Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #91

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  • #61
I think in this case Suzanne didn't just say he was a narcissist though, she explained things he did or said that really paint the picture that is was controlling and possibly a narcissist. There is a difference in me saying my husband is xyz and me pouring my heart out explaining things he has done and then others being able to infer that he is a narcissist. I think that is clear here with just the small bits we have read. We even have Barry admitting to LE that he said or did some things just to hurt her, which confirms some of the things she was texting or telling others. I am not a mental health professional so of course I can't diagnose anyone with anything. I just think her words line up with his very own lies and then admissions to LE. It paints a picture far bigger than just Suzanne saying he is xyz.
MOO psych name calling is just someone trying to oraganize their thoughts.
"Why is my spouse acting this way? Am I at fault etc." Was probably SMs first thought pattern.
MOO
Her trying to figure out BM while he is moving toward a solution of getting rid of her, is going to be a sad situation of a wife not suspecting how selfish her spouse really is.
 
  • #62
There is no proof Chandler Haldersen killed his parents.
In that case their remains were found.
The defense still went with basically there is no video of him killing them.

This has less evidence because of no body, but the structure is the same, events surrounding a persons disappearnce leave no other reasonable option.

And in BMs case lying about his actions in the circumstances surrounding hos wife's disappearance is a form of confession.
Nope, not buying it., sorry. We'll see what happens.
 
  • #63
Do any of you think that the prosecution should withdraw and start again?
MOO Why they decided to pull the trigger when they did is still not known. Hopefully its something significant.
 
  • #64
This certainly supports those texts from Suzanne. It's almost as if Barry was lying when he described the "perfect" marriage:
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100% The statements to LE from the girls and MM2's boyfriend BEFORE the realized Barry was target #1 are important.

Something I was curious about is the girls were on their way home from this camping trip. They try calling their mom and get nothing back. Knowing the signal can be bad out where they are, why were they so worried when they couldn't reach her? I guess maybe Suzanne was so predictable, but then that really speaks to Suzanne then and how she likely would not run off. If the girls could always reach her any time day or night and suddenly couldn't, that would trigger the calls to have the Ritter's to check on her. But, again they were on their way home and they would see her soon. I just have this feeling the girls were worried because they KNEW.. not that they knew ahead of time, but I believe deep down when they couldn't get ahold of her, they thought their dad did something to her. I hope they really consider this before trial and know it's okay to love their dad and speak the truth if that is what they felt. Deep down I think they worried he could or would hurt her.
 
  • #65
Thanks for postings these.

I have queries for two of the photos.

The scratches - I don't think they are fingernail scratches. My reasoning is that they are too short and uniform. However, i am wondering if I am looking at the picture the wrong way. If B had S in a headlock, that may work, but I still think that are too short, unless in this scenario, S lost consciousness quickly.


The Bike - is it just angles, as it seems to me that there is only dirt residue on part of the tyres (both back and front). Are there any cyclists on here who could tell me whether this bike has brakes on the back and on the front and what kind of dirst residue would be on the tyres if the bike braked hard and skidded to a halt.
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The nail scratches are more like gauges, like she dug her nails into Barry. A tree doing that is wild, as is the location and timing of the healing.

The most important things about the bike are that it was found in a location she would never go, and she didn't bring things she would always bring.

She also never turned her phone on that morning (it shut off when Barry was leaving the house). We know she typically took it on bike rides.

The bike expert also said the bike was pushed down the hill, so an accident made no sense.
 
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  • #66
Thanks for postings these.

I have queries for two of the photos.

The scratches - I don't think they are fingernail scratches. My reasoning is that they are too short and uniform. However, i am wondering if I am looking at the picture the wrong way. If B had S in a headlock, that may work, but I still think that are too short, unless in this scenario, S lost consciousness quickly.


The Bike - is it just angles, as it seems to me that there is only dirt residue on part of the tyres (both back and front). Are there any cyclists on here who could tell me whether this bike has brakes on the back and on the front and what kind of dirst residue would be on the tyres if the bike braked hard and skidded to a halt.
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They definitely are not fingernail scratches, IMO
 
  • #67
Ive left similar scratches on my ex-husband from trying to pry him off me....
 
  • #68
100% The statements to LE from the girls and MM2's boyfriend BEFORE the realized Barry was target #1 are important.

Something I was curious about is the girls were on their way home from this camping trip. They try calling their mom and get nothing back. Knowing the signal can be bad out where they are, why were they so worried when they couldn't reach her? I guess maybe Suzanne was so predictable, but then that really speaks to Suzanne then and how she likely would not run off. If the girls could always reach her any time day or night and suddenly couldn't, that would trigger the calls to have the Ritter's to check on her. But, again they were on their way home and they would see her soon. I just have this feeling the girls were worried because they KNEW.. not that they knew ahead of time, but I believe deep down when they couldn't get ahold of her, they thought their dad did something to her. I hope they really consider this before trial and know it's okay to love their dad and speak the truth if that is what they felt. Deep down I think they worried he could or would hurt her.

This is why:

"I'm just so sad and ----and I texted mom for Mother's Day and she still hasn't answered and I'm scared her and dad probably got in a big fight and I don't even know it just made me want to be gone even more because I don't want to be around them it hurts me and I know if ----is working I might have to be home a lot more and it'll probably be the worst summer of my life."

Sadly, she had every right to be fearful at that moment.
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  • #69
This case is driving me nuts! Unlike other cases, it's all presumptions. I don't see any proof he killed her at all. We don't know Barry. Her friend SO, must be questioning Suzanne credibility after finding out she had an affair. His daughters know him the best and they do not think he killed her. They certainly know more than we do. Did LE look at anyone else or any other scenarios?
My husband and I have in our circle of friends several trial attorneys who have familiarized themselves with this case. They know and respect E&N but they see the case as a slam dunk for conviction, so long as the prosecution focuses on the core case and doesn't chase all the White Rabbits the defense will set loose.
 
  • #70
MOO psych name calling is just someone trying to oraganize their thoughts.
"Why is my spouse acting this way? Am I at fault etc." Was probably SMs first thought pattern.
MOO
Her trying to figure out BM while he is moving toward a solution of getting rid of her, is going to be a sad situation of a wife not suspecting how selfish her spouse really is.

She even says several times, I have done my share too. She takes blame and admits she isn't perfect. OF course we all have faults of our own in relationships. I really see an internal struggle in her messages.

I can relate to her in trying to figure someone else out. It is difficult when someone doesn't think like we do. We try to process their actions through our own filter of how we would behave and when things don't add up we have to try hard to view their actions through their filter. He's a hunter, a man's man, probably not a feely type person. He said men need sex. Well several times he referenced that. We can see through his own statements that is isn't an emotional person, he is very black and white and (my opinions here only) very cold and matter of fact. He wants to do what he wants to do. He earns the money and see's her as the wife and maybe like she should just do what he wants then. I think after cancer she really started to realize who she was outside of being his wife. He didn't like it. He doesn't seem like the type to easily change or adapt to a wife that is changing. Again just my views on how I see him. His success as a man is on being successful in his job and I think part of that is having the marriage and the wife with a certain image. That was shifting and he was losing control of that. He just couldn't see that she needed more from him than his money and sex.
 
  • #71
This is why: "I'm just so sad and ----and I texted mom for Mother's Day and she still hasn't answered and I'm scared her and dad probably got in a big fight and I don't even know it just made me want to be gone even more because I don't want to be around them it hurts me and I know if ----is working I might have to be home a lot more and it'll probably be the worst summer of my life."
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This sounds to me like the girls didn't know Barry was working on Mother's Day. This really is telling that the tension in that house was at an all time high for her girls to not even want to be there because of it. :(
 
  • #72
I believe he was arrested in haste and who cares if he was thinking about moving out of state. He can still be arrested. My thinking at that time was they arrested him too soon, should have waited to build their case. Now I’m concerned what we have seen so far is what they have. I believe BM is going to walk. IMO

He wasn't moving out of state. He had sold all of his US properties and was not buying more. Barry was about to run.
 
  • #73
He wasn't moving out of state. He had sold all of his US properties and was not buying more. Barry was about to run.

and if he became a fugitive the nice boys and girls of the USMS would snatch him up. IMO
 
  • #74
My husband and I have in our circle of friends several trial attorneys who have familiarized themselves with this case. They know and respect E&N but they see the case as a slam dunk for conviction, so long as the prosecution focuses on the core case and doesn't chase all the White Rabbits the defense will set loose.
That's why I don't understand how anyone can possibly be on the fence, much less believe in his innocence.

One man had the motive, means, and opportunity.

One man lied to investigators over and over.

One man had a ridiculous alibi.

One man lied about that alibi.

One man pulled a Fotis Dulos and visited multiple trash receptacles.

One man can be put at both the helmet location, and (near at least) the bike location.

One man was present when Suzanne's footprint ceased.

One man was present when her phone went dark.

And on and on and on.

Once again, this is what the judge had to say:

Judge said finding out that #SuzanneMorphew was having an affair gives him motive. Feeling of hurt, anger, jealousy, and desperation. It could lead someone who is typically normal to act differently like harm someone who has harmed him.

Judge said the "I'm done" text means that she was done with the marriage and the "Let's just do this civilly," meaning dissolution of marriage. The text to Jeff Libler said that "these next few days are going to be rough" shows that #SuzanneMorphew wanted out of the marriage.

The judge is going over the evidence. Speaking about the doorframe photo that showed force entry. Text messages saying #SuzanneMorphew didn't feel safe alone with #BarryMorphew and said he was unstable. Showing that Morphew was capable of harming Suzanne.

Morning of May 10: several activities from #BarryMorphew truck with door opening and closing before 4 a.m. From 3:58-4:07 a.m. Truck moved toward the highway where #SuzanneMorphew was found. The judge is saying this evidence is relevant to the prosecution.

The judge is talking about the reason why #BarryMorphew would be in that area where #SuzanneMorphew bike helmet was found. His reasoning antlers and seeing a bull elk. "Court can confirm that Morphew disposed of the helmet. He had no legitimate reason to be in that area."

JUDGE: "Why did someone who calls their wife his angel, Why would you leave her alone? Why would you drive to Broomfield, where you know you can’t work? Why would you sit in a hotel room for five hours? Something happened to alter those plans.

The court believes that it was because something happened to Ms. Morphew. The judge said the court is in favor of the People for counts 1 and 2: First-degree murder and tampering with a deceased body. #BarryMorphew

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  • #75
I think if they really felt they didn't have enough, they would do just this. We have to trust that they have more that isn't out there yet. The vehicle data for Suzanne's vehicle wasn't back yet at the time of the writing of the AA. Something else was also still pending I can't recall what it is now offhand. No doubt they have been continuing to investigate since last May and might have further evidence back. They have had plenty of time to build a case. We don't know what their angle really is because what is presented at the probably cause hearing is just what they feel they need to present to get held over for trial. They don't have to show all their cards of how they will go about presenting things at the trial. I still have faith in them and think moving forward is likely to get a conviction.
I absolutely agree. It's coming up on a year since the AA was filed. Of course, they have continued to investigate further details, received more incoming data not available at that time, and who knows what else? Don't forget MG and JP will definitely have a story to tell.

Perhaps the State may appear lacking in an effort to keep BARE's defense duo from knowing their real trial strategy. I think another poster pointed out the E&N have been compared to 'tornadoes'. While I do believe they can come in strong and do some damage, they can also blow out in a whimper. Berating and discrediting every witness only gets them so far, BARE's recorded words speak for themselves.

I also expect there to be some undisclosed in PH information coming forth and certainly more expert testimony provided on BARE's truck telematics and phone history, the partial DNA, and the 'smoking tranquilizer gun' theory.

I remain convinced that a jury of 12 peers, when shown the totality of the evidence against BARE (largely his own words and actions) and lack of evidence pointing to abduction or a Gone Girl, will lead them to find him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

MOO
 
  • #76
Ive left similar scratches on my ex-husband from trying to pry him off me....
Yes, they would be different than a glancing 'scrape'. I hadn't thought of that, thank you!
 
  • #77
He wasn't moving out of state. He had sold all of his US properties and was not buying more. Barry was about to run.
If the prosecution can prove that BM attempted to flee the jurisdiction in order to avoid or delay arrest, it may be relevant to show his consciousness of guilt. The defense would seek to exclude it, arguing that the probative value is outweighed by the prejudicial effect.
 
  • #78
I am very interested to hear from attorneys how the hearsay rule applies (or not) to all of the out-of-court statements by SM and BM. I generally see SM's statements coming in not to prove the truth of their contents (i.e. BM threatened suicide) but to establish her state of mind (she was scared, she wanted out of the marriage).

But could some of these statements come in as evidence that what she said was true? Will we see a motion to exclude at least some of these statements as inadmissible hearsay?

Is that what E&N are setting up by hammering on SM's lies to conceal her affair from her friends and family? That what she said in her written messages to them is too unreliable and prejudicial to be admitted in evidence?
 
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  • #80
We do know that MM2 suggested that Suzanne get a restraining order. For what reason would she say that?
I have to wonder about a 16 year old making that statement. Probably heard it from a friend whose parents were going through an acrimonious divorce.
 
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