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Can someone please point me to the truck and phone telematics? Or do we have those? I've seen the Bobcat ones but I can't seem to find these anywhere.
Yes, it is a bathroom. I cannot locate it now, but I remember a photo from the listing before the Morphew's owned the home. The photo was taken from inside the master bedroom looking through the door into the hall and captured part of a bathroom there. It looked larger than a powder room as it had a tub/shower combo.I'm stymied by the door across from the bonus room. I'm calling it a coat closet but from the front, it looks like it might have a window? But also from the front, I don't see a jut behind which a coat closet or half bath could sit.
No half baths in the listing however so there's only one bathroom on the main level? Guests are SOL?
Oooop, there IS a half bath. That's got to be it there, across from the bonus room.
Based on my maths, the fact that it looks like it can only be 12 inches deep notwithstanding.
JMO
Can someone please point me to the truck and phone telematics? Or do we have those? I've seen the Bobcat ones but I can't seem to find these anywhere.
I wonder if his old place is now overrun by chipmunks?I wonder if the place where Barry's living has a chipmunk problem.
I've been looking over the write-up in the AA about the trash dumps and attempting to do some speculative analysis – why dump there, why in that order relative to other things happening, and what was he dumping. That analysis suggests some possibilities and raises some questions. What he was doing was very odd for a guy in his claimed circumstances.
First thing I noticed: All those trash dump sites are relatively close to each other. Three are on the perimeter of the Flatiron Crossing shopping area of Broomfield and the other two (at the hotel) are only 1.3 miles away from that. The tight cluster of spots reminds me of Fotis Dulos and his Albany Ave evidence-dumping run with girlfriend, Michelle Troconis on the day Dulos’ estranged wife disappeared. But FD didn't dump anything at the very spot where he was staying.
That made me wonder: Were the items dumped by BM at the HIE "red herrings?" "Police checking out my alibi will see me on camera dumping things here, check THOSE items out and find nothing relevant to SM's disappearance but it will never occur to them to check anywhere else?" So, he perhaps truly did dump ordinary work-related stuff and/or old worn-out clothing and footwear at the hotel site? And saved the other dump sites for crime-related disposal (and/or drop-off/retrievals and/or private rendezvous if anyone else was involved).
It is notable BM made one known trash dump (the one at the transit stop) BEFORE driving to HIE. So obviously, he didn’t want whatever he dropped there to be in any way associated with him at HIE. That makes me wonder if he feared LE might be able to track the location or movements of whatever that/those item(s) were and he did not want any such tracking anywhere near HIE. So, SM's phone? SIM card? A burner phone? An electronic device (iPad, Tablet, Kindle, iPod, Alexa, tiny surveillance cameras with Bluetooth or wireless capability)?
Still, this is confusing because even if it is not at HIE where BM stayed, it's pretty darn close. Maybe it was something suggestive of a crime – a bloody knife or tool – but not necessarily traceable to SM or him and he thought if he dropped it there it would never be associated with SM’s disappearance or with him, that being a spot where so many members of the public drop things and where the contents of that garbage bin are combined with the contents of so many other transit bins before going to the landfill.
BM made two trash dumps AFTER he'd spent about an hour and a half in the room at HIE. He'd taken bags and armfuls of stuff into the room and then come back out with it about an hour and a half later. It seems obvious he wanted to process that stuff in some way – cleaning, sorting, removing identifying marks or labels - before making dump runs #3 (McDonald's) and #4 (Men's Wearhouse, hereafter MW).
BM spent 31 minutes at the MW stop, arriving about a quarter to 11:00 and leaving about a quarter after 11:00. Was he there to meet someone at 11:00? Besides the long span of time straddled around the hour of 11:00 am, there are other notable things about that stop:
- As mentioned, BM had likely processed items in some way in his room before making the stop. He took bags of items and loose items in his room, spent an hour and a half there, and took bags back out.
- It is almost literally a block away from the McDonald's where BM made a couple drops and used his arms to push whatever he’d dropped deeper into the bin. Why in the world those two stops so close to each other? What couldn’t wait until the MW stop just minutes later and so close by? As with the transit stop, were these items BM feared might be electronically trackable?
- There were 7 door openings/closings while he was at MW.
- He showed up at HIE with that black binder of loose, unorganized papers AFTER the MW dump run. So, was MW a rendezvous point? Did he meet someone there and get that collection of paperwork then? If so, did he make an exchange - receive papers from them and then gave them some physical evidence for concealment or disposal? Alternatively, had someone dropped something there earlier and BM stopped to pick it up?
- There was a midday change in plans immediately after that stop; BM called MG and asked her to recruit JP and bring him with her. (JP said he'd never worked for BM before and he called BM to confirm after MG asked him. Did BM employ JP because he did not want JP at DSI on Monday if LE came calling? Remember, JP had been at DSI when BM showed up to have his blade changed.)
NOTE: I can't help wondering if something did not go according to plan and BM discovered or learned about it while at MW and became a bit panicked just before that phone call to MG. What might have gone wrong? ... some evidence was left behind or lost along the way; after taking it with him, BM could not find SM's phone or something else that was critical; if someone was impersonating SM to gain access to SM's lockbox or safe deposit box or private mailbox and that is where the loose papers came from, was that person seen by a witness who might be suspicious of her accessing SM's box?
- MG told LE that during that call BM was out of breath and sounded like he'd had the worst night ever.
Is it possible the supposed report to LE about a strange car in the vicinity of Puma Path was a fabrication intended to cover for left-behind evidence or a witness seeing someone other than SM accessing SM’s private box? Wasn’t that report made by relatives or associates of a now-BM-related party?
I had a strong reaction to this texting mom for breakfast given SM's BR was the only one located on the first level -- steps away from the kitchen. It never occurred to me she could have been sleeping upstairs on that date. Thanks for pointing that out.I wish we knew the date on this. If the master bedroom is downstairs, this makes it seem more like SM may have been sleeping upstairs to me. Our house is two story and we do text each other but only if the other party is on a different floor.
Must have been the PH. I don’t remember any tweets so maybe it was on an LS YouTube recap?
What I remember is MM2 text to SM saying Dad made biscuits and then SM replied like an hour later saying Just Woke up. When in fact she had been texting with JL at the time.
Must have been Defense bringing this up. JMO
I believe BM's movement/trash runs in Broomfield were revealed by his Phone. Relative to Men's Warehouse, I wonder if the extended stay at this location is related to the car wash. I don't recall any (surveillance) photos of BM at the carwash and wonder if this part of BM's timeline was identified to LE by BM himself. (I believe the carwash located across the road from MW)??Good analysis so far, good questions!
Was the HIE dump last?
I believe he thought there were no cameras on the trash side of HIE.
The MW stop is the oddest.
Perhaps he was on the phone. A different phone. Getting breathless.
I don't understand his logic and want to stay far away from inside-his-head, but I suspect maybe he thought his back and forth trips would look memorable to HIE staff. Did he announce each time that he was heading to his big job? (Did he leave through the front door or sidle out the side door?)
You'd think he'd want to unload the most damning materials first. Bigger stuff? Smaller stuff?
How did he have it concealed in his vehicle? Passenger seat? Passenger seat and truck bed?
Was it mostly small loads? Besides the pot.
Clothes, like he copped to. Tranq materials. Cameras? The boots.
I'm just trying to get a handle on just how much he had to dump.
I wonder if he's keeping the charade alive. Because, you know, he's always done it. Throws things away. 100%. His whole life.
He didn't do any meaningful work so it appears he drove three hours to throw things away.
Alibi schmalibi.
JMO
Or instead:SEX. moo
I did not know until tonight that a person could search their Google history using history.google.com/history.
Doing that I found more pics of the Morphew house that I had looked at back in early 2021. I am still searching for the other listing I had looked at in 2020 but haven't found it yet.
But 7.72 acres in Chaffee County, Colorado has a picture of the door in the office area that we knew had to exist. And a few other angles that help decipher the layout of the house.
I also used the wayback machine and found some of the photos that were posted when Barry first listed the house last year. And this one shows the door also.
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He says he grilled a steak. I can't even with the steak. If he really went outside and grilled a steak while his wife is dead somewhere in the house ... is there a level of human disconnect past psychopathy?
I've been going over the list of things we know Barry did in the house and the things we know he had to have done in order for him to not be arrested on sight.
He had to get that spy camera from where ever it was hidden.
He burned her journal and some amount of paperwork in the fireplace. It's May in Colorado so I doubt there was an actual fire going so he had to either make a small one of the things he was burning or sit there with a lighter relighting the journal over and over. Either way, it's gonna take some time to collect any paper trail in the house (he still missed the spy camera booklet in the bathroom) and make sure it's ash.
It's not easy to see, but there is a pile of ash behind the fireplace screen. You have to watch the gray in the fireplace with the video on 1/4 speed, but there's a lot of ash in the fireplace.
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He showered and put his shorts in the laundry with MM1s sheets. He ran the washer and roughly 30 minutes later he would have needed to move them to the dryer. The showered is an assumption on my part but Barry is real twitchy about his showers on the 10th so thinking he was obsessively clean on the 9th falls in line.
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He says he grilled a steak. I can't even with the steak. If he really went outside and grilled a steak while his wife is dead somewhere in the house ... is there a level of human disconnect past psychopathy? It's bad enough that we know he decided to sit down and have a meal because he left the single plate in the dishwasher. Did he perhaps cook his steak over Suzanne's journal?
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I've been looking over the write-up in the AA about the trash dumps and attempting to do some speculative analysis – why dump there, why in that order relative to other things happening, and what was he dumping. That analysis suggests some possibilities and raises some questions. What he was doing was very odd for a guy in his claimed circumstances.
First thing I noticed: All those trash dump sites are relatively close to each other. Three are on the perimeter of the Flatiron Crossing shopping area of Broomfield and the other two (at the hotel) are only 1.3 miles away from that. The tight cluster of spots reminds me of Fotis Dulos and his Albany Ave evidence-dumping run with girlfriend, Michelle Troconis on the day Dulos’ estranged wife disappeared. But FD didn't dump anything at the very spot where he was staying.
That made me wonder: Were the items dumped by BM at the HIE "red herrings?" "Police checking out my alibi will see me on camera dumping things here, check THOSE items out and find nothing relevant to SM's disappearance but it will never occur to them to check anywhere else?" So, he perhaps truly did dump ordinary work-related stuff and/or old worn-out clothing and footwear at the hotel site? And saved the other dump sites for crime-related disposal (and/or drop-off/retrievals and/or private rendezvous if anyone else was involved).
It is notable BM made one known trash dump (the one at the transit stop) BEFORE driving to HIE. So obviously, he didn’t want whatever he dropped there to be in any way associated with him at HIE. That makes me wonder if he feared LE might be able to track the location or movements of whatever that/those item(s) were and he did not want any such tracking anywhere near HIE. So, SM's phone? SIM card? A burner phone? An electronic device (iPad, Tablet, Kindle, iPod, Alexa, tiny surveillance cameras with Bluetooth or wireless capability)?
Still, this is confusing because even if it is not at HIE where BM stayed, it's pretty darn close. Maybe it was something suggestive of a crime – a bloody knife or tool – but not necessarily traceable to SM or him and he thought if he dropped it there it would never be associated with SM’s disappearance or with him, that being a spot where so many members of the public drop things and where the contents of that garbage bin are combined with the contents of so many other transit bins before going to the landfill.
BM made two trash dumps AFTER he'd spent about an hour and a half in the room at HIE. He'd taken bags and armfuls of stuff into the room and then come back out with it about an hour and a half later. It seems obvious he wanted to process that stuff in some way – cleaning, sorting, removing identifying marks or labels - before making dump runs #3 (McDonald's) and #4 (Men's Wearhouse, hereafter MW).
BM spent 31 minutes at the MW stop, arriving about a quarter to 11:00 and leaving about a quarter after 11:00. Was he there to meet someone at 11:00? Besides the long span of time straddled around the hour of 11:00 am, there are other notable things about that stop:
- As mentioned, BM had likely processed items in some way in his room before making the stop. He took bags of items and loose items in his room, spent an hour and a half there, and took bags back out.
- It is almost literally a block away from the McDonald's where BM made a couple drops and used his arms to push whatever he’d dropped deeper into the bin. Why in the world those two stops so close to each other? What couldn’t wait until the MW stop just minutes later and so close by? As with the transit stop, were these items BM feared might be electronically trackable?
- There were 7 door openings/closings while he was at MW.
- He showed up at HIE with that black binder of loose, unorganized papers AFTER the MW dump run. So, was MW a rendezvous point? Did he meet someone there and get that collection of paperwork then? If so, did he make an exchange - receive papers from them and then gave them some physical evidence for concealment or disposal? Alternatively, had someone dropped something there earlier and BM stopped to pick it up?
- There was a midday change in plans immediately after that stop; BM called MG and asked her to recruit JP and bring him with her. (JP said he'd never worked for BM before and he called BM to confirm after MG asked him. Did BM employ JP because he did not want JP at DSI on Monday if LE came calling? Remember, JP had been at DSI when BM showed up to have his blade changed.)
NOTE: I can't help wondering if something did not go according to plan and BM discovered or learned about it while at MW and became a bit panicked just before that phone call to MG. What might have gone wrong? ... some evidence was left behind or lost along the way; after taking it with him, BM could not find SM's phone or something else that was critical; if someone was impersonating SM to gain access to SM's lockbox or safe deposit box or private mailbox and that is where the loose papers came from, was that person seen by a witness who might be suspicious of her accessing SM's box?
- MG told LE that during that call BM was out of breath and sounded like he'd had the worst night ever.
Is it possible the supposed report to LE about a strange car in the vicinity of Puma Path was a fabrication intended to cover for left-behind evidence or a witness seeing someone other than SM accessing SM’s private box? Wasn’t that report made by relatives or associates of a now-BM-related party?
Occurs to me mom slept with the door locked, and it was a known. As @Megnut says she does sheets when guest leave, not when they are arriving. Perhaps Barry was the permanent upstairs guest when he was around.I had a strong reaction to this texting mom for breakfast given SM's BR was the only one located on the first level -- steps away from the kitchen. It never occurred to me she could have been sleeping upstairs on that date. Thanks for pointing that out.
I've also spent a lot of time researching this mainly because I can't find the source citing MG as wondering why the daughter did not take her device on the road trip, alleging she saw it paired in BM's truck. (I'm patiently waiting for one of our absent WS members that initially posted this entry to join us again).
I'm fairly confident that the second device cited in the AA as associated with BM's iPhone with an SMS [text] at 3:43 PM on 5/8/20 is another Apple device capable of SMS [texting] which could be an iPhone, iPad, iPod, Apple Watch, or MAC.
You can only have one User ID per Apple device by design (single users only). However, the User ID noted as being separate from the Primary User ID (i.e., Apple ID) could mean the primary email associated with the Apple ID /iCloud is different than the email for App Store/iTunes.
In the AA, I think it's clear that LE knows the phone number associated with that second device (it's redacted).
We also know that SM intentionally separated her Apple electronics from the family, and at a minimum -- NOT sharing the same iCloud but I also think that SM probably wanted MM2's phone associated with one of the adult accounts where MM2 could also have her own User ID for the App Store/iTunes. On the other hand, I could definitely see BM and MM1 sharing App Store/iTunes which would also appear as a separate device from the Primary User ID (primary email different) but still associated with BM's iPhone.
There are actually some very specific instructions at Apple support to unlink your phone/device from another phone including how to tell if your phone is linked to another phone/device, and delete devices connected to your Apple ID.
I think I hate this stuff...![]()
..... and BM of all males hires a Jeff for his business dealings on Mother's Day - what a coincidence!Maybe Suzanne realised that Barry was on to "Jeff", so tried to muddy the waters by befriending some more Jeffs?