Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #90

[DeDee]

I think it's hard for judges to make these decisions sometimes, in terms of the internal conflicting emotions. But it is vital to our system of justice that they operate as impartial decision makers, applying legal standards and criteria without ulterior motives. The judge cannot impose restrictions that assume BM is a danger to his daughters, who tell him in effect that they have nothing to fear from their father.

I am braced for either one, or both of them, to testify "against" Suzanne. The truth may be stretched almost to the point of being ridiculous. It may be at this point that the jury sees the truth through the lies.

This comes from a personal experience perspective and years of professional mental health treatment for C-PTSD. I'm thrilled MM2 already has a bf. Most children of a narcissistic father, tend to marry the same personality type as their father and/or they may become a narc, too.
moo (but online data is available to back this up)

A narcissist targets those who are empaths and vulnerable in order to control them. Recall when MM1 showed her father she'd let her hair grow long. Suzanne kept her hair long. I do feel these are examples of trying to please the control freak. As victims, we'll toss our own needs and desires aside in order to please the control freak.

Smiling, I walked into the dining room one evening to present myself as we were planning to enjoy dinner out on the town when he said, "I like the dress you wore last Thursday." Imagine the confusion that went on in my head for the entire evening.
moo
To learn more, read about the narcissist and the empath.

 

[Kittybunny]

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It is very disappointing that the judge must have read this and seen that BM was capable of manipulating his daughters emotions for his own benefit and yet he still allowed BM to extend his bail conditions to visit them at their home.

It's also really disappointing that the prosecution did not even try to make those arguments and bring up these points. (Assuming they didn't)

And oh these texts... they tear my heart out and make me sick at the same time.

 

[swedeheart]

My spellchecker takes issue with Barry's inability to pronounce the G on a present participle.

A sampling of Barry's redneck speak AA quotes.

“... everybody jumped on, beatin’ the freakin’ crap out of me.”
“They had already crossed. They were in the road when I stopped in the road before I got to fifty, they were in the road, crossing, and then they cross the road, and by the time I get up there, they’re already crossin’ the mountain. I mean, I don’t stop on fifty, I keep going. I’m just watchin’ to see where they’re going. I get to Garfield, turn around, go right to 285.”
“I know that you took my bed sheets. I know, I didn’t even know until after the fact that — sheets were off her bed upstairs. I mean, what a coincidence. Her sheets are off her bed and then all of the sudden, it’s like, ‘That’s where he did it. And the sheets are gone. He washed ’em. Blah, blah, blah.’ I had no idea they were off. Suzanne was obviously washin’ the sheets because REDACTED was with Suzanne68 and REDACTED and they were gonna stay there that night and Suzanne’s takin’ sheets off, and washin’, gettin’ things ready.”
“I’m tellin’ you, I’m telllin’ you right now I’ve shot two deer with my tranq gun, ’cause I used to raise deer, and I collect horns, and I’ll tell you exactly what I did.”
“I’m just tellin’ you right now, I’m a redneck. And, I’m, the first thing I thought of when I came here and saw deer in my yard with big horns, I’m like, ‘I’m getting’ them horns.’ Not gonna kill it. Not gonna poach it. But I guarantee if DNR knew I did that, they’d slap my wrist pretty hard.”
“Because it looks like if I did something and ripped the sheet and got blood on them and ripped ’em off and washed ’em- to me, lookin’ at it through a detective’s eyes, that would look a little suspicious.”
“Yeah, and, urn, even the outside cameras, she thought that, ‘Oh you’re watchin’, or your girlfriend is watchin’ you on the outside cameras.’ I said, ‘Honey, the outside cameras don’t even work.’ And, but she was just certain that if like, I was outside with her and doing something in the yard, she would say, ‘I know she’s watchin’ you.’ Just stupid stuff, and I’m like, that’s why these, the only reason that these fights happen is because she’s accusin’ me. And I never understood them until now; she’s accusing me because she wants to justify her relationship.”​

He turns it on and off, maybe he thinks it makes him sound folksy, but I think he lays it on thick for investigators and cameras.

Just going back and catching up with some missed pages of posts from yesterday, and it caught my attention that he's discussing the cameras, and clearly making it seem like Suzanne was the jealous one.

It made me think to myself, what if BM gaslit Suzanne to the point that she was the one who actually unplugged the cables, hence her DNA on them.

It wouldn't be the first (or likely the last) time we've gotten some Barrysplainin'!

(I realize we are probably going 'round and 'round and 'round with all the details of this case, but it seems like each time more info gets released and discussed, we get a slightly bigger picture than the one we had previously, one tiny puzzle piece at time. )

 

[Cindizzi]

I am very disappointed in both judges right now. The first for allowing bail and for Barry to be around his daughters. The second for giving him right to see them in Gunnison. They can read as well as we can and see the manipulation and gaslighting Barry uses.

And for you legal eagles who say the judges must follow the law, I have no legal basis to disagree with you. But a wise judge knows how to use discretion in all matters.

King Solomon comes to mind.

In BM’s very first appearance before Judge Murphy a protective order was issued for the daughters. I believe BM’s public defender at the time asked for civil contact because the daughters wished to be in touch with BM. The State did not object.

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/ne...y-after-murder-charge-in-suzanne-morphew-case
At the end of the hearing, Judge Murphy asked the prosecution about a protection order for Barry and Suzanne's two daughters, Mallory and Macy. The prosecution said it did not object to "civil contact" between Barry and his daughters.

"Mr. Morphew, I will enter a protection order that will allow you to have contact with Mallory and Macy Morphew," Judge Murphy said. "The idea is that that contact has to be civil, so you can't threaten, harass or annoy."

A violation of this could result in a charge of violation of a protection order, the judge said.

 

[tmar]

I think the key on this one is to get the best expert they can to testify about the DNA. Someone that knows it front back and sideways. Someone that isn't easily rattled, will not cave or get flustered at the defenses questions. Someone that can present it exactly for what it is as simply as possible so that anyone understands it.

I agree justtrish.
An expert, clearly explaining, so easily understood by everyone, would be ideal.

But the Defence's technique of questioning will present doubts, by presenting contrary suggestions, their own research on information introducing different scenarios, making one wonder.

 

[Seattle1]

Actually kings and judges have been doing this since the beginning of time. I’m really astounded at judges who make decisions based on personal feelings or personal politics every single day. Regardless of fairness and law. That cannot be denied. .

I also find it very odd how there seems to be some recognition of what you're saying here by the court whereupon arrest, without the request of any party, an order of protection was drafted and the incarcerated was ordered to toe the line (civil contact), yet the same order seems to be tossed out the window the moment bail release is signed off. I guess I'm missing what changes from the need to impose a protection order (while in custody) to the now --other than a king's ransom of hefty coin. JMO

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/ne...y-after-murder-charge-in-suzanne-morphew-case

 

[Cindizzi]

I also find it very odd how there seems to be some recognition of what you're saying here by the court whereupon arrest, without the request of any party, an order of protection was drafted and the incarcerated was ordered to toe the line (civil contact), yet the same order seems to be tossed out the window the moment bail release is signed off. I guess I'm missing what changes from the need to impose a protection order (while in custody) to the now --other than a king's ransom of hefty coin. JMO

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/ne...y-after-murder-charge-in-suzanne-morphew-case

Too bad all the documents were never uploaded to the public site.
I think a Mandatory Protection Order is always automatically issued to protect all victims and witnesses.
Remember when the tabloids said that L.Stauch’s biological daughter HH was “ in protective custody “ ?
They had misinterpreted the protective order that had been issued by the Court.
Here’s what LS’s says and I notice it is in effect for 2 years from date of issuance. 3/5/2020 - 3/5/2022.
JMO

 

[Momofthreeboys]

I also find it very odd how there seems to be some recognition of what you're saying here by the court whereupon arrest, without the request of any party, an order of protection was drafted and the incarcerated was ordered to toe the line (civil contact), yet the same order seems to be tossed out the window the moment bail release is signed off. I guess I'm missing what changes from the need to impose a protection order (while in custody) to the now --other than a king's ransom of hefty coin. JMO

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/ne...y-after-murder-charge-in-suzanne-morphew-case

If I recall protective orders when he was arrested and jailed were the norm for the daughters and Judge Murphy was a very much a by the book kind of guy. He is now free on bond so the conditions have changed. As victims by law the daughters wishes will always be heard and consideration given. I don’t see anything questionable here. It is possible those original protective orders are still actionable but there is nothing to action.

 

[Megnut]

It's not lost on me that Suzanne wanted out of the marriage, and wanted to do it in a civil manner.

The judge granted a work around of the protective order, as long as Barry was civil.

There seems to be a foreboding, unshakable sense that Barry isn't naturally very civil...ized.

The charges bear that out.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

Is the defense offering Busy Barry B's Bobcat's telematics as an alternate alibi (for Saturday) to Sunday's wallibi?

That he was so busy running errands and running his Bobcat on Saturday that he couldn't possibility have had time to murder anyone?

All that hardscaping around PP, who's to say he didn't already have a hole dug? A chipmunk pit, if you will. A chipmunk, a couch, whatever.

An expert skid load operator could re-grade something like that in no time at all.

I draw about a ten mile radius around PP.

JMO

 

[Momofthreeboys]

I am braced for either one, or both of them, to testify "against" Suzanne. The truth may be stretched almost to the point of being ridiculous. It may be at this point that the jury sees the truth through the lies.

This comes from a personal experience perspective and years of professional mental health treatment for C-PTSD. I'm thrilled MM2 already has a bf. Most children of a narcissistic father, tend to marry the same personality type as their father and/or they may become a narc, too.
moo (but online data is available to back this up)

A narcissist targets those who are empaths and vulnerable in order to control them. Recall when MM1 showed her father she'd let her hair grow long. Suzanne kept her hair long. I do feel these are examples of trying to please the control freak. As victims, we'll toss our own needs and desires aside in order to please the control freak.

Smiling, I walked into the dining room one evening to present myself as we were planning to enjoy dinner out on the town when he said, "I like the dress you wore last Thursday." Imagine the confusion that went on in my head for the entire evening.
moo
To learn more, read about the narcissist and the empath.

I hope neither of them have to testify for either side. There is plenty of evidence that illustrates the dynamics of their marriage and neither of them were anywhere near the house during the time the prosecution has stated the crime occurred.

 

[NWLady]

I was searching the affidavit for something else, and came upon this. What a complete sleezeball.

...During these recordings, Barry told Holly words to the effect, "you are Suzanne to me," he held her hand while in the car, gave her a kiss good night, told her Suzanne would approve of whatever would happen in their relationship, and twice touched Holly's breasts, pretending like the touches were accidents when her husband's head was turned away or not looking.

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And we are to believe this same guy (BM) didn't have ANY extra-marital affairs prior to SM going missing/disappearing?!

Yeah right.

 

[crhedBngr]

This text from Suzanne in Sept. 2019 really makes me wonder on which mountain he was and what he was doing:



Could he have been scoping out places to disappear her?

 

[Love Never Fails]

I also find it very odd how there seems to be some recognition of what you're saying here by the court whereupon arrest, without the request of any party, an order of protection was drafted and the incarcerated was ordered to toe the line (civil contact), yet the same order seems to be tossed out the window the moment bail release is signed off. I guess I'm missing what changes from the need to impose a protection order (while in custody) to the now --other than a king's ransom of hefty coin. JMO

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/ne...y-after-murder-charge-in-suzanne-morphew-case

Great point. I hope the girls can stand up to the manipulation. I have hope that maybe MM2 can see it for what it is. I think maybe MM1 was groomed by him long ago.

Oh Suzanne, if only you were here!

 

[Love Never Fails]

And we are to believe this same guy (BM) didn't have ANY extra-marital affairs prior to SM going missing/disappearing?!

Yeah right.

I’m hoping the judge allows Hollys testimony. It will be hard on her but I hope she is strong so maybe it might open Suzanne’s daughters eyes.

 

[Love Never Fails]

A judge isn't going to make a decision based on one side's text message to a friend. The judge sees them in court with their dad. Theoretically the prosecution is charged for looking out for them also as "victims". And I"m sure Barry's lawyers are watching out for them. Everyone is watching out for them and I highly doubt anyone is going to do anything that is dangerous or detrimental to them.

Curious. What makes you think Barry’s lawyers are looking out for his daughters?
It’s a fact you can have the world watching, but a manipulating narcissist will know how to get to them. Emotional scars can last a lifetime.

 

[sk716]

I doubt that E&N indulge in such stereotypes. But if they do, BM should beware. My guess is, a jury of Jeff Pucketts wouldn't take more than a couple of hours to put BM away for life - and that would include an hour and 45 minutes for a few hands of penny ante Texas hold 'em, for appearances sake.

I've noticed that 3 hours is a very common amount of time for a jury to deliberate.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Oh yes, even Suzanne would agree that "even if one life was saved, it was worth it" according to BARE himself during that pathetic video plea.

You made me think of something.
That video. It repulsed all of us. I think it will have the same affect on the jury.

 

[MassGuy]

I've noticed that 3 hours is a very common amount of time for a jury to deliberate.

Ha! Me too.

As much as I would love that here, I just don't see it being the case. The trial is going to be fairly lengthy, and there is no smoking gun.

I could see it taking days, although we'll certainly have a better idea once the trial begins.

 

[Boxer]

And to me they look like deep fingernail digs, not branches.

MOO

Fingernail marks.
Too wide and regular for a branch.