Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #89

[sk716]

Aside from the sunglasses, I'm curious about the items on the front seat of the Range Rover. Didn't they use the Range Rover for Moonlight pizza Friday night including eating pizza in the Range Rover? I find it odd that the Camelback and the other items would have found their way to the front seat after pizza. Did Barry sit in the back seat during this outing? Suzanne's bike would've been in the far back at this time also, right?

IMO

I don't think Suzanne did go to Moonlight Pizza. I think Barry must have done a P/U order. The AA is never really clear on the point. In some places it says Suzanne last left the house on Thursday when she took her bike for new tires. In another place it says she's sending pics of Barry at Moonlight Pizza. I'm combing through the PH and it's not clearing it up so far.

 

[Quiet Time]

Whoa.
Those scratches.
I'd say THOSE were the last messages Suzanne ever sent.
She couldn't stop it but she could identify her killer. With all the strength she had left.

You can almost hear her say, "Please stop."

JMO

Agreed.
And, I was thinking how scared she must have been as he was breaking down the door. I wonder what, if anything he was yelling at her while doing it.

jmo

 

[Seattle1]

That is my understanding…that prosecution had more information on the dna and potentially other info prior to the preliminary but delivered some late and withheld some things from defense until after and yes it is one of the motions. I think this is the issue that caused the subpoena of Jeff Lindsay and is part of the intent to sue letter. I also think this is why an appeals attorney specialist was brought onto the team so early. Defense is certainly convinced something is amuck or was amuck in the DAs office. So these motions hearings should be of great interest.

^^bbm
E & N have a reputation for pursuing any technical angle and this is a good example -- fact is they pounced here to try out a new law in Colorado that came about in the wave of George Floyd and not on the strength of their evidence. The pending defensive motions for alleged discovery violations will reveal nothing amuck. MOO

ETA: add link for citizen and civil rights law

https://www.kxlf.com/news/national/an-inside-look-at-colorados-year-old-qualified-immunity-ban

 

[genuineusa77]

But the DNA was found in the victims car. How did it get there? Unless perhaps she brought her vehicle to a full service car wash, that might explain it, or unless there is a police report of a theft from her vehicle, that might explain it. But the touch DNA--how likely is it that she touched something that the sex criminal touched, and then transferred it to her glove box?

I'd say the inside of her entire car should be checked for his DNA, including the keys.

 

[crhedBngr]

But the DNA was found in the victims car. How did it get there? Unless perhaps she brought her vehicle to a full service car wash, that might explain it, or unless there is a police report of a theft from her vehicle, that might explain it. But the touch DNA--how likely is it that she touched something that the sex criminal touched, and then transferred it to her glove box?

My opinion only . . .

Barry would never wash any of the family's vehicles. Takes too much time away from his gym-rat routine and hunting pursuits. Besides, appearances are very important to Barry. The expensive vehicles, huge house, beautiful wife and daughters were (and are) all part of his image.

So, yes, I strongly feel the vehicles were taken to full-service garages.

The interior of vehicles would be vacuumed, and the dashboard, steering wheel and glove box wiped. I suspect the technician detailing the vehicle's inside was the sex criminal in question.

 

[sk716]

I believe Suzanne had a bike rack.

IMO Suzanne was preparing to go on a bike ride. Her regular, daily, afternoon bike ride. On Saturday.

I'd love to know her Camelback habits.

We know she drove to her starting points.

When did she typically fill, empty, clean her Camelback? Where did she keep it between rides? In the car? In the house?

Did she keep all her stuff on her passenger seat? Or was it arranged in the console?

Were the chlorine bottles in the car because they were going to refill them at the spa store in conjunction with the pizza run? But it was closed? Hence the ask/request on Saturday morning?

Crime scene photos will fill in a lot of unknowns.

JMO

On the filling of the Camelbak, many of these trails have water at the trailheads so they can fill up.

 

[Seattle1]

I don't think Suzanne did go to Moonlight Pizza. I think Barry must have done a P/U order. The AA is never really clear on the point. In some places it says Suzanne last left the house on Thursday when she took her bike for new tires. In another place it says she's sending pics of Barry at Moonlight Pizza. I'm combing through the PH and it's not clearing it up so far.

I recall this in the PH-- during BM interview he alleges SM met him in town and he got in the RR to ride with her to Moonlight Pizza. MOO

ETA: AA pg 24/131

 

[MrsWatson]

It's in the PH-- during BM interview he alleges SM met him in town and he got in the RR to ride with her to Moonlight Pizza. MOO

In that case, maybe it was someone BM was in contact with and he transferred the touch DNA to the glove box. I think it's much more likely BM knew sketchy characters than Suzanne.

Unless, BM is one of those guys who doesn't let his wife drive even if it's her own truck.

MOO

 

[sk716]

I recall this in the PH-- during BM interview he alleges SM met him in town and he got in the RR to ride with her to Moonlight Pizza. MOO

Right, but all of that stuff was in the passenger seat in the garage. Barry's not sitting in the back and we know she didn't go anywhere on Saturday.

We've really only got Barry's words and he's the least reliable witness in Colorado. I'm trying to find if there is discussion of Suzanne's phone during this time.

 

[Megnut]

My opinion only . . .

Barry would never wash any of the family's vehicles. Takes too much time away from his gym-rat routine and hunting pursuits. Besides, appearances are very important to Barry. The expensive vehicles, huge house, beautiful wife and daughters were (and are) all part of his image.

So, yes, I strongly feel the vehicles were taken to full-service garages.

The interior of vehicles would be vacuumed, and the dashboard, steering wheel and glove box wiped. I suspect the technician detailing the vehicle's inside was the sex criminal in question.

It's more indirect than even that. Likely a service or car wash provider, the one whose DNA was left in Suzanne's car, is related to someone with a criminal past. The criminal's DNA is in the database. The DNA of the attendant/ mechanic/ passenger handling Suzanne's car is not. Neither of those people, nor the countless other potential partial matches, had means or motive.

The point remains, there's a logical explanation for DNA on the glovebox of Suzanne's RR. And there's no reason to believe it occurred in relation to the events of MDW.

What remains is a growing span of time with Suzanne silent across all digital media, beginning with Barry's arrival at PP, where he places himself, running around the house, firing a .22.

He said that. We didn't.

JMO

 

[MrsWatson]

I'd say the inside of her entire car should be checked for his DNA, including the keys.

I'm pretty confident that Suzanne's entire vehicle and home were thoroughly checked forensically. They were there for several days, IIRC. What makes you think her vehicle wasn't checked?

 

[Megnut]

Right, but all of that stuff was in the passenger seat in the garage. Barry's not sitting in the back and we know she didn't go anywhere on Saturday.

We've really only got Barry's words and he's the least reliable witness in Colorado. I'm trying to find if there is discussion of Suzanne's phone during this time.

All we have is the supposition that Suzanne took the photo outside Moonlit Pizza and texted it to her daughter.

It isn't clear to me if Barry was ever in her car. It seems like they may have met up there, then drove to look at the Longhorn property, still in separate vehicles. Before Suzanne went home and Barry went to the beach site.

We really only have Barry saying he rode with her, right? Might be nothing but an unnecessary Bsplain -- nobody would be surprised to find a spouse's DNA in the opposite spouse's vehicle.

I wonder though where they sat then to eat the pizza.

Do we know anything?????

JMO

 

[Boxer]

So I just tried an experiment. My cousin and her boyfriend were here to watch football, and after the game I convinced them to watch 48 Hours with me, and said I wanted their opinion of this case.

This couple are both in early 60's and are perfect examples of typical jurors. He is a retired businessman/store owner, she's a retired high school teacher. She taught Social Studies so she was very into this experiment. Joe was less enthusiastic but did go along with it and he did watch the show and had valid feedback.

Unfortunately, at the end, they both agreed that Barry was loathsome, but they were leaning towards 'reasonable doubt' ----mainly because of 2 issues. The DNA in the glove box AND the possibility she ran off.

I was very surprised they believed she may have voluntarily left---but they felt that Barry was such a jerk and the girls were grown, AND Barry seemed so close to 'his girls' ---they wondered if she felt left out and went to start a new life. It surprised me because I never thought a reasonable person would believe that---but these 2 people are intelligent and reasonable.

The DNA---I understand why that threw them a bit. The way the show depicted it, does make it appear as though a level 3 sex offender was in her passenger seat. HOPEFULLY the prosecution can clarify that for the real jury.

We did have Pizza and a few beers, so that might have affected their decisions...

I did see other another news channel picked up the case from 48 Hours with the headline:
Suzanne Morphew mystery: Was a missing Colorado mother murdered or abducted?

So the show introduced a lot of doubt and did not do their due diligence of understating the forensic and police meaning of "partial match" which is synonymous with "excludes."

 

[Boxer]

I don't think Suzanne did go to Moonlight Pizza. I think Barry must have done a P/U order. The AA is never really clear on the point. In some places it says Suzanne last left the house on Thursday when she took her bike for new tires. In another place it says she's sending pics of Barry at Moonlight Pizza. I'm combing through the PH and it's not clearing it up so far.

Agree she did not go to get Pizza.

 

[Boxer]

Dbm

 

[Seattle1]

Right, but all of that stuff was in the passenger seat in the garage. Barry's not sitting in the back and we know she didn't go anywhere on Saturday.

We've really only got Barry's words and he's the least reliable witness in Colorado. I'm trying to find if there is discussion of Suzanne's phone during this time.

But didn't police reports also state that the camelback was hung on the back of the seat (and not on the passenger seat)? We may not be looking at the first photos.

ETA: AA pg 11/131. I was recalling from AA that various items from the RR were spread on butcher paper and photographed. AA confirms the camelbak was located on the seat.

 

[justtrish]

That's what I was referring to. He said in one of your screenshots that he had not used tranquilizer in Colorado, then ultimately made up that tranquilizing 2 deer thing that he told Grusing.

When do deer lose their antlers? If he admitted to shooting 2 in April and the antlers are off by this point, then what is the purpose of tranquillizing them at that point?

His downfall may be picking the wrong time to pull off his evil plan. Maybe November would have been a better time.

 

[Boxer]

I don't think Suzanne did go to Moonlight Pizza. I think Barry must have done a P/U order. The AA is never really clear on the point. In some places it says Suzanne last left the house on Thursday when she took her bike for new tires. In another place it says she's sending pics of Barry at Moonlight Pizza. I'm combing through the PH and it's not clearing it up so far.

IIRC
The car was sold and sunglasses found later by the new owner.

 

[justtrish]

Partial Matches
Overview
A partial match occurs when a Combined DNA Index System (CODIS) search is conducted and the results clearly show that the offender profile is not the source of the crime scene profile (also referred to as a forensic profile), but the possibility does exist that a close biological relative of the offender might be the source of the crime scene profile.1
Partial Matches • Overview


So the glove compartment sample is a full sample, and is the "forensic sample" and its NOT a match to the sex offender, the man that touched the glove compartment is a relative of the sex offender, and is not in CODIS.

Confusing the jury is one of the defense's
main strategies.

Which could be any person in America that has a family member that has committed a crime! Geez, it's so crazy that this was allowed to be introduced in a confusing way. I sure hope at trial this can be explained very quickly and get it off the table as the narrative that some sex offender had ever been in her car.

 

[Boxer]

Yes they did insinuate that it was planted and then prosecution countered with “he might have dropped it” but did not document. I always thought it was very small but if it was several inches long I struggle why they didn’t find it during the first search of the dryer. If prosecution sticks to the dart theory they will need to get on top of these two questions during cross.

I assume it was found in the vent leading to the lint trap. Too heavy to make it to the actual trap area.

The deputy that missed Chandler Haldersons rifle in a leaning stack of wood and the deputy who searched the dryer and missed the cap need to go back to investigating school.
Wall to wall search means every topographic inch between the walls.