Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #90

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  • #701
There are a couple of things that lead me to the possibility of an accomplice.

1- The 25 minutes or so when bM's truck moved in the driveway and the doors registered as being closed. What was he doing in the truck for all that time? Could he have met with someone in the truck? The doors opened and closed a lot of times. Another person there could help account for the high number of openings and closings.

2- SM's phone pinging at 4 something in the morning ( sorry can't remember the exact time ) 11 miles away from PP. Was she and her phone being moved away at that time while bM was home or putzing around on his drive to pitch the bike and helmet.

3- And this is my biggest concern about an accomplice is his time in the Men's Warehouse parking lot. He spent a lot of time there in his truck. Did he meet someone there? Talk on another phone to someone during that time? The man doesn't stay still for very long, ever! So why and what was he doing during that time in that parking lot. It wasn't cleaning his truck as it was a mess still by the time he drove back home where he met police.

Those are 3 things that make me question a possible accomplice. It's not a lot but it is an anomaly out of everything we have from that day. Those things have ALWAYS stood out for me since reading the timeline and AA for some reason.
I’m not too concerned about those three things. 1) the telematics of the truck showed many incidents of something happening but it doesn’t say all of those were door openings and closings. Barry seems to be a hyper person. I’m sure you have to be super hyper while trying to cover a murder. Right? o_O
2). He could have had someone helping him move the body. None of us are sure. I think he acted alone and was placing her body in a cave or mine. Not sure about the phone ping. I have wondered if he didn’t realize he had it and disabled it at that time or what he did with it. I think he knows exactly where it is. But his answers are so disjointed when talking to LE and he seems overly concerned about the phone. Could have been an act though. 3)
as far as his stop at Mens wearhouse, I’m hoping LE has more information now about that. It could just be after not sleeping the night before, he was sitting and reliving the murder and all he had done. You know, an empty parking lot where he could sit and gather his thoughts. I don’t know if he was dumb enough to meet someone in a parking lot where he could be caught on camera.
Well actually, he is.
 
  • #702
True. Hope they thoroughly searched all the vehicles for trace evidence.

But I do think Barry is correct that he could hide a body.
Who would boast such a thing?
MOO someone thinking about but not quite committed to killing someone yet.
Once committed I doubt they would slip like that.
BBM

Scott Peterson, before he murdered Laci, and he got the DP (although he’ll end up with LWOP).

Barry had obviously given this a lot of thought.
 
  • #703
I’m not too concerned about those three things. 1) the telematics of the truck showed many incidents of something happening but it doesn’t say all of those were door openings and closings. Barry seems to be a hyper person. I’m sure you have to be super hyper while trying to cover a murder. Right? o_O
2). He could have had someone helping him move the body. None of us are sure. I think he acted alone and was placing her body in a cave or mine. Not sure about the phone ping. I have wondered if he didn’t realize he had it and disabled it at that time or what he did with it. I think he knows exactly where it is. But his answers are so disjointed when talking to LE and he seems overly concerned about the phone. Could have been an act though. 3)
as far as his stop at Mens wearhouse, I’m hoping LE has more information now about that. It could just be after not sleeping the night before, he was sitting and reliving the murder and all he had done. You know, an empty parking lot where he could sit and gather his thoughts. I don’t know if he was dumb enough to meet someone in a parking lot where he could be caught on camera.
Well actually, he is.
Suzanne cared deeply at a not too distant past about Barry having an affair.

Just as the police found him an evasive, evolving and creative liar, so probably ultimately did she.
Her "done" text says as much.

MOO he wore her out with evasions, crazy explanations, drama and daughter politics.
 
  • #704
BBM

Scott Peterson, before he murdered Laci, and he got the DP (although he’ll end up with LWOP).

Barry had obviously given this a lot of thought.
Patrick Frazee too. Of course he got 154 years.
 
  • #705
I wanted to answer this as it isn't something that has been discussed at length. I want to hear the conversations LE had with Barry before I lock into that thinking however it's a pretty good guess that not everything Barry said was a lie. The same actions that people dismiss....that he went searching, that he pleaded, that he was distraught, in the early days could just as easily be attributed to that he did not genuinely know where she "was". Can you imagine the stress that would be? Maybe he doesn't know where she "is"? People have continually dismissed the distraught Barry in the early days as a "fake performance"...I'm not convinced of that entirely. These are the other things that bother me that "could" suggest he didn't act alone and could skillfully be argued by defense that I need to hear both prosecution and defense arguments. Now that doesn't eliminate the fact that prosecution can try this case successfully.....it is just my thoughts as I try to maintain my objectivity.
  1. no evidence of anything in the house that points to her being killed in the house or around the house and then moved but no evidence that Barry left the house during the time period investigators have locked into While this may appear to be true, when someone is savvy enough to meticulously plan a murder, they don't intend to leave evidence of their crime behind.
  2. no evidence of his truck leaving from the afternoon to the following morning. 95 feet data says and lots of door openings, closing or whatever that data is going to say happen so stuff was going on it sounds like in the middle of the night but not movement that would suggest transportation of a body some distance away. I agree that moving her body does not seem to have occurred while using his truck at night or at the 3am opening of the doors, etc. That does not preclude using, borrowing or having access to anyone else's vehicle though. Exactly why was Barry disconnecting his truck's battery? I'm going to step wide here and add that MG may have inadvertently been involved in this process of removal. I have reason to suspect she was at the Morphew home late on the afternoon of the 9th.
  3. no evidence showing any other vehicle of the Morphews was driven between the afternoon and the next day and it has been suggested there is an ATV, but I haven't seen anything that supports that theory. There could have been, and other Morphew vehicles could have moved, or other vehicles arrive at the house in the night, but so far we haven't heard any evidence so gives me pause. I agree that if the FBI had evidence of another Morphew vehicle being used then that critical data would have made it into the 130 page AA. I'm not sure the disposal occurred under the cover of darkness or rather, perhaps, closer to the time of her last proof of life or late in the afternoon on the 9th.
  4. I don't think he "carried" her somewhere. Too much searching close enough even of the mines has occurred. He could lug her precious body around the property tossed over his shoulder down to the water's edge or farther for removal from their property later either by himself or someone else. I do believe he had reason to believe cadaver scent was upon his body. Hence, the odor of bleach in the PP home and HIE hotel room, numerous changes of clothes, etal. The biggest clue here, for me, is tossing his camo jacket. Didn't he also toss his work boots? I suspect he was wearing both when her death occurred and during whatever followed. Some of the local mines were repelled by searchers.
    The Bobcat blade was changed at DSI on Saturday but, a few days later, a cadaver dog hops onto the seat and alerts, a footprint is found on the new bucket/blade [I think those are the same thing by interchangeable names] and two other dogs also alert to the skid. I find this to be concerning.
  5. No evidence that he "pre-prepared" a hiding place for the body...just speculation Until Suzanne is found we really won't know this so it is purely my own speculation that her site was waiting.
  6. Weak tranquilizer argument and no gun that was operational that could have fired the kind of tranq darts he had. That got confirmed in the 48 hours piece by the man who said "no" to firing from a different 22 and no signs of struggle other than a door jamb which can't be shown occurred May 9 or 10 to suggest something manual was done. This absolutely bothers me the most considering no evidence of death in or near the house. I have questions about why LE didn't find the needle sheath in the first search...what else did they miss the first go round? The FBI allowing Barry to pass them the illegal .22 via the window of his vehicle burns me. No wonder he thought they were his friends. An FBI Agent may not realize a clothes dryer has a lint trap unless they've been assigned laundry duty at some point in their life. However, the dart's sheath was found in the trap. I suspect Suzanne's DNA was planted onto the sheath by her killer.
  7. Lastly Barry left in the early AM...the house was empty until the police arrived that night. Even if Barry did something to her, there was many hours to move her by someone when it is known for fact that Barry was no where near Can't argue with the home being empty once Barry left for Broomfield. However, who would want to enter Suzanne's home to kidnap her, plant her bike, and plant her helmet unless it was a paid hit? If a RSO was involved in her leaving the home on Mother's Day; why take her, her bike, her helmet, her cell phone and charger? Didn't happen! I can't agree to anyone else being in the Morphew home on Sunday after Barry departs.
  8. I am one who believes that it "sounds" like the DNA work as been woefully negligent or unrevealed at this point to eliminate someone else "helping", in my opinion it can't just be dismissed...it needs to be explained why it is irrelevant as innocuous as it might be. I agree the DNA cannot be dismissed until we learn more about how it was handled. When that time comes, I think the DNA will indicate no one but Barry could be involved in her murder -- unless he paid someone to aid and assist. Is that where the $70k from the safe went? Would a meth head perform this kind of favor for money? What about someone who's accustomed to a cocaine habit?
All of that makes my objective self wonder if someone else helped at minimum. The prosecution has put a stake in Barry did it, Barry planned it and Barry did it alone and there certainly some things that can bolster that argument whether it's enough is anyone's guess at this point and totally separate from wondering if Barry acted alone so I can peacefully wait until trial and I look forward to hearing the conversations and movements captured on body cam objectively.

Unfortunately, although we are eager, we may not receive those valuable bits of evidence from the PH in a timely fashion. The court has trouble with the white noise during sidebars and the WebEx being hacked so it does not surprise that they don't have a clue on how to produce the PH evidence for public consumption. I do wonder why Judge Murphy had not already begun working toward this effort since he was initially the one who announced we'd be getting it, if memory serves correctly. Thus, we wait. Justice is so slow.
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  • #707
Is BM wearing his mask over his nose today?
Inquiring minds...

I'm finding it impossible any longer to repress telling you how your timely, apropos sarcasm brings the 'should-never-be-misplaced-past' into the present in this convoluted and drawn-out case.
Super kudos! [understated]
 
  • #708
I believe the modification will be effective when the judge signs the order. It was snowing on Tuesday when the hearing concluded and as I watched a live webcam of Salida late at night, a snowplow driving past the 66 Station, I thought about SM who wanted to leave BM but never ever leave her daughters-- spending her last days house shopping for them. BM was thinking of nobody but himself when he insisted on moving to the Cushman's residence. Don't be fooled. He's no family man. MOO

US HWY 50 East Salida, Colorado - Buena Vista & Salida, Colorado Vacation

Your thoughtful words make these green eyes sting.

I suspect this statement has more implication that many realize:

"He's no family man."
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  • #709
IMO most people here assume Barry asked for immunity because he was going to admit to killing/ disappearing Suzanne. It may have been for another reason, say following the elks, not for non existent that time of the year antlers, but to shoot one for the freezer and he didn’t want to go to jail for poaching.

My apologies for I cannot agree with poaching being the reason for Barry requesting immunity.

"On March 5 of this year, 10 months after the disappearance of Suzanne Morphew, her husband Barry asked two FBI agents, "What about immunity? Can you give me immunity if I just sit and open my life to you?"

Grusing and Harris conducted their last interview with Barry Morphew on April 22 in what Grusing described as an "audit interview."

Grusing said he was the auditor in the investigation. He reviewed the work done by local law enforcement and the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) between the time of Suzanne Morphew's disappearance and July 2020, and then conducted his own interviews, along with Harris, in 2021.

At that last interview, Barry Morphew answered with the words "I don't recall" to at least 95 of Grusing's questions and possibly more, Grusing testified.

Barry Morphew asked investigators: 'What about immunity?'
 
  • #710
Months ago I posted a legal analysis on the PH by an attorney host who stated that IE is known by her peers as "hurricane Iris." I think of hurricanes as a source of powerful wind where things swirl around for a bit before settling down. And we all know that storms can be fun to watch! I've mostly seen Category 1 -- some messy, interruptive winds here. MOO
Thank you-- your posts always seem to "ground" me LOL

Ive been reading along, catching up tonight and saw some tweets from court and my heart sunk.

I mean, when it walks like a duck, talks like a duck...well...you all know :)

When you have known inside from day one...have felt it in your gut, the pit of your stomach, in your head and in your heart, when you just feel it.. as to who is responsible and then to read something that you know could put doubts into a jury pool. UGH

But now I feel a little better with the hurricane reference.

I just don't want this one to walk, unless it is the Perp walk INTO prison.
JMO
 
  • #711
A limited DNA sample, mixed with the two daughters DNA.

Such a limited sample, and mixed sample may be due to being a secondary transfer from one of the daughters hands, for example from the daughter touching a store door before entering the RR.

MOO there is a good possibilty the male contributor of the dash DNA was never near the RR.
Or maybe a daughter had just been holding hands with her boyfriend.
 
  • #712
Or maybe a daughter had just been holding hands with her boyfriend.
Yes. Or handing a binder to a schoolmate. Touch DNA can be a secondary transfer, especially a limited mixed sample.
It's not good standalone evidence.
 
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  • #713
Yeah, like I believe the defense's 'independent' poll. Too funny!
So they had all of these people going home by home, asking opinions of residents of Salida. Sure, that happened. :rolleyes:
They just make 'stuff' up as they go along. And, it seems to be working.
No, hopefully they mailed out the surveys so therefore, BM will have included on his monthly invoice, the postage fees, including sending them out and postage paid return envelopes, the time spent with hourly charges/fees for typing up/preparing the surveys, and also the billable time to review the surveys and finalize the results/conclusion of 60%.

Yeah, I know - wishful thinking that it went down this way but thought it might bring a chuckle to others as it did me when these thoughts came to my mind!

(Furthermore, this so called "survey" probably didn't even happen).
 
  • #714
Sometimes it is hard for some of us to look kindly upon the daughters, when they seem to support BM 100%. But what else can they do? And some of us might also look unkindly upon them if they didn't support him, at least at this stage of events. If/when he is convicted, that might be a whole different ballgame.
 
  • #715
Sometimes it is hard for some of us to look kindly upon the daughters, when they seem to support BM 100%. But what else can they do? And some of us might also look unkindly upon them if they didn't support him, at least at this stage of events. If/when he is convicted, that might be a whole different ballgame.
I don't know if I've ever seen it change, even after conviction.

It's just standard behavior in cases like this, so it's something I always expect.

Don't have to like it though.
 
  • #716
Or maybe a daughter had just been holding hands with her boyfriend.

Wouldn’t surprise me in the least that MH helped Suzanne load and unload her bike from the RR. His DNA could easily be explained almost everywhere stranger DNA was found. Wouldn’t for a second put it past Barry to throw him under the bus. After all his daughters are virgins and if he wanted to kill two chipmunks with one tranquilizer shot then why not? I worry for the young man because he seems to be a caring, concerned and honorable young man who likely loves the younger MM. He also must he extremely brave to support and continue to love a young MM. Barry is the type of dad to make not only the young man run in fear but maybe his entire family. IMO Barry controls his daughters and their beau’s every bit as much as he controlled Suzanne. IMO I fear for his safety and his parents as well. Maybe Barry’s permission to travel
To Gunnison is merely about further control. Time will tell hopefully. IMO
 
  • #717
^^rsbm

^^rsbm
I'm not aware of a court decision preventing a defendant from employment. Based on personal experience, I've no doubt that BM continued working before his arrest and since his release from jail. Relative to DSI as a source of work, they appear to hire from the available workforce to fulfill their contractual obligations. A good example is JP, a self-confirmed convict. MOO

I guess my train of thoughts, att, were on what ADA Lindsey said about Barry not needing to live at the Cushman's when he could afford to rent a hotel room anywhere for a year (while awaiting trial). Never thought the court limited Barry's employment with stipulations other than to stay in Chaffee County and drive to Poncha Springs once a day for his ankle monitoring. I'm fairly certain Barry didn't work for at least a month or longer after Suzanne was reported missing. He wasn't even allowed back into PP for 3 weeks.

First job I recall Barry doing was when he was seen installing iron security gates at some point but I'm not sure when or where that was located now. Was it at the Longhorn subdivision?

After JPs interview with LS, DSI refused to allow him to work for them. Apparently, the owner or management didn't appreciate the interview taking place on their property. JP operates heavy equipment so I hope his income hasn't suffered because the Broomfield wall repair was his first time working for Barry. I'm still uncertain whose idea it was adding JP to the Broomfield job. Do you or anyone recall? Was it MGs or Barry's?

Something is odd, jmo, about MG and JP traveling to Broomfield. Wonder which route they took since he said they left around 5:30ish, with MG driving, but didn't arrive until 10pm at the HIE.
 
  • #718
I guess my train of thoughts, att, were on what ADA Lindsey said about Barry not needing to live at the Cushman's when he could afford to rent a hotel room anywhere for a year (while awaiting trial). Never thought the court limited Barry's employment with stipulations other than to stay in Chaffee County and drive to Poncha Springs once a day for his ankle monitoring. I'm fairly certain Barry didn't work for at least a month or longer after Suzanne was reported missing. He wasn't even allowed back into PP for 3 weeks.

First job I recall Barry doing was when he was seen installing iron security gates at some point but I'm not sure when or where that was located now. Was it at the Longhorn subdivision?

After JPs interview with LS, DSI refused to allow him to work for them. Apparently, the owner or management didn't appreciate the interview taking place on their property. JP operates heavy equipment so I hope his income hasn't suffered because the Broomfield wall repair was his first time working for Barry. I'm still uncertain whose idea it was adding JP to the Broomfield job. Do you or anyone recall? Was it MGs or Barry's?

Something is odd, jmo, about MG and JP traveling to Broomfield. Wonder which route they took since he said they left around 5:30ish, with MG driving, but didn't arrive until 10pm at the HIE.
According to JP the faux wall job/trip to Bloomfield was Barry’s idea which JP agreed to but only after JP finalized his plans once he spoke with Barry to confirm Barry did indeed want him on the job.
 
  • #719
I don't know if I've ever seen it change, even after conviction.

It's just standard behavior in cases like this, so it's something I always expect.

Don't have to like it though.
MOO if my father did my mother in.
If there was a chance he didn't do it, I guess I would want to believe.
 
  • #720
I’m not too concerned about those three things. 1) the telematics of the truck showed many incidents of something happening but it doesn’t say all of those were door openings and closings. Barry seems to be a hyper person. I’m sure you have to be super hyper while trying to cover a murder. Right? o_O
2). He could have had someone helping him move the body. None of us are sure. I think he acted alone and was placing her body in a cave or mine. Not sure about the phone ping. I have wondered if he didn’t realize he had it and disabled it at that time or what he did with it. I think he knows exactly where it is. But his answers are so disjointed when talking to LE and he seems overly concerned about the phone. Could have been an act though. 3)
as far as his stop at Mens wearhouse, I’m hoping LE has more information now about that. It could just be after not sleeping the night before, he was sitting and reliving the murder and all he had done. You know, an empty parking lot where he could sit and gather his thoughts. I don’t know if he was dumb enough to meet someone in a parking lot where he could be caught on camera.
Well actually, he is.

I think he lost the phone somewhere. He was more concerned with that than he was if they found Suzanne. It's the 1st thing he asked about when notified of the bike being found. He continued to ask about the phone during his interviews even going so far as to think LE had the phone. He messed up and lost possession of it somewhere. I'd bet money on it.

A lot of the truck actions were the opening and closing of doors though. There was an abnormal amount of them. 1 or 6 times might be nothing but there are dozens of actions of the doors opening and closing. And if there was some kind of truck malfunction I find it highly curious and suspicious they happened right before he left for the day.

Why sit and think about things in the Men's Warehouse parking lot? Like you said he's hyper active. Why there out of all the places he stopped that day did he sit there? He had hours to think alone during his drive and the time he spent in his hotel room where he would be secluded. SOMETHING went down in that parking lot. It's one of the only times he sat still the entire day and can't be accounted for by video evidence. That is not normal compared to all his other movements and activities that day. I can't just put this out of my head. Everything he did that day had an explanation of some sort. I haven't seen ANYTHING that explains that. Not. One. Single. Thing.
 
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