Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #89

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  • #421
I don't think he took the Bobcat off the trailer until after 3 am. Cadaverine needed time to build up... and that could be as much as 12 hours.

His boots went into the hotel.

I think Barry probably stripped down in the driveway, boots and all, and those clothes later met a dumpster in Broomfield.

JMO

He does not have a jack. He cannot take the trailer off of the truck hitch without the Bobcat. The trailer won't go into the garage.
 
  • #422
This is what I am getting into, and I think this evidence at trial will be vastly more detailed with expert witnesses.

Based on the thin info we have, it seems BM leaves PP at 3.58 but the SMs phone won't go dark for another 25 mins. So that would tend to imply he had it with him as we don't seem to have a suggestion that he went back. Or did he?

If I am the defence it seems one of my best arguments based on the AA is that according to the prosecution, BM had left and driven west, yet the phone switched off at or close to PP - so it must have been SM or "the real killer" who turned it off.



what do you mean by this?

He does go back. He stages the bike without his truck and goes back to the house.
 
  • #423
This is odd ...

(Barry Morphew Interview – March 5, 2021 – Part 2)

When asked if Suzanne told him she befriended these people, he said no and then said, “But I have her phone. She gave me full access to her phone. She gave me the passcode- I mean, do you guys have her phone? Do you have her phone?”
Personally I think he is lying about all this. I think he took the phone with him on the bike run, eventually turns it off, and its in a dumpster.

What I am not sure about it is how to explain the last phone ping when it shakes hands and leaves the network.

Where was BM when he did this? As presumably he already had left PP at 3.58

Barry doesn't leave the neighborhood until his phone goes in airplane mode at 4:32
 
  • #424
He does not have a jack. He cannot take the trailer off of the truck hitch without the Bobcat. The trailer won't go into the garage.

I think he pulled into the garage with the trailer trailing.

I think he called an audible in the morning, deciding not to bring the Bobcat, which IMO would have been counter practice.

If he detrailered it on Saturday, there wouldn't have been cadaverine (yet) to transfer.

He knew the Bobcat was necessary for the wall (even for appearances) but chose to leave it home. Why?

Theory 1: too identifiable for his planned trash runs

Theory 2: whereever he went, upon turning left, wouldn't accommodate the trailer.

I find it most remarkable that, once he fired up the truck, he apparently didn't exit it until Trash Stop #1.

14 miles and 30 some minutes between the Monarch camera he never reached and the Poncha Springs camera....

Did he lay a trail? Helmet, fabric, more fabric, phone?

I think Barry was passing PP very close to 4:23. Taking his phone out of airplane mode essentially as he passed PP, akin to setting his trip meter at his recorded start. 4:32. Not far off really from his 5 am start time.

I still think there's way more to those 14 miles than the helmet.

JMO
 
  • #425
Exactly. The argument being made is basically: "there are too many events, therefore it's wrong and there are no events."

One event is one too many, and Barry's phone corroborates this.

He was sleeping...
I don’t think it is that simple as data is wrong… it is just not currently tied up with a pretty bow in a simplistic manner and irrefutable.
 
  • #426
I am slowly re-reading the AA. Suzanne asked Barry to take her bike and helmet out of her Range Rover sometime on Saturday, according to Barry. What a coincidence. JL and Suzanne communicated 59 times on May 9th. Suzanne told JL she would be available on WhatsApp, and within a few minutes Barry arrived at PP. Suzanne was never heard from again. What a coincidence.
 
  • #427
It begs the question --

Why did Barry have to turn left at all?

Was the bike such an afterthought that he didn't even think of the helmet until sometime after 3 am? Why didn't he stage all that stuff while his phone was parked and while availing himself of the secondary vehicle he might've used overnight?

Did he realize he'd made a mistake which required the detour? Necessitating the airplane mode?

Was it her phone?

It was critical or he wouldn't have chanced it IMO.

JMO
 
  • #428
It begs the question --

Why did Barry have to turn left at all?

Was the bike such an afterthought that he didn't even think of the helmet until sometime after 3 am? Why didn't he stage all that stuff while his phone was parked and while availing himself of the secondary vehicle he might've used overnight?

Did he realize he'd made a mistake which required the detour? Necessitating the airplane mode?

Was it her phone?

It was critical or he wouldn't have chanced it IMO.

JMO
He said he turned left to follow elk. It is not a leap to assume some things he said were truthful, some things were snarky and somethings were lies. I think that is why defense wants the entire conversations played for the jury. The context is missing from the AA so defense wants the jury to hear the entire conversations.
 
  • #429
He said he turned left to follow elk. It is not a leap to assume some things he said were truthful, some things were snarky and somethings were lies. I think that is why defense wants the entire conversations played for the jury. The context is missing from the AA so defense wants the jury to hear the entire conversations.
Yes. He turned left in the pitch dark to follow a herd of elk to see if he could get their horns.

So pitch dark, elk that don't herd that time of year, and elk that don't shed that time of year.

And of course the helmet was found right there.

To me, this is another massive, unequivocal lie.

Can you not see it?
 
  • #430
It is a touch unbelievable so I am planning on hearing someone for prosecution explain how it is possible and someone from defense to explain how it is possible or we won’t hear about it at all because neither side can explain why telematics would indicate a door opening and shutting once a minute for over an hour.
He was there an awful long time. Many truck events as I recall.

If he had another phone, perhaps he was on it.

Maybe he was listening to a favorite true crime podcast.

He had to know Suzanne's phone was a HUGE problem.

JMO
I think he hurled that problem from the truck off a cliff fr
Barry doesn't leave the neighborhood until his phone goes in airplane mode at 4:32
Interesting.
Works if he got rid of the phone the same time as the bike at 3:58 using the old RR, came back and realized the helmet was still at the house.

MOO he may have just allowed SMs phone to go out of charge rather than doing something to it.
I do think he accidently made a brief outgoing call messing with it earlier.
 
  • #431
Should we start a list of truths told?

I'll go first.

1. He said he loved her to death.

I'm struggling to find 2.

JMO
 
  • #432
Let me rephrase, the FBI believes the phone was on or very near the PP property when it last pinged. Mostly because Barry's phone doesn't go back into airplane mode for another 10 minutes.

May 10, 03:58 – Barry’s phone moves from home to near where Suzanne’s bike found
3:58 am BM cell moves from home to near 225/50 where bike found

May 10, 04:10 – 04:23 – Last Activity from Suzanne’s iPhone
Sergeant Mullenax asked dispatch to ping the number given for Suzanne’s cell phone. Dispatch informed Mullenax that the cell phone appeared to be off and last known activity was at 4:23AM on the present date, with a general location about 11.5 miles west of a cell tower in Poncha Springs, CO.

May 10, 04:32 – Barry’s Phone Goes Back into Airplane Mode
Barry's Phone Goes Back into Airplane Mode

The phone is underwater imo, think that's why there was that reported sighting from TD of Barry looking wet and climbing up from the creek - maybe he dropped it there by accident and went hunting for it or he went there checking to see if it had been found by LE because he staged it. Was that sighting by TD around the same day the helmet was found?

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  • #433
The phone is underwater imo, think that's why there was that reported sighting from TD of Barry looking wet and climbing up from the creek - maybe he dropped it there by accident and went hunting for it or he went there checking to see if it had been found by LE because he staged it. Was that sighting by TD around the same day the helmet was found?

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3 weeks later, as I recall.

JMO
 
  • #434
Yes. He turned left in the pitch dark to follow a herd of elk to see if he could get their horns.

So pitch dark, elk that don't herd that time of year, and elk that don't shed that time of year.

And of course the helmet was found right there.

To me, this is another massive, unequivocal lie.

Can you not see it?
I thought he was watching their path. If you are a shed hunter and you know the general path it can be revisited during shed. In the woods the animals have a literal highway…they follow the same paths through generations. I get that you have made up your mind and no one is going to get you to see anything outside of your beliefs. It is fine and it doesn’t bother me.
 
  • #435
What was Barry's second question? Did you find the phone?

(His first question was about The Bike as I recall. The question he never asked is if they found The Wife. No need to ask because he knew they didn't and couldn't IMO.)

Was he playing coy about the phone? Did he destroy it? Did he throw it in an animal den? Knowing they'd track it?

It's beginning to look like he took it on his Garfield detour. Had he turned it off? Wanted to turn it back on wherever he planned to leave it but forgot?

Perplexing. I rather figured her phone got itself in the creek. By the bike. At the same time.

I have to believe he destroyed it first.

Pristine bike. Pristine helmet. Smashed phone.

Go figure.

JMO
IMO Barry seemed genuinely shocked that LE did not have Suzanne’s phone. His texts to the phone while she was missing were intended as proof that he was a grieving husband, who couldn’t possibly be involved in her disappearance.

IMO there was something else on that phone that Barry wanted/needed LE to discover. Suzanne’s affair with JL? Sinister evidence he manufactured and planted?
 
  • #436
I thought he was watching their path. If you are a shed hunter and you know the general path it can be revisited during shed. In the woods the animals have a literal highway…they follow the same paths through generations. I get that you have made up your mind and no one is going to get you to see anything outside of your beliefs. It is fine and it doesn’t bother me.
If Barry turned to follow a bull elk, regardless of it not being shed season, well okay, I will follow along. But Barry only remembered turning and following said elk when confronted with data that contradicted his story. That’s where I have the problem. Every time LE showed Barry that things could not have happened the way he said, he altered his statements to match the information he was presented with.
 
  • #437
IMO Barry seemed genuinely shocked that LE did not have Suzanne’s phone. His texts to the phone while she was missing were intended as proof that he was a grieving husband, who couldn’t possibly be involved in her disappearance.

IMO there was something else on that phone that Barry wanted/needed LE to discover. Suzanne’s affair with JL? Sinister evidence he manufactured and planted?
I agree. Even without hearing the entire conversation it did come off that he assumed they had the phone which is interesting. Part of me thinks he did not dump the phone so we wait for trial.
 
  • #438
If Barry turned to follow a bull elk, regardless of it not being shed season, well okay, I will follow along. But Barry only remembered turning and following said elk when confronted with data that contradicted his story. That’s where I have the problem. Every time LE showed Barry that things could not have happened the way he said, he altered his statements to match the information he was presented with.
Yup. Grusing bluffed, Barry bit, and he concocted a ridiculous story with yet another animal.

Too dark to see, Elk that don't herd, Elk that don't shed that time of year, and that's precisely the direction of the helmet.

This ain't complicated.
 
  • #439
I thought he was watching their path. If you are a shed hunter and you know the general path it can be revisited during shed. In the woods the animals have a literal highway…they follow the same paths through generations. I get that you have made up your mind and no one is going to get you to see anything outside of your beliefs. It is fine and it doesn’t bother me.

Correct. One of the rare cases where I would bet my life on someone's guilt. No one will convince me otherwise because the evidence is absolutely overwhelming.
 
  • #440
Here's Judge Murphy's take on some of the evidence. I just love the reasoning:

Judge said finding out that #SuzanneMorphew was having an affair gives him motive. Feeling of hurt, anger, jealousy, and desperation. It could lead someone who is typically normal to act differently like harm someone who has harmed him.

Judge said the "I'm done" text means that she was done with the marriage and the "Let's just do this civilly," meaning dissolution of marriage. The text to Jeff Libler said that "these next few days are going to be rough" shows that #SuzanneMorphew wanted out of the marriage.

The judge is going over the evidence. Speaking about the doorframe photo that showed force entry. Text messages saying #SuzanneMorphew didn't feel safe alone with #BarryMorphew and said he was unstable. Showing that Morphew was capable of harming Suzanne.

Morning of May 10: several activities from #BarryMorphew truck with door opening and closing before 4 a.m. From 3:58-4:07 a.m. Truck moved toward the highway where #SuzanneMorphew was found. The judge is saying this evidence is relevant to the prosecution.

The judge is talking about the reason why #BarryMorphew would be in that area where #SuzanneMorphew bike helmet was found. His reasoning antlers and seeing a bull elk. "Court can confirm that Morphew disposed of the helmet. He had no legitimate reason to be in that area."

JUDGE: "Why did someone who calls their wife his angel, Why would you leave her alone? Why would you drive to Broomfield, where you know you can’t work? Why would you sit in a hotel room for five hours? Something happened to alter those plans.

The court believes that it was because something happened to Ms. Morphew. The judge said the court is in favor of the People for counts 1 and 2: First-degree murder and tampering with a deceased body. #BarryMorphew

https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1438971183962132482?s=21
 
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