nephew and family spokesperson for a hot minute early on, TN.
I remember it being reported that BM had quite a few family member and other supporters present at one or more of his PH’s and wondered if TN was one of the family supporters in attendance. remember reading that at least one of BM’s Sisters was at PH as reportedly, one of his sisters approached reporter LS and accused her of being responsible for ruining their family, something to that affect. I’ve always wondered if that was the Sister who is TN’s Mother. Anyway, it’s interesting haven’t heard much about or from TN since early on. He seemed to drop out of the picture quickly after being vocal in the very early days, which is intriguing.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
He had a business to run and when people went crazy digging into his life and cyber stalking him he did what anyone would do and that is lock down and shut up. I am sure he granted LE an interview. But people these days think it is perfectly ok to stalk people and post on their business pages and anything that is publicly accessible. It is not and clearly he has nothing to say publicly. Barry is a public figure and unfortunately so is Suzanne now but really no one else is. And both families learned that lesson pretty quickly fortunately.
 
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I agree @marylamby. I believe BM told their daughters that bad abductor got Mom while she was out on bike ride. BM was quoted at some point said the reason he moved from PP so soon after SM ‘disappeared’ was because his daughters were ‘afraid’ to continue living there. If he told them some sort of accident happened (which makes absolutely no sense because where is she if some accident had occurred), or that she took off and deserted them, why would they be afraid to still live at PP?, doesn’t make sense to me they’d be scared to still live at PP if they were told she had an accident or that she voluntarily left. Also, the daughters placed a memorial (statue, in memory
stone) to SM at the staged bike scene. So yeah, all those things considered, imo adds up to BM telling them SM was abducted off her bike and taken to parts unknown.

I too often wonder what happened to BM’s nephew and family spokesperson for a hot minute early on, TN.
I remember it being reported that BM had quite a few family member and other supporters present at one or more of his PH’s and wondered if TN was one of the family supporters in attendance. remember reading that at least one of BM’s Sisters was at PH as reportedly, one of his sisters approached reporter LS and accused her of being responsible for ruining their family, something to that affect. I’ve always wondered if that was the Sister who is TN’s Mother. Anyway, it’s interesting haven’t heard much about or from TN since early on. He seemed to drop out of the picture quickly after being vocal in the very early days, which is intriguing.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
And yet, oddly enough, where is he residing now? A stone's throw from the PP home. Strange, that is.
Is M2 living with him there? M1 has to be on Xmas/Holiday break too. Not sure if she's graduated by now or not.
I remember that his nephew was at one of the PHs. I didn't, however, take note if he was with someone (BMs sister?) or not or if he left with that person. He sure did go poof early on, relinquishing the G*M and spokesperson role, which was curious. He was beckoned by BM to get to the bike site on 5/10, along with a friend of BM's. THE BIKE! :p

eta: His sister accosting LS was both vulgar and insane. For what? Doing her job by investigating the disappearance of her SISTER-IN-LAW? I'm guessing she just didn't like where the investigation led. I'm also guessing there was no love lost from her point of view and we're all guilty of ruining their lives. We all should've just let it go. :rolleyes:
 
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He had a business to run and when people went crazy digging into his life and cyber stalking him he did what anyone would do and that is lock down and shut up. I am sure he granted LE an interview. But people these days think it is perfectly ok to stalk people and post on their business pages and anything that is publicly accessible. It is not and clearly he has nothing to say publicly. Barry is a public figure and unfortunately so is Suzanne now but really no one else is. And both families learned that lesson pretty quickly fortunately.
I'm unaware of any harassment he suffered. Checking out his website isn't 'stalking' and I don't recall the ability to comment on said business site.
Both families? What, did people call them? Personally write them? I'm also unaware of any social media or websites associated with any family member other than the one noted above. Please be more specific.
 
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He had a business to run and when people went crazy digging into his life and cyber stalking him he did what anyone would do and that is lock down and shut up. I am sure he granted LE an interview. But people these days think it is perfectly ok to stalk people and post on their business pages and anything that is publicly accessible. It is not and clearly he has nothing to say publicly. Barry is a public figure and unfortunately so is Suzanne now but really no one else is. And both families learned that lesson pretty quickly fortunately.
RBBM
I realize your use of the phrase “people these days think it’s perfectly ok” to do those things is likely generalized, but I can assure you that I’m NOT one of those people.
I’m not on any social media and only follow cases here on WS and approved sources posted here. I work for a living and all I have time to do is follow cases here and have no idea about people stalking TN or posting on his business page or whatever, nor was I suggesting that is something I think is ok to do. I was only stating my genuine curiosity and intrigue about TN being vocal supporter of BM in MSM and voicing his desire to help finding his sweet Aunt Suzanne early on, and wondering ‘out loud’ if he is still supportive of BM. That is all.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
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RBBM
I realize your use of the phrase “people these days think it’s perfectly ok” to do those things is likely generalized, but I can assure you that I’m NOT one of those people.
I have no idea about people stalking TN or posting on his business page or whatever, nor was I suggesting that is something I think is ok to do. I’m not on any social media and only follow cases here on WS and approved sources posted here. I work for a living and all I have time to do is follow cases here. I was only stating my genuine curiosity and intrigue about TN being MSM vocal supporter of BM and his desire to help finding his sweet Aunt Suzanne early on, and wondering out loud if he is still supportive of BM. That is all.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
There's no need to defend yourself. If one chooses to be more specific with her accusations, more clarity would be welcome. I don't recall anyone, anywhere ever stating that the families were stalked or harassed or anything of the kind.
 
  • #358
Murphy has proven to be cautious. Most Judges don't want to see their cases overturned, some work very hard to ensure there aren't any wide open paths. If Murphy stays on the case, it's an automatic appeal. So far he has toed the letter of Colorado law, I expect him to continue to do so.

We used to have an Atty General who was insanely nit-picky about the wording of whatever ballot measure/etc you wanted to submit. Seriously down to the word tense or comma placement, would send it back. He didn't want to have to defend it in court, so he demanded absolute clarity of language in all submissions. As long as the language was clear, he would approve it for the next step.
In my head I keep going back and forth with this.

On the one hand, you're right that Murphy works very hard to assure there are no easy avenues for appeal. If that's his overriding priority, he'll do what he did in SD's trespassing case and recuse himself and ask Chief Justice Boatright to appoint another murder-qualified judge.

But if he does that, he gives up an important value - community control over decisions involving and affecting its members. He has been elected by the community, who entrusted him to oversee the justice process for Chafee County residents. How will they feel if he relinquishes that role? More important, how important is that role to him?

And I have racked my brain in an effort to come up with a way that a pro-defense bias or a pro-SD bias - which are the only biases that arise from his relationship with defense counsel - could result in harm to BM's rights. Nothing occurs to me. If there's no potential harm to BM's rights, to me there's no appealable issue for him.

Murphy has given mixed signals to those of us who read tea leaves in an effort to prognosticate about this. He said, upon hearing that SD would likely be called as a witness in BM's trial, "That's all I need to know." - signaling that this fact would decide the case in favor of the motion to recuse. But in his written decision, he disagreed with the defense's argument that the mere filling of the motion compelled him to remove himself, and he described BM's argument as "novel" - suggesting that he might reject it, too.

Whatever else he might be, Judge Murphy is his own man. I am glad he has given himself time to study the law and weigh his options.

I wonder if judges have independent ethics counsel with whom they can discuss these issues? Does anyone know?
 
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I'm unaware of any harassment he suffered. Checking out his website isn't 'stalking' and I don't recall the ability to comment on said business site.
Both families? What, did people call them? Personally write them? I'm also unaware of any social media or websites associated with any family member other than the one noted above. Please be more specific.
Don’t you have any sympathy for downtrodden, persecuted Barry? lol
 
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