Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #90

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  • #661
Barry can use the old I was snowed in excuse. Also, we womenfolk here are all quite capable of driving through the mountains here even without monster trucks. Goes with the territory. Our daughters and sons can as well, in fact mountain, snowstorm driving is taught in driver’s education in high school.
Gotta find Suzanne.
That’s so interesting to know, thank you for the local insight.
 
  • #662
^^rsbm


I've not dismissed the idea that BM could have received help disposing of SM's body by an individual who knowing BM, had no reason not to believe he was helping BM dispose of a carcass he poached for its rack. I can see BM concocting a tale in his head about this -- a tale he thought he could sell to Agent Grusing, his trusted acquaintance.

Given BM is most confident when talking about work and hunting especially, I can definitely see BM wanting to get ahead of this if he thought the individual might talk to LE. For example, what if BM asked to borrow their vehicle to deliver the carcass to somebody else?

What if BM did in fact deliver SM's body in a borrowed vehicle to somebody he hired to get rid of her body?

Also, do we know if the Cushman's were in town on May 9-10? Could BM have used a garaged vehicle from the Cushman's?
Seattle, if someone loaned a vehicle to BM on the night in question or if they believed they were hauling a carcass away, don’t you think they would have told LE about it? I mean they have had plenty of time to figure out that BM used them.
 
  • #663
Barry can use the old I was snowed in excuse. Also, we womenfolk here are all quite capable of driving through the mountains here even without monster trucks. Goes with the territory. Our daughters and sons can as well, in fact mountain, snowstorm driving is taught in driver’s education in high school.
Gotta find Suzanne.
Sorr
That’s so interesting to know, thank you for the local insight.
Any time i can contribute! I am such awe of all of you.
 
  • #664
Exactly. There are two parts to this:

The behavioral stuff that makes no sense for a sexual predator to do.

All the things that point precisely at Barry.

You cannot introduce a third party without making it laughable, and you cannot separate Barry even if you could do that.

That DNA is useless, misleading, irrelevant garbage.
You and I and most everyone here know that DNA is meaningless. I’m not so sure about a jury. Most jurors will likely be familiar with only the bare basics of DNA. When the defense starts throwing the word “match” around in every other question or statement, I’m not so sure that some won’t buy into what the defense is trying to sell. It only takes one stubborn juror to deadlock the jury.

I hope the State will be absolutely ready to defend their position with the DNA and all of the evidence. This is a sharp Defense team. The State really needs to anticipate the Defense tearing their evidence apart up, down and sideways. Their performance at this latest hearing has me a bit uneasy.
 
  • #665
The judge ruled yesterday that his voting for Suzanne will not be brought in as evidence .

I think it is important to note also that according to Lauren Scharf's recap from court yesterday he signed on the witness/guardian line. I do believe when it does come to trial that it will be argued that he did not know he could not do that when in fact the form has a witness/guardian line for signature. The line where Suzanne would sign was blank. As I said, I personally have friends who did not know you could not vote as a guardian for someone else so it is entirely plausible that Barry didn't know what he was doing was against the law. I agree with the judge in that the short statement prosecution wanted to introduce his on the record comment about voting for XYZ into trial as evidence of his knowledge that she was deceased was not supported. He signed it as a guardian...the presumption being the person was alive but unable to sign.
 
  • #666
I don't think one person reading views E & N as superhuman counselors! I share their cases to emphasize that E & N represent the best legal defense that money can buy. Justice is not fair-- ask any poor, underprivileged soul serving a lengthy sentence for a non-violent crime where the well-heeled defendant charged with the same crime receives probation. IMO, engaging E & N was the best decision of BM's life.
Whats worse is I have witnessed the prosecution hire an expensive psychiatrist to win their side and the next time in court that same psychiatrist is hired by the person they were prosecuting and gets that person off! Whoever you pay is going to do a great job of getting you charged or getting you off. If you don't have the money you are scre***
 
  • #667
This exact thing came up in the McStay case where the defence claimed there was a mixed sample of 4 people in the grave site - who of course were said to be the "gang" who killed the family.

The jury appeared to be quite capable of realising that it was nothing to do with the case.

I does seem however, that whereas law enforcement were big adopted of latest DNA methodology to convict people, now defence teams are all over the idea of finding some DNA somewhere and deciding it belongs to "the real killer"!
YES. One of the partial DNA matches was on Summer McStays bra! Naturally the defense played that up big---tried to build upon it being a sexual predator, just like we hear the defense doing in this case now.
 
  • #668
Barry can use the old I was snowed in excuse. Also, we womenfolk here are all quite capable of driving through the mountains here even without monster trucks. Goes with the territory. Our daughters and sons can as well, in fact mountain, snowstorm driving is taught in driver’s education in high school.
Gotta find Suzanne.
True but doesn't mean we aren't white knuckled driving LOL. I've once in a great while almost needed someone to peel my fingers off the steering wheel and I drive 4wd vehicles with Hakkapeliita tires in the winter. I never drive my H's truck in the winter..those are the worst even with 4WD.
 
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That’s so interesting to know, thank you for the local insight.
It's either plowed which it is at the first opportunity or it's closed, to everyone.
 
  • #671
I just had a thought that the DNA that the Defense claims was found in 4 places in the house could be from the daughter’s boyfriend. Is the Defense trying to say this DNA matches the DNA found in Suzanne’s car?
 
  • #672
What isn't explainable by this is her not communicating with anyone at all after 2:47 on Saturday. IT was mothers Day... she didn't check in at all with her girls, nobody before taking a quick ride, but not taking her water source with her? There is no evidence of her leaving the house after Friday night. No phone activity after Saturday afternoon and yet Barry has tons and tons of activity all over the place Saturday and Sunday and then lied about most of it.
As far as water, it would not be her usual bike ride that she drives too. It could be a quick afternoon ride while everyone was gone. It was not too far from her house.
 
  • #673
Exactly. There are two parts to this:

...That DNA is useless, misleading, irrelevant garbage.
If the defense used this "partial DNA" crap at trial, if I were on the prosecution team, I would use examples like, "I found a slip of paper with the number 719-303 on it. We have found a sex offender in our database with a phone number of 719-303-1234. He has lived in several states where a number of women have been raped. Should be assume that he is the perpetrator?"

Another example that could be used is, "A crumpled piece of paper with the name of John B." was found in a nearby trash bin. There is a known sex offender that has been identified as John B. Doe who has been known to frequent areas where several women have been attacked."

The matches to the DNA, phone numbers, names are endless. It's a red herring. Hopefully, jurors would not be stupid enough to fall for something like this. Also, we can only hope that the prosecution would counterattack with logical examples of why it makes no sense at all.

JMO.
 
  • #674
As far as water, it would not be her usual bike ride that she drives too. It could be a quick afternoon ride while everyone was gone. It was not too far from her house.
That explains the lack of water, but does nothing to explain everything else.

Her phone just happens to turn off at the very moment Barry leaves the house, and is never active again.

So she wakes up, never turns on her phone (on Mother's Day no less), then goes on a bike ride at a location that she wouldn't go to, with a powered down phone.

There are so many issues with this it's crazy, and that's not even factoring in everything that Barry did.

So I'll give you an opportunity to introduce a third party, and then explain away all of the damning evidence against Barry. No one has even given it a shot, so I'd love to hear a coherent theory.
 
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I think it is important to note also that according to Lauren Scharf's recap from court yesterday he signed on the witness/guardian line. I do believe when it does come to trial that it will be argued that he did not know he could not do that when in fact the form has a witness/guardian line for signature. The line where Suzanne would sign was blank. As I said, I personally have friends who did not know you could not vote as a guardian for someone else so it is entirely plausible that Barry didn't know what he was doing was against the law. I agree with the judge in that the short statement prosecution wanted to introduce his on the record comment about voting for XYZ into trial as evidence of his knowledge that she was deceased was not supported. He signed it as a guardian...the presumption being the person was alive but unable to sign.
That excuse might work except for the fact he told the investigators that the reason he did it was because (paraphrasing) everyone else cheats.

The problem that Barry creates for himself is that he goes out of his way to trash others when he’s trying to explain his own doings. Like when he said about the Senate hearings that he knew they were all lying because they said, “I can’t recall.” He then goes on to answer, “I can’t recall,” to a good portion of the agents’ questions.

He’s not content to simply explain himself. He likes to tear someone else down while a doing so. Good old Barry seems to think the rules apply to everyone but himself.
 
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  • #676
That excuse might work except for the fact he told the investigators that the reason he did it was because (paraphrasing) everyone else cheats.
Sure did!
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  • #677
Seattle, if someone loaned a vehicle to BM on the night in question or if they believed they were hauling a carcass away, don’t you think they would have told LE about it? I mean they have had plenty of time to figure out that BM used them.
I think BM attracts friends similar to himself where taking down elk for his own financial gain is acceptable. People that $$$ can buy their silence-- even after learning they were used.

It's amazing thinking how many people BM may have "used " -- beginning with the unsuspecting Ritters that welcomed the Morphews and hosted the extended family and friends of family during the initial searches for SM. MOO
 
  • #678
I think BM attracts friends similar to himself where taking down elk for his own financial gain is acceptable. People that $$$ can buy their silence-- even after learning they were used.

It's amazing thinking how many people BM may have "used " -- beginning with the unsuspecting Ritters that welcomed the Morphews and hosted the extended family and friends of family during the initial searches for SM. MOO

It's why his ongoing gaslighting is so abusive
 
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I believe that the DNA partial match is given way too much weight. If she was taken/killed by a sexual predator he would have put her in his vehicle and left. How do you explain the bike in one spot and the helmet in another? If she was riding her bike when the predator came by and he took her then, there would be no reason to leave DNA on her glove box as he would have to break into the house to get to the car. This guy would not be wasting time taking her bike and helmet and dumping them while she is incapacitated in his vehicle. To what end? He would want to leave that area immediately. So if you buy the theory that a sexual offender got her (based on the glove box), then you have to question why the bike and helmet were found tossed. Who would have a motive to dump the bike and helmet??? Hmmmm

Welcome Bootsie.:):):)
Great first post.
Hope to hear more from you.
 
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